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Old 04-19-2001, 02:47 PM
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Isn't today the day we here about the guy with the 3.5L upgrade kit?

I can't wait to see how it performs

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actaully i get it friday cuz they have to do some dyno runs

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mchtypeS:
actaully i get it friday cuz they have to do some dyno runs

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mchtypeS:
actaully i get it friday cuz they have to do some dyno runs

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do you have all the emblems on the back 3.2 cl type S????if so you need to go buy the 3.5 emblem from rl or mdx wich ever is closest if theres even a difference...IMO that should be apart of the upgrade(the emblem package)

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by typeR:
Originally posted by mchtypeS:
actaully i get it friday cuz they have to do some dyno runs

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do you have all the emblems on the back 3.2 cl type S????if so you need to go buy the 3.5 emblem from rl or mdx wich ever is closest if theres even a difference...IMO that should be apart of the upgrade(the emblem package)
I agree, having that 3.5 on your trunnk would be sweet and definitely let peeps know you got more ponies under your hood.

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Old 04-19-2001, 06:38 PM
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Gawd I love your passion with this car!!! Let us all know ASAP, OK?

Just a quick question: With all the time and money spent on your CL, why not get an 01 M3? I know, I know.....heresy to mention the "B" word here, but still.....

Anyhow, awesome stuff!



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Old 04-19-2001, 06:40 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Satin01CL:
mchtypeS:

Gawd I love your passion with this car!!! Let us all know ASAP, OK?

Just a quick question: With all the time and money spent on your CL, why not get an 01 M3? I know, I know.....heresy to mention the "B" word here, but still.....

Anyhow, awesome stuff!

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Man...that's alot of money invested just for .3L increase. I hope you get aleast 50 hp out of it, but I highly doubt it.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mchtypeS:
actaully i get it friday cuz they have to do some dyno runs

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 1max2nv:
Man...that's alot of money invested just for .3L increase. I hope you get aleast 50 hp out of it, but I highly doubt it.


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I believe with the headers and intake in addition to the .3L increase the hp increase is 55.. but the biggest gain will be in torque (that is what I read). SO basically the .3L adds like 20hp on top of the headers (30hp) and CAI (~5hp)

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Old 04-19-2001, 07:27 PM
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This would be exciting how this upgrade would increase the hp&trq. Keep us updated MCHTYPES of your 3.2CL ohhh my mistake 3.5CL Type S....

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Being the skeptic that I am I have to ask this question.

How do you expect to increase .3 liters out of a block that's already seen a .2 increase, cause this engine is the 3.0 v6 out of the CL and accord V6.

The block on the J engine isn't that big, and the engine itself is a compact v6. I really don't see how u are going to pull this off.

Boring out .05 liters out of each cylinder wall is... sounding like ur going to be skating on this ice. And what pistions are you goin to use? Or are you just going to increase the stroke on the 3.2? Actually increasing the stroke from a 3.2 to a 3.5 isn't feasable... maybe a .2 increase.

What are you going to get new pistons and increase ur stroke?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CLTypeR:
Being the skeptic that I am I have to ask this question.

How do you expect to increase .3 liters out of a block that's already seen a .2 increase, cause this engine is the 3.0 v6 out of the CL and accord V6.

The block on the J engine isn't that big, and the engine itself is a compact v6. I really don't see how u are going to pull this off.

Boring out .05 liters out of each cylinder wall is... sounding like ur going to be skating on this ice. And what pistions are you goin to use? Or are you just going to increase the stroke on the 3.2? Actually increasing the stroke from a 3.2 to a 3.5 isn't feasable... maybe a .2 increase.

What are you going to get new pistons and increase ur stroke?

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Take a look at mchtypeS' signature.

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its not bored its stoked do a search do the research and you'll find 50ft.lbs of bad boy waiting to be unleashed on unsuspecting victims BTW to he who mentioned the M3 i think the point to doing stuff like this is not to be so obvious...an M3 is supposed to be fast ...cobra...corvette...but an acura that can hang with these guys even alittle is gonna be a big blow to there ego fragile as they must be to start with

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Look at the lower right hand of the picture in mchtypsS''s sig... the photopoint one. Is that a Mustang's headlight? Its pretty sad if I can tell a car by looking at a lousy quality picture (no offense) and a peice of headlight.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CLTypeR:
Being the skeptic that I am I have to ask this question.

How do you expect to increase .3 liters out of a block that's already seen a .2 increase, cause this engine is the 3.0 v6 out of the CL and accord V6.

The block on the J engine isn't that big, and the engine itself is a compact v6. I really don't see how u are going to pull this off.

Boring out .05 liters out of each cylinder wall is... sounding like ur going to be skating on this ice. And what pistions are you goin to use? Or are you just going to increase the stroke on the 3.2? Actually increasing the stroke from a 3.2 to a 3.5 isn't feasable... maybe a .2 increase.

What are you going to get new pistons and increase ur stroke?

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The 3.5 is stroked with the MDX crank, rods, and special pistons. It is NOT bored out.

Generaly speaking, increasing the stroke, increases torque (and also piston speed).



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Interesting.... but.... ok.... the MDX is a 3.5. Wow. I know it's the same block too. Good luck.. It shouldn't be that hard a conversion than. Pretty much bolt on.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scorpius:
Look at the lower right hand of the picture in mchtypsS''s sig... the photopoint one. Is that a Mustang's headlight? Its pretty sad if I can tell a car by looking at a lousy quality picture (no offense) and a peice of headlight.

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your wrong thats not a mustang your way off that is my friends white civic with eyelids



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Wbo cares!! Did you get your car back yet??

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mchtypeS:
Originally posted by Scorpius:
Look at the lower right hand of the picture in mchtypsS''s sig... the photopoint one. Is that a Mustang's headlight? Its pretty sad if I can tell a car by looking at a lousy quality picture (no offense) and a peice of headlight.

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your wrong thats not a mustang your way off that is my friends white civic with eyelids



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naw not yet there waiting for a part to arrive some gasket hopefully later on today ill keep u guys posted trust me i want my car back already

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I'll bet you want your car back!

Here's a thought though, they want you to break it in like new but they're going to put it on a dyno and run it redline how many times??
If it was me I'd break it in and then let them dyno it.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
I'll bet you want your car back!

Here's a thought though, they want you to break it in like new but they're going to put it on a dyno and run it redline how many times??
If it was me I'd break it in and then let them dyno it.

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Mike,
We flash a program and head to the Dyno to validate the install is within tollerances expected. This is done after an abbreviated in shop break-in cycle and ~ 50 miles of city B4 Dyno time. MchTypeS is behind schedule due to a mislabeled throttle gasket that didn't arrive till lunch. As of 5PM, the shop run cycle was being completed and we hope to Dyno Sat AM or Mon AM. I know that you are all anxious to hear and see the results, but patience is a virtue and he is driving around a Type-S so he is not too inconvenienced (except for color!)
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Good enough and thanks for the update!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by syncivic:
Mike,
We flash a program and head to the Dyno to validate the install is within tollerances expected. This is done after an abbreviated in shop break-in cycle and ~ 50 miles of city B4 Dyno time. MchTypeS is behind schedule due to a mislabeled throttle gasket that didn't arrive till lunch. As of 5PM, the shop run cycle was being completed and we hope to Dyno Sat AM or Mon AM. I know that you are all anxious to hear and see the results, but patience is a virtue and he is driving around a Type-S so he is not too inconvenienced (except for color!)
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A quick question, which I may of missed before. With the increase in displacement how are the fueling issues being met.

In a Mass control situation the point is moot. But considering that our cars use a speed density system, the PCM has no idea on the 'new' required pulse width. If you increase displacement, naturally more fuel will be needed.

Is a rising rate FPR being incorporated, because the stock 1:1 unit won't cut it. Secondly, it still doesn’t meet fuel trim issues. From what I know there are no PCM mods available unless you have come up with them. But PCM mods would certainly solve this issue...
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