NEW NSX? 3.7L v6 330hp?
#3
At first glance it looks like a firebird, transam. Doesn't surprise me at all that all they are doing is taking the "edges" off and making more ugly...........not surpised at all.....Anyone read Japanese ?
#5
Originally posted by Fabvsix
At first glance it looks like a firebird, transam. Doesn't surprise me at all that all they are doing is taking the "edges" off and making more ugly...........not surpised at all.....Anyone read Japanese ?
At first glance it looks like a firebird, transam. Doesn't surprise me at all that all they are doing is taking the "edges" off and making more ugly...........not surpised at all.....Anyone read Japanese ?
The current styling is hands down the top 5 sexiest implementations on the road. Not sure why they want to change
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#9
Originally posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
330 hp isn't enuff unless it weighs 2700 pounds.
330 hp isn't enuff unless it weighs 2700 pounds.
Of course it is. It'll put the car into the low 13's/ high 12's and that's plenty. This is NOT a drag car.
#13
for a 90k car, it should have 400 MINIMUM HP, regardless of what its meant for and not meant for. regardless of every other statistic, 400 should be a MINIMUM, anything less is a laughing stock. look at the MULTITUDE of high end cars now or soon to be released that have 400 + HP!!, not to mention, alot of them are right around that price, if not cheaper (Z06, Viper, new caddy CTS-V)
the NSX can no longer ride on its looks, semi-exotci status, handling statistics, reputation, build quality, etc.
the thing needs a major boost in HP and torque, at LEAAAAST 100 hp, even that would be less than 400. but if they come back with a 300-330 HP NSX, it will still be a joke.
the NSX can no longer ride on its looks, semi-exotci status, handling statistics, reputation, build quality, etc.
the thing needs a major boost in HP and torque, at LEAAAAST 100 hp, even that would be less than 400. but if they come back with a 300-330 HP NSX, it will still be a joke.
#15
i challange anyone to name ONE THING that the NSX does better on ANY racetrack, any road course, any test, than a 50k Z06. im talking finish product in stock form vs finished product in stock form. i dont give a fuck that the NSX is hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah..im talking purely about performance. because THATS the only thing to consider when in the market for such a car. PERFORMANCE, and lets face it, at this point in time, the NSX is miles behind the competition.
i dont beleive that there is a single thing anyone can name or reference to.
that simple fact alone should be enough to light a HUUUGE fire under Honda's ass to get back in the game!!
i dont beleive that there is a single thing anyone can name or reference to.
that simple fact alone should be enough to light a HUUUGE fire under Honda's ass to get back in the game!!
#16
Originally posted by jimcol711
i challange anyone to name ONE THING that the NSX does better on ANY racetrack, any road course, any test, than a 50k Z06. im talking finish product in stock form vs finished product in stock form. i dont give a fuck that the NSX is hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah..im talking purely about performance. because THATS the only thing to consider when in the market for such a car. PERFORMANCE, and lets face it, at this point in time, the NSX is miles behind the competition.
i dont beleive that there is a single thing anyone can name or reference to.
that simple fact alone should be enough to light a HUUUGE fire under Honda's ass to get back in the game!!
i challange anyone to name ONE THING that the NSX does better on ANY racetrack, any road course, any test, than a 50k Z06. im talking finish product in stock form vs finished product in stock form. i dont give a fuck that the NSX is hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah..im talking purely about performance. because THATS the only thing to consider when in the market for such a car. PERFORMANCE, and lets face it, at this point in time, the NSX is miles behind the competition.
i dont beleive that there is a single thing anyone can name or reference to.
that simple fact alone should be enough to light a HUUUGE fire under Honda's ass to get back in the game!!
What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?
#17
Originally posted by Zapata
What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?
What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?
Also, you are comparing a 12 year old chassis to a 4 year old one. The NSX WAS a technological marvel when it was new...I'm sure when the redesign is officially announced it will have a whole new set of marvels to offer.
#18
Originally posted by Zapata
What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?
What standards did you used to put the NSX behind the competition?
point being, for 90k, the NSX does not live up to its price.
#19
Originally posted by jimcol711
...hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah...
...hand built or has a longer warranty, or a better interior, blah blah blah...
#21
Originally posted by jimcol711
on the track, on the streets, by the numbers, the fact that the NSX is handbuilt is 100% meaningless. being handbuilt doesnt help its performance whatsoever.
on the track, on the streets, by the numbers, the fact that the NSX is handbuilt is 100% meaningless. being handbuilt doesnt help its performance whatsoever.
PS...I do think the NSX is overpriced...it should be about 20K cheaper.
#22
NSX is overpriced... plain and simple. If I had $140K CDN to spend on a car id buy the CL/SL 55 in a heart beat.. offers the best of both worlds. performance and luxury... and has the mercedez name =)
However i do admit that NSXs are rare machines.. I see more porches than NSXs.. if you want to be unique the NSX is the way to go.
However i do admit that NSXs are rare machines.. I see more porches than NSXs.. if you want to be unique the NSX is the way to go.
#25
Originally posted by jimcol711
the nsx does not outhandle or outperform the Z06 in anyway. not in straighline performance, braking, slolomn, road courses, etc. and the Z06 can be had for significantly less money. additionally, a Z06 that costs 50k with an additional 30-40k in mods (to get it to equal the price of the NSX) would downright slaughter probably most every car ever built, period.
point being, for 90k, the NSX does not live up to its price.
the nsx does not outhandle or outperform the Z06 in anyway. not in straighline performance, braking, slolomn, road courses, etc. and the Z06 can be had for significantly less money. additionally, a Z06 that costs 50k with an additional 30-40k in mods (to get it to equal the price of the NSX) would downright slaughter probably most every car ever built, period.
point being, for 90k, the NSX does not live up to its price.
1- Midengine
2- aluminum body
3- hand built and balanced engine
4- aero tuning and high speed stability
The NSX is much better suited for road racing that the z06 will ever be in it's current form. MidEngine RWD will always hold an advantage over F-RWD.
Also, the NSX performs as well and better than the z06. Although straightup comparisons are limited, the World Challenge provides a pretty good inidicator and the NSX has dominated. SO if the NSX was that far behind it wouldn't able to compete.
z06 is awesome car but to the regular person on the street is just another corvette. You can see z06s on the street just about everyday.
You can not say the same about the NSX. 200 NSXs make it to US market every year. How many z06s are sold?
#26
Originally posted by jucee187
NSX is overpriced... plain and simple. If I had $140K CDN to spend on a car id buy the CL/SL 55 in a heart beat.. offers the best of both worlds. performance and luxury... and has the mercedez name =)
However i do admit that NSXs are rare machines.. I see more porches than NSXs.. if you want to be unique the NSX is the way to go.
NSX is overpriced... plain and simple. If I had $140K CDN to spend on a car id buy the CL/SL 55 in a heart beat.. offers the best of both worlds. performance and luxury... and has the mercedez name =)
However i do admit that NSXs are rare machines.. I see more porches than NSXs.. if you want to be unique the NSX is the way to go.
NSX would run circles around the CL/SL 55. You are comparing two completely different cars.
#27
Originally posted by jimcol711
on the track, on the streets, by the numbers, the fact that the NSX is handbuilt is 100% meaningless. being handbuilt doesnt help its performance whatsoever.
on the track, on the streets, by the numbers, the fact that the NSX is handbuilt is 100% meaningless. being handbuilt doesnt help its performance whatsoever.
#28
very true on the exclusivity of the NSX, i see at least 1-3 Z06 per week, id guess, i maybe see 1 NSX per month. to be perfectly honest, if i were looking for a 50k head-turner, a used NSX would be way up there on my list, but the performance is dissapointing to me.
as where the Z06 will knock your socks off but as you said, to the untrained eye, its just another C5 vette.
as where the Z06 will knock your socks off but as you said, to the untrained eye, its just another C5 vette.
#29
Originally posted by jimcol711
very true on the exclusivity of the NSX, i see at least 1-3 Z06 per week, id guess, i maybe see 1 NSX per month. to be perfectly honest, if i were looking for a 50k head-turner, a used NSX would be way up there on my list, but the performance is dissapointing to me.
as where the Z06 will knock your socks off but as you said, to the untrained eye, its just another C5 vette.
very true on the exclusivity of the NSX, i see at least 1-3 Z06 per week, id guess, i maybe see 1 NSX per month. to be perfectly honest, if i were looking for a 50k head-turner, a used NSX would be way up there on my list, but the performance is dissapointing to me.
as where the Z06 will knock your socks off but as you said, to the untrained eye, its just another C5 vette.
Take both cars out on to the (road)track and I will bet you will perform better times in the NSX.
#30
Originally posted by jucee187
what is the rating of a 1991 NSX? are they quick cars back then?
what is the rating of a 1991 NSX? are they quick cars back then?
Vette for sale 13K
NSX for sale 31K
vs
Corvette:
OHV V8 5.7 245-405 HP 330-385 TQ
6-speed manual: 16/25
4-speed automatic: 16/24
NSX:
DOHC V6 3.0 252-270 HP 210 TQ
5-speed manual: 18/24
4-speed automatic: 18/24
#33
Damn--even that old NSX still looks hot!
Don't put your Vette next to an NSX or else you'll never look at it the same way again.
The real question is, however, where is Acura going to go with the next NSX. I believe the answer to this question may represent where the company as a whole will be heading in the future.
If they build a conservative, mass produced NSX, we're all in big trouble when it comes to future Acuras and the level of passion they will instill.
Don't put your Vette next to an NSX or else you'll never look at it the same way again.
The real question is, however, where is Acura going to go with the next NSX. I believe the answer to this question may represent where the company as a whole will be heading in the future.
If they build a conservative, mass produced NSX, we're all in big trouble when it comes to future Acuras and the level of passion they will instill.
#34
Originally posted by Zapata
NSX would run circles around the CL/SL 55. You are comparing two completely different cars.
NSX would run circles around the CL/SL 55. You are comparing two completely different cars.
is 49K canadian a good price for a 1991 NSX? in todays rates that is approx 35K US does anyone know the performance specs? 0-60 and 1/4 times?
#35
Originally posted by jucee187
in a 1/4 mile race?.. i dont think so... in the curves.. maybe.. dont under estimate AMG benzes handling, im not comparing cars im comparing the price and what you can get.. spend a little more and you can get the CL600 or S600 V12 TT.. all these 4000LB+ cars runs 12s stock. lets see an NSX do that..
is 49K canadian a good price for a 1991 NSX? in todays rates that is approx 35K US does anyone know the performance specs? 0-60 and 1/4 times?
in a 1/4 mile race?.. i dont think so... in the curves.. maybe.. dont under estimate AMG benzes handling, im not comparing cars im comparing the price and what you can get.. spend a little more and you can get the CL600 or S600 V12 TT.. all these 4000LB+ cars runs 12s stock. lets see an NSX do that..
is 49K canadian a good price for a 1991 NSX? in todays rates that is approx 35K US does anyone know the performance specs? 0-60 and 1/4 times?
4000lb might accelerate well but it will not handle and stop as well as a 3153lb midengine i can tell you that without a doubt.
Take both cars to laguna seca and see which does better.
#38
Originally posted by jucee187
ahh the infamous corkscrew.. I hate that turn when playing GT3.. haha. .but my F1 vehicle handles it very well.
ahh the infamous corkscrew.. I hate that turn when playing GT3.. haha. .but my F1 vehicle handles it very well.
YUP! ugh, you gotta brake hard before you hit the crest of the hill so you can turn.
#39
Originally posted by Zapata
YUP! ugh, you gotta brake hard before you hit the crest of the hill so you can turn.
YUP! ugh, you gotta brake hard before you hit the crest of the hill so you can turn.
#40
A Z06 will beat a NSX is the quarter mile race.
A Z06 will beat a NSX on a road course.
Let's just all agree that the NSX is overpriced for it's performance. I agree it's sexier and more rare than a Z06. I think Acura thinks customers will pay that price for it's rarity, they think their NSX clients won't be smart enough to know a Z06 is faster than an NSX so therefore they don't care.
Also one person said about the chasis being 12 years old...and then another person said it was a technology hot bed or something... LOL
A Z06 will beat a NSX on a road course.
Let's just all agree that the NSX is overpriced for it's performance. I agree it's sexier and more rare than a Z06. I think Acura thinks customers will pay that price for it's rarity, they think their NSX clients won't be smart enough to know a Z06 is faster than an NSX so therefore they don't care.
Also one person said about the chasis being 12 years old...and then another person said it was a technology hot bed or something... LOL