CivicB18B1

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TRACTION


FWD + 260hp + Torque = traction problems.

It is possible to eliminate this problem?

As for myself, i saw a "good" improvement when i changed my 5 engine mounts and when i changed my tires from the stock Yokohama 4 seasons tires to the larger Falken Azenis RT-615 225/45/17.

But still, a FWD will be always a FWD. Is there any more ideas to reduce the problem?

Lets share our ideas to have nicer traction!


larger tires ? 245s? 18x8 mags?

Suspension?

Front sway bar?

Tire choice?




I miss the time when i had my B series EG civic when i was racing from 1st gear to 2nd gear i only hear a VERY slight tire spin.. Now on my CLS6, when i race from 1st gear straight to the 2nd gear at full throttle, my tires spin for like 2-3 seconds! Sometimes i had to modulate the gas pedal to reduce the tire spinning.


But when the pavement is hot, it spins much less...



Any ideas?

Pseudomaniac

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Traction is the name of the game with any vehicle. RWD V8 Cars making real power face the same challenges.

The CL-6 has a helical diff - do you have any idea what a God-send that is for an FF car?

If you're serious about wanting that extra traction, I'd score some 7inch 5 lug steelies from an Accord and throw some drag radials on them. Get them shaved to the appropriate level prior to delivery...Tire Rack can do this for you.

Remember, once you've got traction - now every snick, snap of the clutch is going to send it's shockwave through the drivetrain, and not get as lost - but bite - putting more strain on the clutch, axles, CV-Joints, and the engine.

Adjustable struts in the rear - make em as stiff as you can get em. Don't let the car shift it's weight.

Change your seating position so the gravity isnt throwing you around while driving it. I dropped a tenth of my average times after putting a 5pt harness in the S2000, because I was strapped in as apart of the vehicle and could just shift it and throw it around without trying to compensate for my weight against the vehicle's direction.

CLsuperhero

^ agree with above lower the car using adjustable struts but I don't suggest using Tein springs because they are more loose and designed more for comfortable ride. Front sway bar will reduce body roll in the front...since it is FWD a rear sway won't do much. did you poly fill those motor mounts?

fuzzy02CLS

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In the real world I don't really have any traction problems. I do slip a bit if the road is damp & I gun it. I don't get any wheel hop after my mods & tire/rim upgrades.
Now a track is different. I can't get traction worth a damn. Pulling 2.2 2.3 60 foot's.
I will admit when I had the stiff motor mounts in that helped a great deal. But for a DD car they sucked.

Pseudomaniac

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I hate the "beat your teeth out of your head" that the solid motor mounts give you - but at the track, there is no contest.

Without loading up the clutch, there's no consistent way to get the CL under 2 seconds out of the hole.

muha22752

i'e had this problem for a while, even with my lude, and the only thing u can do iis learn how to drive ur car and get good results

aznboi2424

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I thought this thread woas gonna be about our glass trannies

CL FWD SPEED

same here...on top of that the resale value

97BlackAckCL

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There's plenty of discussion threads on here about traction, and PU motor mounts, engine dampers, and wheel hop, try searching a bit

Rajca

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traction bars work miracles on the civics and tegs. some one needs to make one for up

gfrg88

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throw some slicks on there and practice your launching.

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Rajca

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but slicks on the highway/ street. bad idea if u run into rain. im not saying that anyone will be racing on the street. but occasionally punch it at a light or stop.

gfrg88

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yeah, very true.. of course not on the street, I meant the track of course.. you could always get some fatter stickier street radials too, though..

oh and rajca, check your PM box.. i got a quick question for you

Dan

Just go buy a 4wd or rwd car and be done with it!

RooEng

Ttraction bars prevent the wheels driving forward, compressing the strut rod bushings and causing excessive toe in. Anybody thought of replacing the radius/strut rod bushings with harder ones? You could even make a set of traction bars with some tubing and heim joints and fabricating some mounts. http://home.bresnan.net/~dazed/adjustable RWD use them to prevent toe changes when braking but same principle.

RWD muscle cars and FWD imports have more in common than people think.

Rajca

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i believe that theirs a thread on the radius bushing

typeR

ive pulled off a hand full of 1.9 60's and countless 2.0 on street tires but yes 1.8 was my goal seemed impossible ...

TheWeez

No matter what you do, it'll always be wrong-wheel drive.

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OperationDarkie

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Ghetto fab one up son just make some modifications to the civic one or something

Rajca

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i will look into doing that. but what year civic comes close to matching up with our stuff?

CL6

I put on Continental Extreme Contact tires and don't drive it like a Lambo. No problems anymore.