Lost to a GS400 BUT!....
09-12-2002, 11:03 PM
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scalbert, i really dont know why you want to know this, but im your huckleberry for this one.......
1st - 3.357
2nd - 2.180
3rd - 1.424
4th - 1.00
5th - .753
now i have to go and look at the ratios for the cl-s, just for comparison sake.....damn you
Doc
1st - 3.357
2nd - 2.180
3rd - 1.424
4th - 1.00
5th - .753
now i have to go and look at the ratios for the cl-s, just for comparison sake.....damn you
Doc
09-13-2002, 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by DrRick
scalbert, i really dont know why you want to know this, but im your huckleberry for this one.......
1st - 3.357
2nd - 2.180
3rd - 1.424
4th - 1.00
5th - .753
now i have to go and look at the ratios for the cl-s, just for comparison sake.....damn you
scalbert, i really dont know why you want to know this, but im your huckleberry for this one.......
1st - 3.357
2nd - 2.180
3rd - 1.424
4th - 1.00
5th - .753
now i have to go and look at the ratios for the cl-s, just for comparison sake.....damn you
I wanted to compare overall ratios; below is for the 6-Speed
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Drive
3.933 2.478 1.700 1.250 0.976 0.771 3.286
12.924 8.143 5.586 4.108 3.207 2.534 Overall Ratio
As expected, the 6-Speed gearing is noticeably more aggressive than the GS. Our 5th gear is nearly the same as the GS's 4th. Which due to a lower weight and more aggressive gearing could potentially overcome the torque disadvantage.
What might come into play at higher speeds is if the GS has a lower CD, which I beleive it does. CD has more of an affect on acceleration at higher speeds than weight.
So, in the end it still looks like stock/stock, a GS will pulls better as the speeds approach and go over three digits. But below that it should be comparable.
09-13-2002, 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by scalbert
I wanted to compare overall ratios; below is for the 6-Speed
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Drive
3.933 2.478 1.700 1.250 0.976 0.771 3.286
12.924 8.143 5.586 4.108 3.207 2.534 Overall Ratio
As expected, the 6-Speed gearing is noticeably more aggressive than the GS. Our 5th gear is nearly the same as the GS's 4th. Which due to a lower weight and more aggressive gearing could potentially overcome the torque disadvantage.
What might come into play at higher speeds is if the GS has a lower CD, which I beleive it does. CD has more of an affect on acceleration at higher speeds than weight.
So, in the end it still looks like stock/stock, a GS will pulls better as the speeds approach and go over three digits. But below that it should be comparable.
I wanted to compare overall ratios; below is for the 6-Speed
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Drive
3.933 2.478 1.700 1.250 0.976 0.771 3.286
12.924 8.143 5.586 4.108 3.207 2.534 Overall Ratio
As expected, the 6-Speed gearing is noticeably more aggressive than the GS. Our 5th gear is nearly the same as the GS's 4th. Which due to a lower weight and more aggressive gearing could potentially overcome the torque disadvantage.
What might come into play at higher speeds is if the GS has a lower CD, which I beleive it does. CD has more of an affect on acceleration at higher speeds than weight.
So, in the end it still looks like stock/stock, a GS will pulls better as the speeds approach and go over three digits. But below that it should be comparable.
Oh yea at those speeds arodynamic play a big part in it too! And the GS has one of the slipperiest arodynamic car body in the world. I will let Dr.Rick explain that one!!!
09-13-2002, 10:15 AM
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Oh yeah--sorry to be off the topic--But for all you skins fans ( possibly NovaWhite and GS400Pusher) LETS GO EAGLES...Monday night baby!
ok...Im done, sorry.
ok...Im done, sorry.
09-13-2002, 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by mc222@aol.com
Oh yeah--sorry to be off the topic--But for all you skins fans ( possibly NovaWhite and GS400Pusher) LETS GO EAGLES...Monday night baby!
ok...Im done, sorry.
Oh yeah--sorry to be off the topic--But for all you skins fans ( possibly NovaWhite and GS400Pusher) LETS GO EAGLES...Monday night baby!
ok...Im done, sorry.
09-13-2002, 12:42 PM
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lookin at the dynos of the cl-s' with i/h/e, i must admit that the gains are impressive. i wish there was a combo that we had to could give us 30 - 40 rwhp, other than forced induction. but we do have some tricks that can utilize what we have more effectively. they are just costly. i really cant wait to get back to the track and see what i can get the 2nd time around with the new ECU and all. ill be interested to see what times you guys get tonite. have fun all.........
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09-13-2002, 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by DrRick
i really cant wait to get back to the track and see what i can get the 2nd time around with the new ECU and all.
i really cant wait to get back to the track and see what i can get the 2nd time around with the new ECU and all.
I haven't had the 6-Speed to the track yet, just got it in July. So I'm curious what I can pull down. I think I'm going to pull the manifold and TB and P&P them this weekend. I also hope to put UR pullies on by then. Not to mention a new intake...
But one fun trick I am working on, the 1.5x1.5 Inch Urethane bar stock is on its way, are rear spring blocks. I'll mill out the Urethane hopefully next week and test it out. Having the rears inflated to 44 PSI with the spring blocks and then the fronts down to 27 PSI I hope to hit 2.0 - 2.1 short times. That should help to give you a good run
09-13-2002, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by scalbert
We'll just have to get lined up down at Silver Dollar Raceway on the 29th.
I haven't had the 6-Speed to the track yet, just got it in July. So I'm curious what I can pull down. I think I'm going to pull the manifold and TB and P&P them this weekend. I also hope to put UR pullies on by then. Not to mention a new intake...
But one fun trick I am working on, the 1.5x1.5 Inch Urethane bar stock is on its way, are rear spring blocks. I'll mill out the Urethane hopefully next week and test it out. Having the rears inflated to 44 PSI with the spring blocks and then the fronts down to 27 PSI I hope to hit 2.0 - 2.1 short times. That should help to give you a good run
We'll just have to get lined up down at Silver Dollar Raceway on the 29th.
I haven't had the 6-Speed to the track yet, just got it in July. So I'm curious what I can pull down. I think I'm going to pull the manifold and TB and P&P them this weekend. I also hope to put UR pullies on by then. Not to mention a new intake...
But one fun trick I am working on, the 1.5x1.5 Inch Urethane bar stock is on its way, are rear spring blocks. I'll mill out the Urethane hopefully next week and test it out. Having the rears inflated to 44 PSI with the spring blocks and then the fronts down to 27 PSI I hope to hit 2.0 - 2.1 short times. That should help to give you a good run
09-14-2002, 02:36 PM
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13.9@100 is respectable, esp when you can put 4 or 5 people in your car when you need to, drive in isolation from all that road noise, nice stereo, great seats...etc.
My friend has a 98 GS400, great car, better all around than my car, but a little pricey to buy one and keep the SS, so i went with value, bought a CLS and kept the ls1 SS.
I respect your car and what it stands for; just can't afford it right now, as would be the same problem for all the LS1 board members. Start at 45k or more, add the power adders you need to get to the 12s with serious handling (probably another 10k) and you're just out of their price range.
However, overall there has been such a push in performance right now it's great in the luxury sports market.
Unfortunately my present financial situation doesn't allow me to buy a really fast car, that has the attributes of a luxury car. The e55, rs6, m5, clk 55, clk 32 amg, m3, etc are what I need, but won't be able to afford until i finish my residency.
So you can come here, listen to us talk about value pricing of our CLS and chat with one fast cobra owner, and a couple of quick LS1s without serious attitude problems (? envy problems)
Joe
My friend has a 98 GS400, great car, better all around than my car, but a little pricey to buy one and keep the SS, so i went with value, bought a CLS and kept the ls1 SS.
I respect your car and what it stands for; just can't afford it right now, as would be the same problem for all the LS1 board members. Start at 45k or more, add the power adders you need to get to the 12s with serious handling (probably another 10k) and you're just out of their price range.
However, overall there has been such a push in performance right now it's great in the luxury sports market.
Unfortunately my present financial situation doesn't allow me to buy a really fast car, that has the attributes of a luxury car. The e55, rs6, m5, clk 55, clk 32 amg, m3, etc are what I need, but won't be able to afford until i finish my residency.
So you can come here, listen to us talk about value pricing of our CLS and chat with one fast cobra owner, and a couple of quick LS1s without serious attitude problems (? envy problems)
Joe
09-14-2002, 09:44 PM
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Thanks roo97ss for the complments and respect of my car! It took me along time to get where I'm at today, especailly with 2 kids and a wife! If Daycare wasn't so expensive (300.00 a week) I would have bought an S500 or 600 with the AMG package
09-18-2002, 07:53 AM
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That should make you pretty fast in the 1/4 if you get that kind of 60ft time. Keep us inform, Its great how two total different car brands can hold a nice civilized tread and get along. I wish I could go to LS-1 board and have a decent chat without them calling me a RICER or something like that!!!
That should make you pretty fast in the 1/4 if you get that kind of 60ft time. Keep us inform, Its great how two total different car brands can hold a nice civilized tread and get along. I wish I could go to LS-1 board and have a decent chat without them calling me a RICER or something like that!!!
09-20-2002, 11:55 PM
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I have to say... I think Nova's TypeS will even beat a slightly modded GS400. I followed him today and his car was amazingly fast. No disrespect, my 540 beat any stock GS pretty easily due to my mods, but damn I was very impressed with Nova's car....WATCHOUT! Hell, he'd give me a hell of a run!
09-21-2002, 11:10 PM
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thnx alex
Im waiting patiently for a GS400 or even a 430 from club lexus . I havn't gone up againt a 430 yet.
Hopefully someone will join .
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...threadid=58640
Im waiting patiently for a GS400 or even a 430 from club lexus . I havn't gone up againt a 430 yet.
Hopefully someone will join .
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...threadid=58640
09-22-2002, 02:47 AM
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NOVA we gonna have to meet up! I got to see how fast your car really is!!!! I know my boss's TL-S is pretty quick so I can only imagine how quick yours CL-S is.
AC I also wanna check your car out too!! Maybe we can have a mini meet and make a video!!!!
AC I also wanna check your car out too!! Maybe we can have a mini meet and make a video!!!!
09-22-2002, 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by GS400_PUSHER
NOVA we gonna have to meet up! I got to see how fast your car really is!!!! I know my boss's TL-S is pretty quick so I can only imagine how quick yours CL-S is.
AC I also wanna check your car out too!! Maybe we can have a mini meet and make a video!!!!
NOVA we gonna have to meet up! I got to see how fast your car really is!!!! I know my boss's TL-S is pretty quick so I can only imagine how quick yours CL-S is.
AC I also wanna check your car out too!! Maybe we can have a mini meet and make a video!!!!
GS400 can you meet Alex and my self down in alexandria va anytime ? There's a 4 lane road w/ a divder in the middle w/ a couple lights,. runs parallel to 495 and right off the exit
rarely anycars or cops.
495 exit Eishenhower ave. right after the wilson bridge
09-22-2002, 09:54 PM
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I might be able to do that sometime this week. My company is just so busy being that its coming to the end of the physical year! I have my kids straight after work because my wife goes to school at night and I don't want to race with my 2 young ones in the cars
09-23-2002, 05:19 PM
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I'm down, but I'm not sure what my situation will be next week. I'm interested in seeing GS400_PUSHER's car too! Joe, Eisenhower is 2 lanes each way if that's what you meant. Plus I have a pretty good Camcorder so I can film all of it!
09-23-2002, 06:11 PM
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well my brother will be coming with me to the track and he will be filming it with his digital, so we can get some good footage with that. scalbert, PM me and let me know what time you will get there and some other particulars so we can meet up.
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Originally posted by AC
I'm down, but I'm not sure what my situation will be next week. I'm interested in seeing GS400_PUSHER's car too! Joe, Eisenhower is 2 lanes each way if that's what you meant. Plus I have a pretty good Camcorder so I can film all of it!
I'm down, but I'm not sure what my situation will be next week. I'm interested in seeing GS400_PUSHER's car too! Joe, Eisenhower is 2 lanes each way if that's what you meant. Plus I have a pretty good Camcorder so I can film all of it!
hell yeah follow right behind us w/ the digi cam that'll be kick ass
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