I want to not peel out any more!!!
I am tired of peeling out. I keep loosing races because I just sit there and spin my tires. I know this has been talked about many times. What do you guys recommend for the most grip?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker: I am tired of peeling out. I keep loosing races because I just sit there and spin my tires. I know this has been talked about many times. What do you guys recommend for the most grip?</font> By the way these are the two tires I was thinking about. Let me know your thoughts on them. Pirelli PZero System Asimmetrico Size:235/40-17 Yokohama AVS Sport Size:235/40-17 |
Webtoker,
Have you tried using the D1->D2 shift followed by D3? With this method you can partially applied throttle to allow the tire to hook up without spinning prior to flooring it. This method also will bypass the automatic 1-2 shift that can occur with partial throttle, thus bogging your car. ------------------ Frank 01-S White/Parchment Comptech Sways & Springs |
I was thinking about getting the Toyo T1S, Bridgestone Potenza RE730, Yokohama Parada or Kumho Ecsta Supra 712. Still looking for now, lets us know what ya decide.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker: By the way these are the two tires I was thinking about. Let me know your thoughts on them. Pirelli PZero System Asimmetrico Size:235/40-17 Yokohama AVS Sport Size:235/40-17 </font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FDao: Webtoker, Have you tried using the D1->D2 shift followed by D3? With this method you can partially applied throttle to allow the tire to hook up without spinning prior to flooring it. This method also will bypass the automatic 1-2 shift that can occur with partial throttle, thus bogging your car. </font> exaactly what he said, hey why not 235/45? toker I finally got NTFSDOS pro. the WRITE version http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif ------------------ CL-S White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6. Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams. me. gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader. |
Nova,
Hook it up. I need to access NTFS thorugh DOS. Spiro ------------------ Black/Black 2001 CL-S RED AEM CAI Polarg M6 Roadlamps |
either get the kumho's or the nitto 555;'s
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by deadlyCL-S: either get the kumho's or the nitto 555;'s</font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker: By the way these are the two tires I was thinking about. Let me know your thoughts on them. Pirelli PZero System Asimmetrico Size:235/40-17 Yokohama AVS Sport Size:235/40-17 </font> PZero, Pole Positions or Pilot Sports. All mega bank but well worth it. |
The pilot sports look like sticky tires, but i'd like to talk to someone that has them first ($250ish a piece).
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Closer: Skip the yokohamas. Go for either the PZero, Pole Positions or Pilot Sports. All mega bank but well worth it. </font> Whats wrong with the Yokohamas? |
Pilot Sports were the best performance tire I've owned. A few of my friend will only get Pilots Sports also.
Tires tried. Pirelli P7000 Yokohama AVS Sports (3) Pilot Sports (1) Pole Positions (2) Yokohama A032r's Pradas AVS Intermediates This is how I'd rate em. Pilots seemed a little bit more comfortable and quiter than the Pole Positions. Ever driven an M3. That's a good feel for Pilot Sports. |
One of my friends quote.
"For straight performance between AVS & Pilot sports, Pilots are much better. The AVS are great tires, but since I drove both of them back to back, the differences were easy to tell. AVS is a harder compound and had about the same traction in wet. On dry, they are not as sticky and is easier to slide my rear out with the AVS. Cornering at the limits are a little more scarier on the AVS. Pilots were very predictable and gave good warning before reaching the limit(which was still further than the AVS)." |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Closer: Pilot Sports were the best performance tire I've owned. A few of my friend will only get Pilots Sports also. Tires tried. Pirelli P7000 Yokohama AVS Sports (3) Pilot Sports (1) Pole Positions (2) Yokohama A032r's Pradas AVS Intermediates This is how I'd rate em. Pilots seemed a little bit more comfortable and quiter than the Pole Positions. Ever driven an M3. That's a good feel for Pilot Sports.</font> See the problem is that the Yokohama AVS Sports are more in my price range. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spiroh: Nova, Hook it up. I need to access NTFS thorugh DOS. Spiro </font> you've got mail http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif ------------------ CL-S White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6. Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams. me. gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader. |
Hi Hi,
Dunlop SP5000 will be my next choice due to the snowing condition in winter; otherwise, Bridgestone RE730 will be my call. ------------------ E50 3.0CL Razo shift Knob / Pedals Eibach springs 17' Momo wheels with 235/40/17 Bridgestone Potenza S02 |
I got the Nitto 235/40/18 for only $151 each.
Very nice deal, the Nitto will stick like a glue. Toyo T1-S may be better but cost some 195-215 each. ------------------ Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV. - 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood) - Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor - Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner - Valentine V1 Radar Locator - HELMS Service Manual - PIAA 19169 road lamps - 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI - 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks [This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-19-2001).] |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk: I got the Nitto 235/40/18 for only $151 each. Very nice deal, the Nitto will stick like a glue. Toyo T1-S may be better but cost some 195-215 each. </font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker: Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk: I got the Nitto 235/40/18 for only $151 each. Very nice deal, the Nitto will stick like a glue. Toyo T1-S may be better but cost some 195-215 each. </font> ------------------ Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV. - 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood) - Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor - Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner - Valentine V1 Radar Locator - HELMS Service Manual - PIAA 19169 road lamps - 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI - 04/13/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5, +45 offset, Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks |
I have the PZeros on my M3 (the ones with the cool little yellow 'P-Zero' on the sidewall). Trust me, these tires will not 'GRAB' the street when its wet. I would recommend the Toyo tires (cheap and great grip). I couldn't get Toyo tires because my rim/tire setup could only use the PZero system http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/frown.gif. Plus the PZeros are very expensive!
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The Potenza RE730 are fucking awesome. They stick like glue. They're almost as good in every category as the P2s and cost about $60-80 less. Not to mention a 300 treadwear rating.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tel1sps: I was thinking about getting the Toyo T1S, Bridgestone Potenza RE730, Yokohama Parada or Kumho Ecsta Supra 712. Still looking for now, lets us know what ya decide. </font> ------------------ 2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation Black Tint all around (15%~45%) Weapon-R Dragon Filter Weapon-R Coil-Overs Koni Adjustable Struts Comptech Sway Bars Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!) |
I think everyone knows what I like, but there is something getting missed here.
Depending on the surface, concrete, wet, dry, track, dragstrip, etc, different tires will work better than others. Toker -- if you are really serious about the "track" -- get some "R" rated rubber. If you really want to stick for forward direction, get something for just that application. I'd tell you to get the Toyo's in 17 inch, but I don't know if your trying to make a take off on a rubber covered drag slip or what. Can you clarify your needs... Like, dragstrip, steet-racing, acceleration only, or acceleration and cornering, etc. It is not day and night. It is like the comment about the P-Zeros, I keep hearing about how great they are in the dry, but suck in the rain. If you don't care about the wet, get the stickiest tire for dry you can get, with a real soft compound. If you could still get them, the old RE-71 "R" rated proxies would probably put a smile on your face, they were so sticky that you could pick up gravel. You would also need to "Tape-up" the inside of your wheel wells from all the stuff the tires would fling at the inside of the "wells". -- good luck -- ------------------ Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
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Nova,
Thanks!!!! Spiro ------------------ Black/Black 2001 CL-S RED AEM CAI Polarg M6 Roadlamps |
My main concern is griping on the streets and at the drag strip. I am not to concerned about about wet performance. I would like good cornering though. I for sure want to keep the price under 200 per tire.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spiroh: Nova, Thanks!!!! Spiro </font> ------------------ CL-S White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6. Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams. me. gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader. |
toker, basically, my only advice is not to get anything with a treadwear rating BELOW 300.
the only REGRET people get from buying tires, is that most of them will only last you 12 months of driving, or if you live with snow, 2 seasons of no snow driving. ALL my friends ONLY Get NITTO's over the net, cause its treadwear is 320!!! which is i think the best numbers, as long as the tire itself being AWSOME tires, and like posted before, you will not peel. ALSO, they are under 150 a tire. Most people dont get them cause the price being so cheap, scares them away, but their all wrong! Just like the CL-S, its FULLY LOADED, but its also not expensive.. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by deadlyCL-S: ALL my friends ONLY Get NITTO's over the net, cause its treadwear is 320!!! which is i think the best numbers, as long as the tire itself being AWSOME tires, and like posted before, you will not peel. ALSO, they are under 150 a tire. </font> ------------------ 2001 Silver 3.2CLS Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178, Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers:D Planning: SSR 17X8 Competition Wheels, Brembo Brakes. |
someone posted earlier in this thread you dont, i dont have nittos, my friends do, though my friends dont hace CL-S's.
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I'm telling you RE730s....the best bang for the buck. If everyone on the board agrees that P2s are the best, then the RE730 is second place (magazine test, and my own testimonial...) and is a better value at less than $200 a pair for 225/45/17. And did I mention treadwear of 300???
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker: My main concern is griping on the streets and at the drag strip. I am not to concerned about about wet performance. I would like good cornering though. I for sure want to keep the price under 200 per tire.</font> You might want to try out Clpower's suggestion of the Nitto 555Rs (drag radials). AND ask the guys AT YOUR DRAG STRIP. The problem is, everybody has their favorite, and I don't get any "peel" with the Toyo's. But, surfaces and conditions vary (anybody who tells you different is full of it). So, if you want max stick at the track, you will have to go with a good front-rear contact patch (maybe 17") and find some long wearing "R" rated rubber. Since you don't care about the rain, look for a tire with minimal "voids". You want something that looks as close to a slick as you can get (more rubber). Have a look at these reviews: Toyo T1S (you will find me in here) 5 stars: http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tir...uct_1161.shtml Nitto NT-555R 5 stars: http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tir...uct_1149.shtml Nitton NT-555 4.2 stars: Note: a reviewer compares the 555s to the Pilots and all the other stuff mentioned here, and only the Toyos compare... http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tir...uct_1147.shtml Kumho V700 (race rubber) Kevin -- the guy with the Brembo uses these on the track (won't last very long at all!!!!) 5 stars: http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tir...ct_47976.shtml The Michelin Pilots -- there are some problems (squeal/sidewall rolls over/expensive) 4.2 stars: http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tir...uct_1145.shtml Bridgestone S-02PPs (great stick and $$$) 4.2 stars: http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tir...uct_1120.shtml Bridgestone RE-730s 4.56 stars: http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tir...ct_47963.shtml You can find the Pirellis and a bunch of other stuff at the main page link: http://www.carreview.com/reviews/tires/ As I said, until some one does a test of all of these tires, on a variety of surfaces, everybody will tell you what they like (maybe what they don't like). Every tire works differently depending on how the suspension holds it on the ground. So, look around... If your willing to give up some tire life, you might want to think about the Nitto 555R. (These are sticky, but will last about 1/2 as long as the 300 rated tires). Get the "R" rated tires if you don't care if want the best possible grip on the planet (they are generally only 40 rated, so plan on having a short, fun, time...) ------------------ Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
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