darrinb

yeah yeah we all know the vette is a faster car but i ran vs some kid in my school in his vette just to see how i stack up against em

for those of u that dont know, i have a auto w/ i/h, ran a 14.2 1/4

stock auto vette verts run the 1/4 in around 13.5, the car was stock engine wise but had a few things slowing it down
-heavy 18" crome wheels
-4 10" speakers in the trunk
-extra passenger

we turned off onto the expresway, was ahead of me and he gunned it as i followed him i was able to stay only 1-2 cars back through first and second gears then he started to pull some more

he was shocked to see how i hung w/ him, i wanna catch him from a stop next time though

TypeSKid

riiiiiight


Even with that shit, the C5 will WALK you.

I'd never even bother running with one unless I was sprayin'.

darrinb

i aint bullshittin dawg, i have no reason to. his vette is prolly a very high 13 sec car verse my low 14 sec car on the street anything is possible if u know any thing about street racing playboy

Doc.Booty

I wouldn't run it from a stand still, we have alot more going to gain by going from a roll than a RWD car does.

Just be happy that your car doesn't ride like it's on brick suspension.

azzkiker23

definetley do not race him from a roll.....my friend had a stock 95 corvette and everytime we would go from a roll he would destroy me....seriously......he would just take off. From a stop however was different. I woulld hang with him until 4th gear. Then he would pull away pretty hard. But until 4th I was just barely behind him.

ccshamrock2004

darrin Vince doesn't have a c5..he just has a base Vette. but nonetheless his Vette isn't the lightest and his acceleration is weak compared to the cl-s. his 4 woofers, tv's, rims, and passenger would make his a crappy car from a stand still...

thatguy

C5 is a base vettee, z06 is the fast one

darrinb

we'll go from a stand still next time i see talk to him

moforose3.0

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ccshamrock2004
[B]darrin Vince doesn't have a c5..he just has a base Vette.

allmotor_2000

The C5 still runs the 1/4 at 109mph... 3rd and 4th, they own us unless we are turbo or a LOT of NOS. Even a S/C'd CL-S would lose!

numbaonestunna

I was beginning to think people on this forum were going crazy.... CL-S vs C5? What's next, CL-S vs R6? Hahaha....

types1967

ok a c5 vs 6speed supercharged the cls will win i have first hand expierience i beat a c5 vette all the way up to 100+ trust me a boosted motor makes all the world of difference and when i get the clutch package installed this week its even more of a gain

allmotor_2000

That maybe true... but I doubt it. I can believe the CLS (6spd and S/C'd) can keep up with a C5 6spd (<-- manual) until around 4th gear... and then the C5 will start inching ahead. If you arn't making > 320whp you won't pull on a C5 (6spd).

An AUTO C5... I believe a S/C'd CL-S 6spd could possible beat to 100+ mph as you stated (albeit... by a small margin).

This is assuming the C5 driver knows how to push the car the way it should be driven.

darrinb

i aint bullshittin,

look, an auto vert c5 runs the quarter in around 13.5ish, add some HEAVY ass chrome wheels, a system that takes up the WHOLE trunk, and an extra passenger, it become like a high 13 sec car, maybe even low 14's
i think i ran a 14.2, i havent scanned the time slips yet so i know yall dont believe me but i fuckin went 14.2

this makes my story believable, i wish i had a a motherfuckin camera to tape this shit

can u guys read wtf i'm typin, i didnt run a fuckin stock c5 vette!!!!

thank you

Darrin

darrinb

oh yea one more thing,

people here the word "vette" or corvette what ever the fuck u wanna call it and are damn, like the fuckin car is unbeatable, and its a god or some shit, it aint nothin but fuckin a american sports car

"omg u beat a vette, no way thats fuckin impossible"

2003TL-S

The one thing not a lot of people aren't remebering is that there are a lot of things that affect a race, maybe the auto C5 didn't downshift as fast as darrinb could with SS to get in the right gear, heavy wheels, alot of extra weight. The other thing us Acura guys forget is that like darrinb has a faster than normal CLS, this guy may have a slower C5, maybe it has been beaten. Who knows, all I got to say make believers out of these people and video tape it next time.

scalbert

This is not meant to argue your statements as I am sure this did occur and sounds correct. You state that when you left 2nd gear he started pulling, that makes sense as your lower gearing helps to alleviate the torque deficit. By the time you hit 3rd, with a rolling start, only a few seconds have gone by. If he started pulling by 70 imagine what would have happened by 100 MPH.

Also, I am sure you ran a 14.2. But please stop believing that this is indicative of a car in normal test conditions. What do you feel your times would be if run in 80 degree temps in high humidity (not the humidity you northern’s think is high; I'm talking 80 degree dew points)?? I would suspect that you would run high 14's and this would be relative to the Corvette running a high 13 stock and add a few tenths for the additional weight.

Also, did you have another run within 1% of the 14.2?? If you did not have another run in 14.34 or less that 14.2 is irrelevant based on set guidelines for validation of runs.

Point being, do not base comparisons your ideal run on other less than ideal or corrected runs. Unless you run at the same time the comparison is meaningless.

darrinb

i understand what u sayin scalbert, i had like 4 runs in the 14.3 range btw

allmotor_2000

The last time I went to Carlsbad... there was a C5 (auto) with intake, headers and exhaust busting 12.2's all day long!

alcourts

I drive a 2001 CLS and a 2001 C5 coupe with long tube headers. The CLS is a great driver, but no way could it even come close to the C5. The CL is 3500lbs 260hp/232 ftlb 0-60 6.4s vs the C5 3200lbs 350hp/375ftlb (+20 hp for headers) 0-60 4.7s. Lot's of cars can beat a C5, but the CLS is not one of them.

Scrib

darrin - I got mad respect for you and your runs, but I'm not buying this one. DOOD... It's a vette. Big honkin' V8 vette. Your car isn't that fast.

I'm not trying to dis 'ya, but come on...

allmotor_2000

I think he did beat the C5... I just don't think its a 'general' representation of how things might occur. It is the particular situation between two particular cars... you can't generalize and say "CL-S with I/H/E will take on a C5 and hang in there!"

darrinb

hold up for a sec,

i NEVER said i beat the vette, i was 1 car back through like 50 then like 2 cars back to 100

scrib, read all the details, i'll say it before and i'll say it again,
stock c5 vert runs 13.5ish, add the heavy ass system(i'm guessing its around 120-150lbs), heavy chrome wheels, and the extra passenger and that could make the vette a high 13 low 14 sec car putting it right at my level

and with all the extra weight i am positve i can beat him from a standstill all the way through 2nd gear

Scrib

Again man... Not dissin' ya. Just having a hard time buying into it. Opinions are just that...

No hard feelings...

TLlikeWHOA

lol dont worry darrin...i believe u, i took a vette alos =)
but im sprayin =/

bent09

iTrader: (1)

I believe ya. I ran a couple at the track and was able to take them. Also my buddy who upgraded to the z06 used to be pissed when I would take his c5. I also got an nsx but no one but my buddy that was with me believes me. A CL running 13.4 gets no respect.

darrinb

thanks dawg

fuck the haters



j/k scrib,

i should drive to indiana and smoke your slow ass G you fuckin trader, lemme know if your ever in MI playa

Scrib

Just let me know when you're coming down.

Roadmaster

yeah those LS1 motors just suck ass anyways

I really hate to tell you this, but the extra weight from his "Heavy Ass" speakers is in all actuality going to allow him to cut your ass off the line so fast you won't know what happened. Lets also not forget that the C5 Corvette comes from the factory with 17in rims in front and 18in rims in the rear.

I am sorry, but I just get really tired of hearing all the "What ifs" and "Oh well he had heavy wheels" and the "I am positive I can's"

You got beat... I hear the stories all the time too. "Well I didn't get beat to badly" "he got me off the line, but I was hanging"

Your sense of speed and distance on the street is so much different from when you go to the track. Two even one car length is a pretty big win.

In the end all I have to say is wow, I'm impressed, you got beat by a stock corvette.

darrinb

whats your fuckin point??

i just post the facts playa, no bullshit for me. if i didnt hate the SOB in the vette i would get it on tape, my story is believable

bent09

iTrader: (1)

Well then I guess you could say that I destroyed, smashed, embarassed, whooped, spanked, made him my bitch, or just flat out killed a C5 vette in a CLS! Thanks for the pick me up!!

Roadmaster

I guess I don't get your point, but you are welcome nonetheless.

Roadmaster

All I am saying is try and get some more real like knowledge. I have run my fare share of Vettes at the strip and sure enough I catch a few asleep at the light. I am running 13.6's with my Z

My point however is this... I know of many people who can truly drive their cars to perfection. I'm talking high 12's with drag radials on a stock C5 at around the 110mph mark.

Its just a bad idea to start blabbering how the Vette is just some "Junk American Sports Car" because it can and will eat you unless you have something truly special.

This reminds me of a new Lamborghini Diablo that happened to be at Indianapolis Raceway Park a few months ago. The guy took his car there to show off, but got so much shit for not running. He eventually made one run to prove his point. a 13.3 second time in a Diablo is nothing special. I guess that means my 13.6 isn't too much behind that time so in theory I ran with a Lamborghini Diablo and wouldn't have lost by too much. Maybe if I run him from a roll I can at least hang with him till the top end of the track.



Hey I love the CL, however its no longer with us and is by no means the king of the quarter mile.

Dustin

lightningman

anything can happen but i have yet to beat a c5 with my cl

last time he had 4 cars on me , and it was a women that was driving.

as of today i have yet been able to run one with the truck, i been at the lights three times with them and on Z06 but they wouldn't go.

and no i don't think i can take a properly driven Z06,

darrinb

dustin,

read all the posts before you make any more statements please. i know what a c5 is capable of you aint gotta tell me. But this vette that i race is a totally different story. He had his top down when racing too, that slows it down too.

What mods u got on your Z??

Imma explain it again for like the 4th fuckin time, a stock auto vert c5 runs like 13.4-13.6ish, add the wheels he has, i'm guessing they are like 2x heavier than the stock c5 wheels, his system takes up the whole trunk, its 4 10 inch speakers in a huge box, he had an extra passenger over me, and his top was down. This puts his car right at my level. All that weight kills him off the line.

I dunno if you know but my auto ran 14.2!!!!

bent09

iTrader: (1)

a z06 drops 12.8 in the quater and would smoke a c5 high 12s are very very unlikly

scalbert

And what do you think you would run at the track right now?? Was the 13.4 - 13.6 example taken with the same conditions as were done with your 14.2??

Roadmaster

Obviously you read too many magazines... Hey I bench race if I have to, but then I like to see real cars runnning real numbers. There are currently 2 Z06's here in Indianapolis running 12.2's and once a 12.0.

I talked to another Z06 owner who just bought the car, his timeslips were in the 13.3 to 13.2 range. A kid here in Indy has a Z06 that runs 13.0. Then again a few other random Z06's have posted mid 12 second times.

Magazines are magazines. Real life is real life. As you can see a few of those Z06 owners with good traction are about to break into the 11's while a few others need to learn how to drive.

The C5 is the exact same way, and believe me with a good set of rubber on the back, perfect shifts and good air the high 12's are very possible and do happen more than you would think with completely bone stock 350hp LS1 C5's

I am not trying to hate on the CL, all I am asking is get out and learn as much as possible about other cars before you start to make assumptions.

Dustin

darrinb

well right now its raining out so i'd guess like a 15. something, when i ran 14.2 i saw stock ls1's go anywhere from 13.4-13.9, modded ones were anywhere from mid 12's to very low 13's

darrinb

i underdtand what u dayin dustin, i know a 6 speed coupe c5 with some sticky tires, great driver and a cool temp can it a 12 sec 1/4, but dawg u just gotta see this vette i went against, its a waste of a vette, ugly body cladding he added, all his tv's n shit are installed so unprofesionally, i dunno what kinda tires he had though