exl124

What do you think? Should Acura bring back the CL in the car line up? I am not a huge fan of the current TL model so I would like to see a different look to it. I saw the new NSX shape and maybe the new CL could be somewhat simalar to the new NSX...anyone hear of any plans for a sport coupe for Acura coming soon besides the NSX? I would hope that it would be a luxury coupe and not the rebirth of the RSX, not that I am not a fan of the RSX, but I am not getting any younger and want more refinement now a days.

richardparker

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They should bring it back but , as more geared toward more sports than luxury.
And friendly for tunners,witch I'm sure will never happen.
since they don't want people killing their cars.

Because in all honesty if someone was wanting a luxury car they would most likey go after a 4 door.
A OEM supercharged v6 would be great to see.

gnuts

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They should offer something like a TSX coupe (with different styling). 4cyl or optional turbo...like the RDX setup or a V6. And it should have SH-AWD.

The 4 banger would appease the fuel efficient crowd that want a nice commuter that's good on gas. Then you have the optional turbo or v6 for the sporty crowd. That seems like a smart move.

exl124

I hear you on the 4 cyl part. Infiniti has done something simalar by offering a smaller G25. But I would def go for a V6...possibly turbo or supercharged. Its got to have close to the BMW 335 output...I would say min of 330hp. And how about RWD??? SH-AWD is awesome too. the list could go on and on....

exl124

BTW...I bought the CL to replace my Honda S2000...I had an 2003 model year. Could anyone tell me why my S2000 trans felt so much smoother than the CL of the same model year? It is litterally night and day difference. Why did they have to try and re-invent the wheel on the CL 6MT and not just pull the S2000 trans over? And I just recently did a trans fluid flush on my 6MT.

azeezp13

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Oh hell yeah! If not for the autotragic tranny the CL might still be alive today. It should basically be a coupe version of the TL, with some slight body changes just like how it was back then. Give it the SH-AWD platform on the J37 and it MUST have a manual transmission, it'd be a huge hit. Something to directly compete with the G37 coupe/sedan as well as the Genesis coupe/sedan. Lol, can't believe I'm using a Hyundai product as a benchmark... how times have changed.

azeezp13

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Also since the s2000 is now also gone, they should bring back the Integra aka the RSX, but under a Honda badge. This time make it RWD. Either that or bring back the Prelude in a RWD platform.

civicdrivr

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They need a coupe to go head to head with the G37. I dont see it happening within the next 4 years though. The TL is being redesigned next year as a 2014 model. If they do bring back a coupe, I expect it to be based on that.

TheWeez

Lot of day dreamers in here. The CL didn't sell overly well for Acura and was a bit of a bastard child. They aren't a performance auto maker. I don't see another CL coming. Hell the CL isn't even a fast or even very sporty car as much as we want to think it is. It's a heavy pig with FWD.

eneffex

I think a 9th gen accord coupe platform wilds be most feasible, the 3.5 with awd would be nice

zeta

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Maybe some sh*t hot designer at Acura will cannibalize/improve upon the Accord Coupe Concept platform and surprise us all. I'm going to need a coupe in the next 60 months or so. hehe

http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows..._12.html#photo

civicdrivr

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The 9th gen Accord coupe is just a carry-over of the 8th gen, and the platform wont support AWD.

CLsuperhero

^ The exhaust on the concept looks very much like a current TL.. The intake manifold again looks like some sort 09+ TL.

It can't be a new TL it's too early. It might be turned into the new RSX or TSX. I'm leaning towards RSX because it went out a while back and is still popular.

brian6speed

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The s2000 is a sports car. The CL was entry level luxury car. The CL has a clutch damper, check valve in the slave cylinder etc. that can be removed, along with shifter bushings and a ss.

I agree that the cl/tl in fwd is a heavy pig in stock form, but remove the weight and it can definately be considered sporty(6spd with lsd)(sub 3000 lb and ~300 hp). Honda/Acura made the nsx, s2000, integra type r etc. They are also heavily involved in motorsports. There are several racing series where civics, tsx etc are very competitive. I wouldn't say they aren't a performance automaker, they just stopped making cars that didn't sell well, and cost more to make then they sold for( coupes and sports cars). They make cars Americans want to buy (sedans and suv's).

I don't really see a coupe as a great idea in our market, unless you mean a 4 door coupe like mercedes cls. 2 doors and four seats just dsn't work unless you plan on never using the rear seat or just use it for kids.

The NSX was pricey to make and didn't sell well, the s2000 cost more to make then it sold for, cl didn't sell or do well image wise. Hopefully the new nsx does better. These reasons are what makes the nsx and s2000 appealing to me tho, just not smart from business standpoint.

civicdrivr

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FWD - Cables connecting the shifter to the transmission

RWD - Shifter connected directly to the transmission.

fuzzy02CLS

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They have a coupe in the accord. No reason to brand another poor selling coupe.
Yeah & try to launch it without wheel hop, or having to upgrade components to handle it. Like axles, bushings engine mounts. The 6MT CLS is a bitch to launch on a track.

p.diddy

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i wouldnt hold my breath on acura bringing the CL back anytime soon. that ship has sailed. i still have to see it on the road to really believe their bringing the nsx back.

super bowl commercial for the new nsx.

richardparker

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Funny shit.
Any specs on the new nsx ?
it sounded like a v8

gnuts

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supposed to be a 3.5-3.8L NA V6.

exl124

I would like to think that Honda/Acura is not going to keep a sport coupe out of their line up forever...right now, the closest thing they got to that is the Accord coupe and Civic Si. Its wishful thinking that they might bring the CL back....more likely if they bring back anything, they may bring back the RSX in a more econo-box to compete against the new Subi and Scion hitting the market.

But damn....could you imagine a poor man's version of the NSX??? S3000???

StreetKA

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keep dreaming guys.

Yumcha

No brainer question: Absolutely.

Sadly, no hints of one coming in anytime soon.

civicdrivr

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Mid mounted V6 driving the rear wheels, one electric motor for each front wheel, 7 speed DCT.

CLassy02

How bout they just build us all some nice, properly working transmissions? I'd prefer that to a new model.

civicdrivr

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How else would they get people into the dealers? They just wait for another tranny to blow and try to "upgrade" them to a beaked whale.

zeta

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No joy in this thread. I guess I'm going to have to keep this fat pig awhile longer. With that said, at least it's not a GSP.

typeR

id say an acoord coupe V6 sh AWD would do

g1underground

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I don't keep up as much as I used to but what's the thinking in Japan with Honda/Acura models? Do they sell the same type/styles as Americans or have the same SUV/seden/gas sippers thinkers there? I remember Japan had a pretty good high performance program before with most of their cars.

civicdrivr

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Eh, they dont offer a whole lot in the performance category over there anymore. I think the only performance car is the Civic Type R, which many say has gotten softer over the years and can't compete. Other then that, they dont have much.

They have the CR-Z and the Euro Accord (TSX), but.....yea...no.

CLassy02

Ain't that the truth lol

Blkout19

I think if they made an 07 Cl-S 6/M 300hp be golden lol

exl124

I recall reading an article about Acura releasing a cool looking concept car that will be simalar to the CL. I can't find the article anymore but at least we know they are thinking about it...

Picture of what it could look like....
http://www.speedflux.com/wp-content/..._new_coupe.jpg

civicdrivr

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There were rumors about a coupe joining the lineup last year I believe. It hasnt come to fruition nor has any other rumors surfaced.

Theyve got quite a lot of new cars coming in the next 3 years. The ILX will be released as well as the NSX, the TL gets a redesign for the 2014 model year, and the RL is getting a redesign as well. The RDX gets a slight redesign this year and the MDX is due in the next two years as well. I dont expect them to squeeze a coupe in there within the next three years.

richardparker

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The new nsx should be the new cl.
The new nsx should look more like a super car.

I can't wait till the chaps on top gear can get ahold of one.
And the stig puts it threw it's paces.

exl124

I think the harsh reality of it is they took a stab at creating a new coupe and tried to please everyone with the ZDX....tried to make a family car look like a coupe with intentions of keeping up with the BMW X6. I am not so sure they were successful.

civicdrivr

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They werent. The ZDX is useless and I can count on one hand the amount of ZDXs Ive seen on the road since it was released. The majority of them had dealer plates.

azeezp13

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The ILX is the worst idea ever. Judging by the info they've given so far, it's no different than the CSX we get in Canada! Which is basically a dressed up Civic with leather and Acura's tech packages. LAME! Bring back the CL, or call it a TL coupe. Acura should leave the 4 bangers to Honda and focus on Luxury and Performance.

clpassenubye

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Yeah your right I was talking to my friend who sales cars for Acura and he said the sales numbers on the ZDX are horrible.

civicdrivr

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The ILX isn't like the CSX. The CSX looked a lot like the Civic. The ILX shares very few body parts. The interior is very different as well.









Rumor has it the next gen TL is going to be shrink, and the TSX is going to be dropped from the lineup.

clpassenubye

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I would love Acura to bring back a more refined CL but I know that it won't happen. If Acura didn't bring back cars as successful as the Legend or Integra then they definitely won't bring back the CL which wasn't nearly as successful.

That being said they definitely need an affordable sports coupe (better than the RSX style) but who knows when and if that will ever happen I know won't be holding my breathe.