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Old 05-23-2003 | 10:46 AM
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Old 05-23-2003 | 10:48 AM
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Old 05-23-2003 | 10:50 AM
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At first glance it looks like a firebird, transam. Doesn't surprise me at all that all they are doing is taking the "edges" off and making more ugly...........not surpised at all.....Anyone read Japanese ?
Old 05-23-2003 | 10:51 AM
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Old 05-23-2003 | 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by Fabvsix
At first glance it looks like a firebird, transam. Doesn't surprise me at all that all they are doing is taking the "edges" off and making more ugly...........not surpised at all.....Anyone read Japanese ?

The current styling is hands down the top 5 sexiest implementations on the road. Not sure why they want to change
Old 05-23-2003 | 10:58 AM
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that thing is ugly.

im just gonna assume its another one of the 700 FALSE skectches shown recently
Old 05-23-2003 | 10:59 AM
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that thing is ugly.

im just gonna assume its another one of the 700 FALSE skectches shown recently
Yea, just a guess
Old 05-23-2003 | 11:02 AM
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330 hp isn't enuff unless it weighs 2700 pounds.
Old 05-23-2003 | 11:08 AM
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330 hp isn't enuff unless it weighs 2700 pounds.

Of course it is. It'll put the car into the low 13's/ high 12's and that's plenty. This is NOT a drag car.
Old 05-23-2003 | 11:09 AM
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Old 05-23-2003 | 11:16 AM
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Old 05-23-2003 | 11:54 AM
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make the NSX "more ugly" ? the nsx is too sexy for its own good.
Old 05-23-2003 | 11:55 AM
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for a 90k car, it should have 400 MINIMUM HP, regardless of what its meant for and not meant for. regardless of every other statistic, 400 should be a MINIMUM, anything less is a laughing stock. look at the MULTITUDE of high end cars now or soon to be released that have 400 + HP!!, not to mention, alot of them are right around that price, if not cheaper (Z06, Viper, new caddy CTS-V)

the NSX can no longer ride on its looks, semi-exotci status, handling statistics, reputation, build quality, etc.

the thing needs a major boost in HP and torque, at LEAAAAST 100 hp, even that would be less than 400. but if they come back with a 300-330 HP NSX, it will still be a joke.
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Old 05-23-2003 | 12:08 PM
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i challange anyone to name ONE THING that the NSX does better on ANY racetrack, any road course, any test, than a 50k Z06. im talking finish product in stock form vs finished product in stock form. i dont give a fuck that the NSX is hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah..im talking purely about performance. because THATS the only thing to consider when in the market for such a car. PERFORMANCE, and lets face it, at this point in time, the NSX is miles behind the competition.

i dont beleive that there is a single thing anyone can name or reference to.

that simple fact alone should be enough to light a HUUUGE fire under Honda's ass to get back in the game!!
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:12 PM
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i challange anyone to name ONE THING that the NSX does better on ANY racetrack, any road course, any test, than a 50k Z06. im talking finish product in stock form vs finished product in stock form. i dont give a fuck that the NSX is hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah..im talking purely about performance. because THATS the only thing to consider when in the market for such a car. PERFORMANCE, and lets face it, at this point in time, the NSX is miles behind the competition.

i dont beleive that there is a single thing anyone can name or reference to.

that simple fact alone should be enough to light a HUUUGE fire under Honda's ass to get back in the game!!

What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:20 PM
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What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?


Also, you are comparing a 12 year old chassis to a 4 year old one. The NSX WAS a technological marvel when it was new...I'm sure when the redesign is officially announced it will have a whole new set of marvels to offer.
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What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?
the nsx does not outhandle or outperform the Z06 in anyway. not in straighline performance, braking, slolomn, road courses, etc. and the Z06 can be had for significantly less money. additionally, a Z06 that costs 50k with an additional 30-40k in mods (to get it to equal the price of the NSX) would downright slaughter probably most every car ever built, period.

point being, for 90k, the NSX does not live up to its price.
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by jimcol711
...hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah...
You just named a few of the reasons for the price disparity. I know your point was about performance but there's more to the NSX than performance. just my two cents
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:32 PM
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on the track, on the streets, by the numbers, the fact that the NSX is handbuilt is 100% meaningless. being handbuilt doesnt help its performance whatsoever.
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by jimcol711
on the track, on the streets, by the numbers, the fact that the NSX is handbuilt is 100% meaningless. being handbuilt doesnt help its performance whatsoever.
Believe it or not performance is NOT the only factor people consider when they buy a car. When you buy a NSX you are getting an exotic car...not a me too Vette. The level of fit and finish is light years ahead in the NSX. I know better than to knock the Vette, my bro has a 2000 vert and it is a absolute blast to drive. The NSX is an all aluminum, 8000 redline, technology testbed. I guarentee you the NSX will turn more heads as well.

PS...I do think the NSX is overpriced...it should be about 20K cheaper.
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:49 PM
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NSX is overpriced... plain and simple. If I had $140K CDN to spend on a car id buy the CL/SL 55 in a heart beat.. offers the best of both worlds. performance and luxury... and has the mercedez name =)
However i do admit that NSXs are rare machines.. I see more porches than NSXs.. if you want to be unique the NSX is the way to go.
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what is the rating of a 1991 NSX? are they quick cars back then?
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:51 PM
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Jim, I think that you are missing the point of the NSX. You're right there are better performers but there is more to it than that. Get the Z06 if you just want performance!
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by jimcol711
the nsx does not outhandle or outperform the Z06 in anyway. not in straighline performance, braking, slolomn, road courses, etc. and the Z06 can be had for significantly less money. additionally, a Z06 that costs 50k with an additional 30-40k in mods (to get it to equal the price of the NSX) would downright slaughter probably most every car ever built, period.

point being, for 90k, the NSX does not live up to its price.
90k is very justifiable. Four things:

1- Midengine

2- aluminum body

3- hand built and balanced engine

4- aero tuning and high speed stability

The NSX is much better suited for road racing that the z06 will ever be in it's current form. MidEngine RWD will always hold an advantage over F-RWD.

Also, the NSX performs as well and better than the z06. Although straightup comparisons are limited, the World Challenge provides a pretty good inidicator and the NSX has dominated. SO if the NSX was that far behind it wouldn't able to compete.

z06 is awesome car but to the regular person on the street is just another corvette. You can see z06s on the street just about everyday.

You can not say the same about the NSX. 200 NSXs make it to US market every year. How many z06s are sold?
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by jucee187
NSX is overpriced... plain and simple. If I had $140K CDN to spend on a car id buy the CL/SL 55 in a heart beat.. offers the best of both worlds. performance and luxury... and has the mercedez name =)
However i do admit that NSXs are rare machines.. I see more porches than NSXs.. if you want to be unique the NSX is the way to go.

NSX would run circles around the CL/SL 55. You are comparing two completely different cars.
Old 05-23-2003 | 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by jimcol711
on the track, on the streets, by the numbers, the fact that the NSX is handbuilt is 100% meaningless. being handbuilt doesnt help its performance whatsoever.
You are incorrect.
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very true on the exclusivity of the NSX, i see at least 1-3 Z06 per week, id guess, i maybe see 1 NSX per month. to be perfectly honest, if i were looking for a 50k head-turner, a used NSX would be way up there on my list, but the performance is dissapointing to me.

as where the Z06 will knock your socks off but as you said, to the untrained eye, its just another C5 vette.
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Originally posted by jimcol711
very true on the exclusivity of the NSX, i see at least 1-3 Z06 per week, id guess, i maybe see 1 NSX per month. to be perfectly honest, if i were looking for a 50k head-turner, a used NSX would be way up there on my list, but the performance is dissapointing to me.

as where the Z06 will knock your socks off but as you said, to the untrained eye, its just another C5 vette.


Take both cars out on to the (road)track and I will bet you will perform better times in the NSX.
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Originally posted by jucee187
what is the rating of a 1991 NSX? are they quick cars back then?
Compare...

Vette for sale 13K

NSX for sale 31K

vs


Corvette:

OHV V8 5.7 245-405 HP 330-385 TQ

6-speed manual: 16/25

4-speed automatic: 16/24


NSX:

DOHC V6 3.0 252-270 HP 210 TQ

5-speed manual: 18/24

4-speed automatic: 18/24
Old 05-23-2003 | 01:07 PM
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I second that! That car doesn't need 400hp.
A vette is nice but nsx is just too sexy.
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blame the japanese economy for the inflated price.
It's not like its done well since ~1990.
Old 05-23-2003 | 01:17 PM
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Damn--even that old NSX still looks hot!

Don't put your Vette next to an NSX or else you'll never look at it the same way again.

The real question is, however, where is Acura going to go with the next NSX. I believe the answer to this question may represent where the company as a whole will be heading in the future.

If they build a conservative, mass produced NSX, we're all in big trouble when it comes to future Acuras and the level of passion they will instill.
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NSX would run circles around the CL/SL 55. You are comparing two completely different cars.
in a 1/4 mile race?.. i dont think so... in the curves.. maybe.. dont under estimate AMG benzes handling, im not comparing cars im comparing the price and what you can get.. spend a little more and you can get the CL600 or S600 V12 TT.. all these 4000LB+ cars runs 12s stock. lets see an NSX do that..

is 49K canadian a good price for a 1991 NSX? in todays rates that is approx 35K US does anyone know the performance specs? 0-60 and 1/4 times?
Old 05-23-2003 | 03:35 PM
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in a 1/4 mile race?.. i dont think so... in the curves.. maybe.. dont under estimate AMG benzes handling, im not comparing cars im comparing the price and what you can get.. spend a little more and you can get the CL600 or S600 V12 TT.. all these 4000LB+ cars runs 12s stock. lets see an NSX do that..

is 49K canadian a good price for a 1991 NSX? in todays rates that is approx 35K US does anyone know the performance specs? 0-60 and 1/4 times?
again if you want straightline speed, i can spend 10k on a car blow an SL55 out of the water.

4000lb might accelerate well but it will not handle and stop as well as a 3153lb midengine i can tell you that without a doubt.

Take both cars to laguna seca and see which does better.
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ahh the infamous corkscrew.. I hate that turn when playing GT3.. haha. .but my F1 vehicle handles it very well.
Old 05-23-2003 | 03:58 PM
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ahh the infamous corkscrew.. I hate that turn when playing GT3.. haha. .but my F1 vehicle handles it very well.

YUP! ugh, you gotta brake hard before you hit the crest of the hill so you can turn.
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YUP! ugh, you gotta brake hard before you hit the crest of the hill so you can turn.
fuking hated that S test with the viper in Laguna Seca...its the most beautiful track though...luv taking the cl out there, and checking it out in the replay
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A Z06 will beat a NSX is the quarter mile race.
A Z06 will beat a NSX on a road course.

Let's just all agree that the NSX is overpriced for it's performance. I agree it's sexier and more rare than a Z06. I think Acura thinks customers will pay that price for it's rarity, they think their NSX clients won't be smart enough to know a Z06 is faster than an NSX so therefore they don't care.

Also one person said about the chasis being 12 years old...and then another person said it was a technology hot bed or something... LOL



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