Kid threw a rock at the car
04-25-2004, 05:22 PM
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Kid threw a rock at the car
I was driving down the road and there were two kids around this house and one throws a nice sized rock at my car. I hear it...went back, and finally I called the police. They found the kids and their parents asked that we keep this out of the courts and I now have to get an estimate and or just get it repaired and present them with the bill.
It is only about an inch long below the back window on the passenger side, on the 1/4 panel. I am thinking they will take the dent out, but have to repaint the whole 1/4panel. Is this a logical assumption? I took some pictures, but don't host them...
It is only about an inch long below the back window on the passenger side, on the 1/4 panel. I am thinking they will take the dent out, but have to repaint the whole 1/4panel. Is this a logical assumption? I took some pictures, but don't host them...
04-25-2004, 05:38 PM
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yes, they will have to paint the whole 1/4 panel.
04-25-2004, 05:43 PM
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I miss my 03 CL-S :(
If the paint is scratched too badly they'll probably have to repaint. Get an estimate and make the parents pay for it.
Personally I'd try to get something in writing from either the cop (an incident report of some sort) or the parents in case they back out and decide not to pay. How old were the kids? If they're teenagers they should know better and I'd come down on them hard if the parents back out. If they're younger I'd be a bit more reasonable and remind then it's either pay or go to court.
Personally I'd try to get something in writing from either the cop (an incident report of some sort) or the parents in case they back out and decide not to pay. How old were the kids? If they're teenagers they should know better and I'd come down on them hard if the parents back out. If they're younger I'd be a bit more reasonable and remind then it's either pay or go to court.
04-25-2004, 05:46 PM
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The kids seemed to be under 10 or so. I did call the police, they will be writing up an incident report and the officer said if the parents don't cooperate completely I can still take it to court.
Think I can get away with pain and suffering since I wont have my car for some time?
Think I can get away with pain and suffering since I wont have my car for some time?
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04-25-2004, 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by anothercls
Think I can get away with pain and suffering since I wont have my car for some time?
Think I can get away with pain and suffering since I wont have my car for some time?
youll be inconvienced, i dont think that guarantees you money.
shit if i got money for everytime someone inconvienced me i would be rich.
04-25-2004, 11:20 PM
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tell them to pay you 3 grand even and you won't take them to court, if they don't take them to court for whatever it costs. this way you know their weak spot already and you can exploit it. this isn't being mean since you are the victim, their friggin kids obviously weren't taught values, maybe they will learn to spend some time and actual do some parenting.
04-26-2004, 12:00 PM
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Hate to say it man but I think that silver is hard to blend at the quater panels...does anyone out there have similar exerience...sorry its only 20 months old...someone doored me to the primer and put a crease in my door a week ago...it is hard having nice things in today's world...
04-26-2004, 12:05 PM
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Only one spot s down to the primer, nothing touch up paint wouldn't fix, just the crease.
I should have noted I was joking about pain and suffering.
The paint is going to be my problem, I am thinking it will be part of that side, or should I request the whole car being painted? It would be a bit much, but it isn't my fault their kids threw a rock at my car.
I should have noted I was joking about pain and suffering.
The paint is going to be my problem, I am thinking it will be part of that side, or should I request the whole car being painted? It would be a bit much, but it isn't my fault their kids threw a rock at my car.
04-26-2004, 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by SilviaGTO
dont be one of those losers that abuses the justice system and ties up the court system with stupid lawsuits like that.
youll be inconvienced, i dont think that guarantees you money.
shit if i got money for everytime someone inconvienced me i would be rich.
dont be one of those losers that abuses the justice system and ties up the court system with stupid lawsuits like that.
youll be inconvienced, i dont think that guarantees you money.
shit if i got money for everytime someone inconvienced me i would be rich.
just think how it would be if someone had the same reason on you!, my insurance lost 20,000$ cuz of some stupid emotional trauma reason some guy said when HE hit ME!
04-26-2004, 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by rondog
tell them to pay you 3 grand even and you won't take them to court, if they don't take them to court for whatever it costs. this way you know their weak spot already and you can exploit it. this isn't being mean since you are the victim, their friggin kids obviously weren't taught values, maybe they will learn to spend some time and actual do some parenting.
tell them to pay you 3 grand even and you won't take them to court, if they don't take them to court for whatever it costs. this way you know their weak spot already and you can exploit it. this isn't being mean since you are the victim, their friggin kids obviously weren't taught values, maybe they will learn to spend some time and actual do some parenting.
and if they dont press charges, we all use to be kids but jeez a rock at a car
04-26-2004, 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by AcUrALiTy
just think how it would be if someone had the same reason on you!, my insurance lost 20,000$ cuz of some stupid emotional trauma reason some guy said when HE hit ME!
just think how it would be if someone had the same reason on you!, my insurance lost 20,000$ cuz of some stupid emotional trauma reason some guy said when HE hit ME!
04-27-2004, 12:40 PM
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I would take them to court. My friend had the same thing happen and he decided to be the nice guy and not take the other party to court and have them pay. He is still trying to collect the money from the losers.
04-27-2004, 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by rondog
tell them to pay you 3 grand even and you won't take them to court, if they don't take them to court for whatever it costs. this way you know their weak spot already and you can exploit it. this isn't being mean since you are the victim, their friggin kids obviously weren't taught values, maybe they will learn to spend some time and actual do some parenting.
tell them to pay you 3 grand even and you won't take them to court, if they don't take them to court for whatever it costs. this way you know their weak spot already and you can exploit it. this isn't being mean since you are the victim, their friggin kids obviously weren't taught values, maybe they will learn to spend some time and actual do some parenting.
Originally posted by Vegeta1
I would take them to court. My friend had the same thing happen and he decided to be the nice guy and not take the other party to court and have them pay. He is still trying to collect the money from the losers.
I would take them to court. My friend had the same thing happen and he decided to be the nice guy and not take the other party to court and have them pay. He is still trying to collect the money from the losers.
04-27-2004, 04:01 PM
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If it was me, I would go to 3 really nice body shops for a nice big estimate. Have them pay the middle one. Now, go to the "Dent Doctor". They have ways to get dents like that out ... and most of them can do a really nice job with touch up paint. It would be much cheaper plus, you wouldn't have to put up with the whole panel being painted.
Most body shops won't do touch up type jobs. They would rather paint the whole panel. I would rather have a nice touch up spot and have the original paint on the panel.
Most body shops won't do touch up type jobs. They would rather paint the whole panel. I would rather have a nice touch up spot and have the original paint on the panel.
04-27-2004, 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by GEB
If it was me, I would go to 3 really nice body shops for a nice big estimate. Have them pay the middle one. Now, go to the "Dent Doctor". They have ways to get dents like that out ... and most of them can do a really nice job with touch up paint. It would be much cheaper plus, you wouldn't have to put up with the whole panel being painted.
Most body shops won't do touch up type jobs. They would rather paint the whole panel. I would rather have a nice touch up spot and have the original paint on the panel.
If it was me, I would go to 3 really nice body shops for a nice big estimate. Have them pay the middle one. Now, go to the "Dent Doctor". They have ways to get dents like that out ... and most of them can do a really nice job with touch up paint. It would be much cheaper plus, you wouldn't have to put up with the whole panel being painted.
Most body shops won't do touch up type jobs. They would rather paint the whole panel. I would rather have a nice touch up spot and have the original paint on the panel.
Even when you paint an entire panel, you end up having to consider a "blend." If the paint is metallic and the shop has the best paints, talent, colorimeters, etc, they still are probably going to have to "blend" at/near/into adjacent panels. The flakes have to match and the paint has to match. Sometimes just shooting the adjacent panel just makes it stand out like a sore thumb depending on the light source and direction.
So, if it's the bumper or rear deck lid, you can probably just paint them.
If you are doing that long quarter panel, someone is going to have to some blending somewhere unless they paint the whole car.
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04-27-2004, 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by flipwhip
man, that's what kids do. you shouldn't have driven near them.
man, that's what kids do. you shouldn't have driven near them.
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