Jaguar took big risks with the X-Type along with spending a ton of money getting it going. Things aren't looking too positive for the car.

Bet you could get a hell of a deal on one right now.

Reuters / January 28, 2003

LONDON -- Ford Motor Co.'s Jaguar UK automobile plant is to suspend production of its X-type model for up to three weeks because global economic and political uncertainty has cut sales, the Guardian newspaper said on Tuesday.

Jaguar Corporate affairs manager David Crisp told the newspaper the aim was to redress an imbalance between production and stock levels.

"We are operating in a very competitive market and there is an increasing uncertainty in global markets," he said. "The situation with Iraq does not help."

Jaguar's Halewood plant in Merseyside, Liverpool, introduced a number of four-day weeks last year, the newspaper said, adding that the February shutdown would affect 2,400 workers.

Jaguar officials were not immediately available for comment.

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I think this is a sign of things to come... Maybe not this drastic, but if you thought you could get a deal on a car in 2002, I think 2003 will be even better.

Car manufacturers are gonna be hurting this year, IMHO.

 

I guess that's why Ford/Jaguar has been advertising it so much as of late.

The news statement is typical British. They always need to blame something/someone for their own shortcomings.

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I travel back and forth to the UK a lot (and my sister lives there). Don't get me wrong, I like the UK, but there are certain English mannerisms that really irk me. The one for today is 'the blame game.'

In the US - say something isn't done. We'll say, 'tough shit', or 'I fucked up', or JUST FIX THE PROBLEM and go on with life.

In the UK when something doesn't happen they will explain to you how it really isn't their fault and someone else really should be blamed. The focus on the blame, and not the solution. Case in point: I was on a train that got cancelled at Paddington. Instead of saying, 'The train is cancelled, we're settiing up another one now to get you from A to B,' they say, 'Sorry. Mr So-and-so train conductor man called in sick today with the flu.'

As the consumer, I don't care why the problem occured. I just want it fixed. I'm interested in the goal or the outcome (ie: the future), not in blaming something for the problem and wallowing around.
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The idea that the impending war in Iraq has something to do with a Ford Taurus not selling well is silly. Sure, consumer buying may be down, but maybe the problem is with the actual product and not the consumer.

 

this is good news that thing was a disgrace to the jaguar line, all fords influence

 

what not enough gay men out there?

 

Since stopping production is like putting a finger in the dyke maybe they should try advertising to lezbians. Get it?

 

X-type is horrible and wAAAAAAY overpriced. Like 46k loaded, are they nuts. Ya'll think the CL has issues, try a x-type forum.

 

Since it's Ford, maybe 2 fingers in the dyke.

 

nothing but a rebadged P.O.S. Contour/Mondeo

 

I happen to like the X-Type! It is a beautiful car! Problems? Isn't that what Jaguar is all about? I wouldn't buy one, but I sure do admire them....and no I am not gay

 

I saw a lack of success coming, but didn't think they would suspend production! That is preety drastic for a second year car. Sucks for the people that work at that plant.

 

The X-Type is a good car (the Mondeo happens to be a good roadcar), its just really overpriced.....that's the issue. An acquaintance of mine (we don't really hang out with him because he's a little ghetto) has a 3.0 X-Type manual. Its a nice car, quick, quality is good- solid, no exhaust systems falling off, interior is nice.

Problem is that while the X-Type is a good car, its not any better than the competition and its more expensive (MSRP wise).

One strong point of the X-Type is their lease programs, you can get a hell of a deal on one. Which makes sense, the car is overpriced and Jaguar can subsidize the leases and still make money.

 

My GF and I looked at the X-Type because of the subsidized lease deals they were offering. It really is a nice looking car. The options ramp up the price quickly, almost exponentially.

All I know is that they are going to be a whole lot of off-lease X-Types flooding the market in 2~3 years.

 

My thoughts exactly. I considered the X-type during my car search that ended with the CL-S purchase. Ultimately, I did not want a four door and I too thought that it's competitors had more to offer for the $$.

 

Yes, the Mondeo is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the contour and they should sell that car here instead of the Taurus.

I previously thought Jag was kinda an exclusive car to buy but the S-type and X-type are not Jags at all.

BTW, the new XJ is TOO HARD and weighs 800lbs LESS than the old car!

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHA ZING!

I remember that thread about their homo-market targetting.

 

isnt x-type built with ford taurus chassis? think i heard that somewhere.....

 

no....the answer lies in this thread...which u didn't read

 

Sales are down, time to up the “Jags for FAGS” AD campaign.
I hear they’re coming out with sales brochures showing DETAILED photos of 47 different male/male sexual positions possible in the “rear” seat of the X-Type.

Anyone requesting the flyer ??

Shawn S



PS……..

 

X-Type - will and never would = XJS

 

My mom ownes one, she pays 430/month lease and left 2500 down, not a bad deal if you ask me. Especially in the snow, you can not go wrong for a AWD car.

 

New Jag Gay ad campaign :

"Sales are soft, hard men wanted" or

"Come on men, we're dropping our pants AND our prices"

 

LOL at the "finger in the dyke" reference.

This car was pure crap (esp. for a Jaguar) and you could see Ford Taurus written all over it. I test drove the 4cl model early on and thought I could get out and walk faster.

 

 

Hmmmmmmm........ Maybe that's why they started the whole gay advertising campaign?

 

The fit finish & refinement of my SVT Contour couldn't hold a candle to my CL-S but it was more stable at triple digit speeds & quicker from 110-140mph.
It was easy to top out, but the manual trans was obviously geared shorter.
I don't think 5th was that tall & 4th was close to 1:1


What do they give you on the residual when the lease is up though ??

 

I have no idea, but the advantage of subsidized leases is in the monthly payments....it usually doesn't pay to buy the car in the end due to the high residual put on the vehicle.

 

Mondeo/Contour use same powertrains & chassis.
Even shared some body panels in the late 90's.

It's really more like the step up to the TL/CL from the Accord.

Ford started to seriously decontent the Contour in the mid-90's while continuing to add features to the strong selling Mondeo in Europe.
I don't know if the 3.0L is offered in the Mondeo now but seems like that might undermine X type sales some. (sound familiar?)

I'm sure the X type has a stiffer chassis now, hell the Couger was like 30% stiffer than the Contour, but your still using the Escape/Tribute AWD system.
Maybe that says more about those "SUV's" than it does the Jag

 

I'm just curious, I've never leased a car but a buddy of mine & I have been talking mini-vans lately
(I know, we both have growing families though & it's what the wives want anyway... )

He was talking to a Honda dealer about leasing an Odyssey & just for grins he went to see what it would cost to lease a Grand Caravan, the crappy Chrysler was like 2k cheaper but the lease payments where higher because they where having to account for so much more depreciation than the Honda. The Odyssey had a much higher residual & therefore the monthly payment would be less.

Funny how that stuff works out sometimes.

 

Yup, that's usually how it goes....American car residuals are typically not as high as Foreign makes. One of the few American cars that has had a strong residual for years is the Corvette C5.

Sometimes American cars have good lease programs due to them being subsidized. More often than not though, the lease deals usually suck.