Silver™

These are PIAA’s version of Polarg M-6 bulbs. They are also 18W and just barely fit. They are nearly identical to the stock headlights, since they are not true HID they are not perfect but 99% identical to stock and much brighter than the PIAA 19169 bulbs I had before.


“Our new Xtreme White Technology is the closest color yet to H.I.D. (High Intensity Discharge), without the cost. Brilliant in color and radical in technical performance, these bulbs elevate your car's road profile to a new level no matter what you drive.

“Miniature incandesent Xtreme White bulbs.”



The PIAA 19224 are at 4150K
The PIAA 19169 are at 3950K




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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

[This message has been edited by SilverSoCal_CL-P (edited 05-08-2001).]

WiLd~CL~TYPS-@SS

Do you have these bulbs? from snook?

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01 silver cl-s
AEM CAI red
K&N air filter (Out)
Piaa 19169
Cannon winter floor mats
35% tint all around

Silver™

Yea, I just installed them tonight.

They came out last week and I could only wind them at autobulbdepot.com for $12.50 a pair.

SidVicious

Do you think they are a closer match than the Polargs?

I'd sure like to see a side by side comparison of the Polarg M6's and these new PIAA's. Anyone have any pics?



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Sid Vicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 NEW! |
1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust

Silver™

I never got the M-6's so I couldn't say. But they look great and they don't cause excessive heat, so I'm real happy.

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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

kensteele

I would try them out side by side vs. the M6 but my arm cannot take the abuse anymore (already switched from PIAAs to M6 once). I still have bruises from months ago.

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* 2001 Acura CL Type S * Blk/Blk * Navigator * Spoiler * Moonroof Visor * V1 *
* Since 3/31/2000 *
* Road Warrior *

SidVicious

There is a FAQ post that talks about taking the road lamps out. After you loosen the screw, you can release the lamp and pull the whole road lamp out very easily and have complete access to the bulbs. I did it this way and only had to use my fingers to push the release tab. All together it took me less than 10 minutes to do both sides.

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Sid Vicious
2001 CL Type S w/ NAV in Silver | Wheel Locks | Front Plate (Mounted in the Trunk) | Mobil 1 | Polarg M6 NEW! |
1992 Ford Ranger XLT in Silver | F-150 Springs | 3" Body Lift | K&N Filter | Flowmaster Exhaust

gto2050

How much are the PIAA's??

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior

Rod

Does anyone have the PIAA 19172s? These are the 5 watt Xtreme White wedge bulbs, I don't want to throw the 18 watt bulbs in yet until other people in hot weather have them on through the summer.

Scooter

sorry, guys, i came in late...r these bulbs for the road lamps on the bottom, or r they replacing the existing HID headlights?? if they're for the bottom road lamps, that would b awesome since i'm not real hot on the stock lamps and would love brighter ones.

Chris

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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

Accessories:
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Rod

Yeah, they're for replacing the road lamps so that they're brighter and a closer match to the headlights.

Scooter

now that is very cool...is it worth gettin your arms all busted up trying to replace the bulbs?? sounds like it to me


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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

Accessories:
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Rod

Those bulbs are easy to get to. The ones that were more of a pain in the ass were the turning signals, I didn't want to pull the inner fender out too much thinking it wouldn't flex right back into shape.

Scooter

i'm sorry for being so technical/anal, but i really wanna buy these bulbs, and i don't wanna mess it up, but the PIAA site classifies these X-Treme bulbs as turn signals, side marker lights, and parking lights. is it safe to assume these bulbs work as road lamps?? and with the wattage so high, will there be any fuse-blowing issues?? thanks for your patience, u guys.

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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

Accessories:
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Silver™

I may be wrong, but I believe that parking lights and road lamps are the same thing.

Also the PIAA web site says "Turn signals, side marker lights, and parking lights" even for the PIAA 19169 and 19173 which 1/3 of the people on this board have already used for months.

I never got the Polarg M-6 bulbs at first because they were 18W and our stock bulbs are 5W. But no one has reported problems with using an 18W bulb so I was sure that these would work. I mean PIAA is one of the highest quality light bulb manufacture out there. And like I said there was no excessive heat after being on for 20+ minutes.


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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

Silver™

And it looks great. The road lamps finally have a use

The 5W bulbs just don't cut it.

silverstreak01

hey SilverSoCal-CLP, do u have any pics of your car, i want to get springs and i was hoping i could see how they look on a fellow silver CL P. thanks

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17 Yr Old Owner of a Silver CL-P, w/ spoiler, wood trim kit, Silver painted mud guards, polarg M6, acura-cl.com sticker, aftermarket wood trim kit and new rims soon

Scooter

well, i'm happy to say i just ordered myself a pair through 2nd day air (i'm very impatient), so i'll keep my fingers crossed

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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

Accessories:
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Vector02

I just ordered a couple pair also...somebody needs to get some pics posted of the piaa's and the m6's side by side.

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Black Cl-S, Navi,
Chrome Avez 18"s
AEM CAI is on its way...
2 12" Flat Piston PPI Subs, MPS-2500 Pheonix Gold Amp, Clarion Cross-over, Spoiler, Mud gaurds

Silver™

No I haven't taken pictures of my car with the Eibach Pro-Kit installed. But a few CL-S members have posted pic of their cars with the Pro-Kit and it looks about the same.

Since the CL-P has softer springs I think the car gets a little lower than a CL-S with the same springs, but I have never seen them side by side so I couldn't say for sure. No more than 1/4 of an inch at most.



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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

marioman

I just purchased them too, I currently have the Polarg M6 I will put one Piaa and leave the Other Polarg M6 on the other side and take a picture tomorrow ( hopefully they will come in tomorrow..I got next day Air) Hopefully the picture will show the difference. As far as putting the 18W Bulb, I have had no problem in Burning the bulb or frying the wires, I don't drive that much at night because of daylight time. I have some pics of the Polarg M6 on my link..check it out if you are interested.

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Acura CL Type S
Silver W/ Navi
Spoiler
Piaa Solitare 001 Plasma Ion Yellow With Upgraded 55W Bulbs
Eibach Pro Kit
Tokico Illumina Shocks
AEM Cold Air Intake
Comptech Sway Bars
Polarg M6
Dual 10"Infinity Kappa Series
MTX Amp Audio Thunder 302
My Type S

Scooter

here's a spin:

i've been reading on the installation of new road lamps, and lemme ask u guys, how difficult was it?? u should b able to take apart/put back together the units without taking off the bumper, right?? and as for the wiring getting/not getting fried, the wiring was originally set for the capabilities of a 5W bulb, but the PIAA's are 18W, so it really shouldn't b about the wiring but about the bulb itself, right?? i mean, if the wiring is set for 5W, will u still get the maximum luminosity (if there is such a word) with an 18W bulb??

Chris

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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

Accessories:
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Vector02

Well, if you can get 18w out of the polargs, you have to be able to get it out of the Piaa's...depends on any fusable link inline with the roadlamps...etc...or any relays with fuses....

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Black Cl-S, Navi,
Chrome Avez 18"s
AEM CAI is on its way...
2 12" Flat Piston PPI Subs, MPS-2500 Pheonix Gold Amp, Clarion Cross-over, Spoiler, Mud gaurds
Clifford Avangaurd alarm w/ smart windows and remote start.

kensteele

Ok, it's all good: http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003790.html

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* 2001 Acura CL Type S * Blk/Blk * Navigator * Spoiler * Moonroof Visor * V1 *
* Since 3/31/2000 *
* Road Warrior *

Scooter

so does this mean one must tap into more power to get the 18W, or will the existing wire suffice?? since my automotive knowledge on wires is limited, the last thing i wanna do is start toying with tapping into other wiring to get the needed power to the new PIAA's.

Chris

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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

Accessories:
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Silver™

It took me 10 mins to put in the PIAA 19169 and it only took me 5 mins to get the bigger PIAA 19224 in. I did the old stick your hand under the bumber move, which is a lot more difficult now that my car is lower. There is also a way to screw out the entire lens assambly which I might recomend since these bulbs just barely fut through the hole. A few people have broken their Polarg M-6's trying to stick them in so be carefull.


and as for the wiring getting/not getting fried, the wiring was originally set for the capabilities of a 5W bulb, but the PIAA's are 18W, so it really shouldn't b about the wiring but about the bulb itself, right?? i mean, if the wiring is set for 5W, will u still get the maximum luminosity (if there is such a word) with an 18W bulb??


Take your lamp at home for exammple. You can put a 40W bulb or a 100W bulb in the same lamp (So long is it is rated as such). And since numerous people have had the 18W Polarg's in their cars for 6+ months I feel pretty safe with the PIAA's. And there is a considerable difference between 5W PIAA's and 18W PIAA's.



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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

Scooter

never thought of the wiring that way before with your analogy. now that makes a lot of sense. i guess the ultimate change is the amount of battery used to power the lights. thanks so much for the info!!

Chris


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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

Accessories:
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Silver™

Did you get them today?

I want to see them side by side.



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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

fbazakos

i just ordered them too ... they kill ya on the shipping ...

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Black 2001 Type S
*Eibach Pro-Kit (Waiting to be installed)
*Xephyr Cold Air Intake
*PIAA 19169 Road Lamps
*Rockford 500a2 [FOR SALE]
*Pioneer 12" @ 400w (x2) [FOR SALE]
*77237-SOK-A02
---Still 2 rims not scratched---

AirC

SilverSoCal_CL-P
Did you have to get a camber kit with your springs? I have the same springs on my car and i did allignment not too long ago, and these springs were already settled in...They said i majorly need a camber kit but those cost so much money... ANyone know if its necessary on the Prokit drop on the CL?

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01' CL 3.2 Premium.
Tan/Black
Neuspeed Strut Bar
Diamond Nicrome Limo Mirror Tint
Undetectable K40 w/t Diffuser
Kicker 12" Competition
Cleared Headlights
Custom Int/Ext Lights
Comptech Sway Bars
AEM CAI w/t Bypass Valve
Eibach Pro Kit
Denso Iridium Spark Plugs

JarodL

Where is everyone buying these bulbs from? Thanks,

Jarod

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2001 Cl Type S (Silver)
Comptech Headers
Comptech Exhaust
Comptech Air Filter
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Springs
Koni Shocks
20% LLumar Charcoal Tint

Silver™

Any springs you buy Eibach, Comptech, H&R, etc... will move you car out of alignment. The only way to fix it is the camber kit. I have had my springs for 6+ months and have noticed slightly faster tire wear, but not much. Without the Camber kit your car will never be within factory specs.

I will probably get a camber kit when I upgrade my tires, so I don't wear them out to fast.

So, I would recomend it, especially if you plan on getting better tires for your car. Which you should probably do.


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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

Silver™

I picked them up from autobulbdepot.com.

$12.50 + shipping.



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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

Vector02

Whats up with the pics??? waiting for it to get dark?? I wanna see them side by side.

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Black Cl-S, Navi,
Chrome Avez 18"s
AEM CAI is on its way...
2 12" Flat Piston PPI Subs, MPS-2500 Pheonix Gold Amp, Clarion Cross-over, Spoiler, Mud gaurds
Clifford Avangaurd alarm w/ smart windows and remote start.

SilverKnight

Yes, you can but you risk having your fuse blowed, relay fried, or even worse fire. But with 18W? I think the worst is some blown fuses and that's all.



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'01 Silver CL-S
Painted Mud Guard
Silver Aluminum Pedals
Kenwood Amp with 10in. Pioneer sub.
(modified) CAI.

My Car

Scooter

very happy tonight. got my PIAA 19224's today and took all of about 5 minutes max to install. so far, no short circuits or blown fuses (knock on wood). they look incredible, a little more blue than the Xenon purplish hue, but still better than stock almost yellow very pleased with this purchase, recommend to all, and thank u all who suggested them.

Chris


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Copyright 2001 ScooterKin Enterprises:

'01 CL Type-S: Red on Black

- PIAA 19224 road lamps
- mudguards
- moonroof visor
- fenderwell trim
- spoiler
- wheel locks
- the OLD cup holder
- ...last, but not least, the Xephyr CAI

Rod

Post pics!

NOLACLS

Are the new PIAA 19224 a better match to the head lights than the polarg m-6 or are they the same color??

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2001 CL-S White/Tan
non navi
* Spoiler
* Weel Locks
* Polarg m-6

Silver™

They look really close. I am waiting for someone to post some side by side pics with the M-6



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2001 Silver CL-P
PIAA 19224
Hiper 9005
Eibach Pro-Kit
Tinted

23wt

so are you saying that these piaa 19224 will not melt the housing? or it doesn't melt it as quickly as the M6's?