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04-10-2005, 08:30 PM
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Intercooler Available
I have decided I will build some more intercoolers for those desiring them. But this is only if I get at least five committed. The good part is that this five minimum can be a mix of J32A2 and the AV6 J30A1. Yes, the 2000 – 2002 AV6 will be supported and included in this build.
I need to change the structure some though concerning the components supplied. I don’t have the time to acquire all if the supplemental parts such as the reservoir, pump, etc. I can supply the E-Manage but it could be sourced by the individual for a little less. I will also offer the PnP harness to ease the installation.
A full definition of the parts supplied will be supplied upon determining interest. I will also supply a list of vendors and part numbers to source the accessory components.
What will be included are the IC/Manifold assembly, intake pipe and couplings. I will also supply the mounting bolts for the base and cover. The price for the IC assembly will be $1450.00
Also available will be the E-Manage PnP harness built to each car as needed. This does not include the E-manage and support tool. I will need your Main harness from the E-Manage to complete the build. This does include the Injector and Ignition harness though. Cost for this is $300.
As mentioned, I’ll build a list of needed parts and possible suppliers for those interested. I estimate the final tally for the complete system to be in the $2500+ range.
Just let me know who is interested and if there are any questions.
I need to change the structure some though concerning the components supplied. I don’t have the time to acquire all if the supplemental parts such as the reservoir, pump, etc. I can supply the E-Manage but it could be sourced by the individual for a little less. I will also offer the PnP harness to ease the installation.
A full definition of the parts supplied will be supplied upon determining interest. I will also supply a list of vendors and part numbers to source the accessory components.
What will be included are the IC/Manifold assembly, intake pipe and couplings. I will also supply the mounting bolts for the base and cover. The price for the IC assembly will be $1450.00
Also available will be the E-Manage PnP harness built to each car as needed. This does not include the E-manage and support tool. I will need your Main harness from the E-Manage to complete the build. This does include the Injector and Ignition harness though. Cost for this is $300.
As mentioned, I’ll build a list of needed parts and possible suppliers for those interested. I estimate the final tally for the complete system to be in the $2500+ range.
Just let me know who is interested and if there are any questions.
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Nice work Steve.
Unfortunately i've decided to move on from the CL. My IC setup was never installed but it has been sold and has found its way to a good home on the West Coast.
Unfortunately i've decided to move on from the CL. My IC setup was never installed but it has been sold and has found its way to a good home on the West Coast.
04-11-2005, 07:26 PM
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Will pass along to J30 fellas, now I wonder if they can walk their talk
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04-13-2005, 10:49 PM
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How many takers so far Scalbert? With the WHP this mod adds to the SC kit, $ per HP is reasonable. With 91 octane gas, I've been limited so I'm hoping this will open up oportunities for me.
04-14-2005, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Allout
How many takers so far Scalbert? With the WHP this mod adds to the SC kit, $ per HP is reasonable. With 91 octane gas, I've been limited so I'm hoping this will open up oportunities for me.
04-14-2005, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
<-- No supercharger yet 
Scalbert I was wondering... I might go this route, but so far wanna get my car re-dyno'd since I can hear some pinging in the engine. Wanted to ask is it worth the cost of purchasing an e-manage prior to getting the IC, to tune the car properly??? Secondly with the list of parts and suppliers, I might have to find them locally since any imported will have to be dealt with canadian customs and duties + taxes...
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why not the 1998-2002 AV6's? the 98 and 99 are the same engine right? Same as the First gen CL's, so wouldn't this work for the first gen also?
My major question for this is whether it will work with a turbo instead of a SC. I mean it makes a lot more sense to me to have the IM-style IC instead of the typical FMIC that you see with aftermarket turbo's. it would require less "space" to be filled with the air, so maximum boost would be aquire much quicker, right?
is there something with these IC's that would make them not work as well as an FMIC with a turbo, or would they be just as efficient as with a SC?
My major question for this is whether it will work with a turbo instead of a SC. I mean it makes a lot more sense to me to have the IM-style IC instead of the typical FMIC that you see with aftermarket turbo's. it would require less "space" to be filled with the air, so maximum boost would be aquire much quicker, right?
is there something with these IC's that would make them not work as well as an FMIC with a turbo, or would they be just as efficient as with a SC?
04-14-2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
why not the 1998-2002 AV6's? the 98 and 99 are the same engine right? Same as the First gen CL's, so wouldn't this work for the first gen also?
My major question for this is whether it will work with a turbo instead of a SC. I mean it makes a lot more sense to me to have the IM-style IC instead of the typical FMIC that you see with aftermarket turbo's. it would require less "space" to be filled with the air, so maximum boost would be aquire much quicker, right?
is there something with these IC's that would make them not work as well as an FMIC with a turbo, or would they be just as efficient as with a SC?
My major question for this is whether it will work with a turbo instead of a SC. I mean it makes a lot more sense to me to have the IM-style IC instead of the typical FMIC that you see with aftermarket turbo's. it would require less "space" to be filled with the air, so maximum boost would be aquire much quicker, right?
is there something with these IC's that would make them not work as well as an FMIC with a turbo, or would they be just as efficient as with a SC?
The IC would work fine with a turbo, some stock turbo vehicles have had liquid/air IC systems. However, if you plan on road racing the vehicle then a liquid/air system is not ideal. If you plan to drive it on the street or at the strip then it can be better in soem ways. It all depends on the application.
04-14-2005, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
0 so far and that was about two under what I thought would surface.
I was bugging you about it a month ago but I stumbled upon one for sale last week...
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oh I see, so an FMIC is better for "long" races, where the turbo will be working quite a bit whereas the top mount IC is better for "short bursts"?
well, I'll be getting a promotion in about a month which will definitely make this more affordable to me, but atm I am not in the shape to buy this. Will this offer still stand in a month or two, or will the offer close if you don't get enough people within a certain amount of time?
I'll be putting this on my daily driver, so at most it will be in the occasional "acceleration contest" on the street, and at the track sometimes too. Would your IC setup be best for my application, or will an FMIC still be the OVERALL best decision for a turbo?
thanks in advance for your expert advice scalbert.
well, I'll be getting a promotion in about a month which will definitely make this more affordable to me, but atm I am not in the shape to buy this. Will this offer still stand in a month or two, or will the offer close if you don't get enough people within a certain amount of time?
I'll be putting this on my daily driver, so at most it will be in the occasional "acceleration contest" on the street, and at the track sometimes too. Would your IC setup be best for my application, or will an FMIC still be the OVERALL best decision for a turbo?
thanks in advance for your expert advice scalbert.
04-14-2005, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
0 so far and that was about two under what I thought would surface.
04-14-2005, 08:18 PM
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All New Factory Supercharged cars are Intercooled...
Anyone whos know anything about forced induction knows that FI lessens the life on the top end of your motor.
You do not need to run 9lbs of boost... you can keep the stock jack shaft pulley on.
The intercooler will HELP preserve the wear and tear on your motor.
Heat kills a motor.. and when you Force the induction, there is alot more heat.
Just an FYI, not trying to push a product, but it is a smart move if your are supercharged to get an intercooler.
Anyone whos know anything about forced induction knows that FI lessens the life on the top end of your motor.
You do not need to run 9lbs of boost... you can keep the stock jack shaft pulley on.
The intercooler will HELP preserve the wear and tear on your motor.
Heat kills a motor.. and when you Force the induction, there is alot more heat.
Just an FYI, not trying to push a product, but it is a smart move if your are supercharged to get an intercooler.
04-14-2005, 08:24 PM
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this is a good deal, the intercooler for my porsche, just the rad part, was $5000. 
04-14-2005, 09:38 PM
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Too lazy to search but I think Scalbert had a dyno of 370whp. How would it be possible to raise that to 400whp. Without using nitrous and running a max. of 93 octane. I am interested but just want to be at or above the 400whp mark. Maybe if there was a link with all the IC info like how much higher is it, dynos, if CT strut bar fits w/ it and other components.
After there is 5 people how long before we can get it.
Scalbert if you can hit me up on AIM under HabibUrPimp cuz I have a few questions.
After there is 5 people how long before we can get it.
Scalbert if you can hit me up on AIM under HabibUrPimp cuz I have a few questions.
04-18-2005, 10:36 PM
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Steve, Glad to see your offering this for the guys that may want it. 
Great product offered from a great individual!!!
Great product offered from a great individual!!!
04-21-2005, 06:33 AM
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As of right now we don't have enough to move forward. The AV6 guys disappeared and there is not enough J32A2 interest to make the move.
As for payment, I was accepting Paypal as the general method. At this time I would expect about two months to get them. And yes, it was to be 50% at the start and 50% at shipment.
As for payment, I was accepting Paypal as the general method. At this time I would expect about two months to get them. And yes, it was to be 50% at the start and 50% at shipment.
04-21-2005, 10:11 AM
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Seems AV6 guys just making excuses for either spending already on something else or not ready yet for whatever reason. Why am I not suprised, well I'm not going to facilitate it again 
, despite posted thread on V6P with enough details.
, despite posted thread on V6P with enough details.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Two months is quite long plus until we get more interested, which wont be anytime soon by looks of it.
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Steve is a busy man with work and the twins. Also finding time to get these to the welder and into production seemed to be the biggest delay on the last batch.
2 months doesn't sound too bad.
2 months doesn't sound too bad.
04-21-2005, 10:28 PM
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= add me to the list... IC + SC + 3 pedals > IC + SC + 2 pedals
My CL days are far from over
04-24-2005, 01:50 AM
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scalbert .. im lost ... i thought fmic were only operable on a turbo or centrifical supercharged car ....
is what your producing an aftercooler?
is what your producing an aftercooler?
04-24-2005, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Hurleysurf24
scalbert .. im lost ... i thought fmic were only operable on a turbo or centrifical supercharged car ....
is what your producing an aftercooler?
is what your producing an aftercooler?
its not a fmic, its a top mount, its also liquid-air, not air-air
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Originally Posted by Hurleysurf24
is what your producing an aftercooler?
Oh and a front mount could, and has, been applied to the Comptech style SC on a CL-S.
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