Motortrend TL-s 0-60 ----- 6.28 Secs

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Old 04-04-2001, 04:18 PM
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Motortrend TL-s 0-60 ----- 6.28 Secs

Motortrend May 2001 issue:

0-60----6.28 Secs
Qtr Mile----14.72 at 97.6mph
Braking 60-0---- 127feet



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Old 04-04-2001, 04:20 PM
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starting to sound better for the Type S ...

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m.....will it be faster than cl-s/// i do not think so..cl-s is suppose to be faster than tl-s right...

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Old 04-04-2001, 04:23 PM
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I'm telling you guys, our cars can do 0-60 in 6.1 , all depends on what kind of launch get and the temp outside.

the 6.01 I got from gtech was in 25 degrees weather. and after 3 or 4 runs.

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My time slips are better then their TL-S's are ... nahh nahhh naa naaa LOL

** Also my actual best GTECH 0-60 was 5.6 sec in one direction and 5.8 back the other way... but I still am unsure as to how reliable this is for "real" times. It is def. a great benchmark to see how much it improves w/mods but for a "true" time reading.....take it to the track and look at your 60' and 1/4 mile **

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I think the TL-S and CL-S should be close. I think (not sure) about what temp they do the tests at. They could have also had a "really" small test driver for lower weight (j/k).
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A stock cl-s should be mid 6's..... 6.5 - 6.6

Ya never know what the car mags do to get their numbers.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tel1sps:
A stock cl-s should be mid 6's..... 6.5 - 6.6

Ya never know what the car mags do to get their numbers.

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Exactly, it would be a huge improvement to see a full manifest:

1. driver or occupants weight
2. Full tank/(1/2)/low? -- or set policy on this
3. Temp, baro, humidity.

It would help me make decisions about cars. I would hate to find out some great car got tested on a 120 degree day with two Sumo Wrestlers in it


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Yeah, if you ran the pair together at the same time I think you'll find them extremely close.... The curb weight of the CL Type-S is 3510 lb. (3525 lb. with Navigation System), and the curb weight of the TL Type-S is TL Type S - 3558 lbs. (3574 lbs. with Navigation system), so I would expect if there is any advantage it would be to the CL because of the 48 lbs advantage, but that is gonna be basically unnoticeable in the real world. It might affect times like a thousandth or two, but that's about it.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by VTEC Animal:
Yeah, if you ran the pair together at the same time I think you'll find them extremely close....

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I agree.... they should be extremely close to each other... if not exactly alike.

Also, from what I heard elsewhere, Motortrend adjusts for Atmospheric conditions... temperature, humidity etc.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Arthur Hunter:
I agree.... they should be extremely close to each other... if not exactly alike.

Also, from what I heard elsewhere, Motortrend adjusts for Atmospheric conditions... temperature, humidity etc.

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I'd like to see that math



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Old 04-04-2001, 05:34 PM
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I believe it was just for the speed.

So if the car was run at sea level with that
trap speed, a 14.3-14.4 ET should be attainable.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tel1sps:
Originally posted by Arthur Hunter:
I agree.... they should be extremely close to each other... if not exactly alike.

Also, from what I heard elsewhere, Motortrend adjusts for Atmospheric conditions... temperature, humidity etc.

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I'd like to see that math

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tel1sps:
I'd like to see that math

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I would like to see that too.... but what it basically mean is that the figures would be consistent across all makes and models... regardless of the time of day, temperature, humidity etc. of a specific test....

Some magazines could rig a test by testing a car during an extremely hot day, thus killing the acceleration times of a vehicle....



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Old 04-04-2001, 06:46 PM
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I find it impossible for the TLS to be faster. it would be beleiveable if the diff was 6.6 to 6.4 or something, but claiming 6.2, BS!!!! that is toooooo big of a diff w/ the same engine in a heaveir car. I always thought my car was faster than 6.5 due to some of the races i got into when i was stock, i beat an S500, which is supposed to be 6.1. And that was the first day i got my car, so eat that motor trend!!!!!!!!!!

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I think Motor Trend gives our cars the fastest time out of any mag or review that I have seen, MT gives us 6.4 from 0-60mph and other mags and reviews the lowest I have seen is 6.6.. but it does seem like they like the TL-S better than the CL-S.. 6.7 for the TL-P.. wow. =P

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Old 04-04-2001, 08:26 PM
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I would believe that the times are better because of the temp difference. When they tested the Cl-S, I believe it was in the middle of the summer. And with the TL-S, one would believe that those numbers were attained recently, which would mean cooler temps. Could also be that they have learn how to drive the car. I believe one of the rags have the CL-S as a long-term test car.
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Yea Motor Trend has the CL-S as a test car.. they drove like only 3K in one year so how much did they like it?.. we discussed this thing in an earlier topic already.. but if the temps are controlled for then shouldn't the 0-60 mph times be normalized?

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Can someone explain to me how one would adjust for atmospheric conditions in the real world? I would think that it's alot of work.
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i think it would be really close since their weight are close and they use the same engine.

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well if anyone has a friend whoh as a TLS .. then go run him once and take a videoclip.. We will see =)
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type S smokes all: are you sure it was a new S500? because my dad has one and it beats both my brothers 540 and my other bros GS400
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