civicdrivr

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Got the slips, hes on the right:



And this was his best 60' time:



Those runs were on June 12th, the fastest was at 7:38pm, the best 60' time was at 8:19pm. According to weather.com, the high for that day was 85* with a low of 54*.

AnthraciteTypeS

Just me or is that kinda slow for a 150 pill, i'd expect over 110mph traps easily. I'm hoping to trap 104 n/a after I get my new heads on with some more goodies

Sonnick

Yea I was looking at the Colorado temps, weird...some of the day was like 40 and then it rose to mid 80s, wtf?

I put it in Dragtimes and looked under the "Extensively Modified S/C-T/C vehicles and the DA corrected time was 12.50 @ 111.45. Under "extensively modified NA" it's 12.0 @ 115.74. I think it'd be closer to mid 12s @ 111-113. That's more along the lines of what I was expecting. That car in the 2nd timeslip depending on how extensively modified, is a low-mid 11s car @ 118-124 Thanks for the slips Morgan, they definitely explain it and tell him good job! WUT lol.

What mods do you have?

I can't believe the OP's stock motor drank 22 bottles on a 150 shot plus (I forget, 5?) bottles on a 188 shot. That's pretty crazy.

1foxbody

Now maybe you guys will believe I will reach my goals lol!!!

civicdrivr

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As I keep telling Fries, the numbers are impressive for being at altitude, now come down to sea level and put down the calculated numbers

Launching will still be a manage issue, but I want to see you do it. But you dont have much longer to cash in on those bets. IIRC they expire in August.

1foxbody

If worst comes to worst I'll go to the track without the new clutch setup, aluminum flywheel, and axles just in time for that bet lol. I can probably still hook with those temporary slicks I have.

yungone501

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Oh yeah? Well...um....I just ran a, like maybe a, um....10 second, um, 1/4!!!

13 seconds sucks!!! :-)

So, just got back home from a 2-hour long road trip. What for? How about a smashin' deal on a wet kit for the beast: MDX.

I feel so damn guilty cause here I am supposed to be saving for these customer pistons on the 3.5 and can't stop buying spray equipment for my damn cars! My wife was PISSED when she found out that we were making a trip for this...then really flipped shit when she found out it was going on HER mdx. Hahahaha...luckily I met the guy (Craigslist purchase) in a Walmart parking lot. I one hour free for all changed her mood pretty quick. But then, I ended up (after combining money spent at walmart) not getting such a good deal on the kit.

yungone501

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Now on bottle 11 @ 188hp.

Okay, add that to my previous 23 bottles @ 150hp...

That's 34 bottles of high horsepower (150-188hp) levels using nitrous.

I honestly didn't think I'd get half of that with those numbers on a stock J32A2.

1foxbody

What size are your nitrous and fuel jets? I'm curious...

Atlas.46

Also im curious to who all is still running the stock fpr and fuel pump too. Gathering info right now.. Found several wet kits locally from $150-300+ two had bottle warmers.

Atlas.46

also what are you guys gapping your plugs too?

1foxbody

I'm running the oem fpr and fuel pump lol.

I'm running ngk v power 5791 they are two steps colder than oem plugs. Also stock gap they come out of the box.

Sonnick

I run butt plugs.

Atlas.46

Lol. Sonnick when are you going time spray?

yungone501

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First jet is for the nitrous solenoid: .070



Second jet is for fuel solenoid: .036





Here's a picture I took of my fuel solenoid setup. Im running stock fuel pump, stock fuel pressure regulator as well as factory injectors, fuel rails and lines. I do run a much larger than required fuel solenoid jet because Ive learned that this can offset ignition retard restrictions, high cylinder temperatures and high compression. Ive never observed any issues while running nitrous at these levels on this engiine as well as other motors in the past. Running rich will sacrifice some performance BUT can/will save an engine from numerous hazards.

Atlas.46

Is that a fuel pressure safety switch on the other side if the gauge

1foxbody

What nitrous calculator do you use to get a baseline from? Also does anyone know what our fuel pressure is under wot? I've always just put 40psi to be on the safe side since I'm not 100% sure.

yungone501

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Yes it is. I have it set at 50 psi (this will answer foxbody's question too) before closing because MY tl hits exactly 53 psi @ WOT while above 4200rpms. So it sort of acts like a WOT activation switch in a sense. Most TL's are at 50-55 psi at WOT but that number WILL change (go lower) if you're using stock fuel pump and regulator due to the added demand from the fuel solenoid or ECM richened fuel trim (wet or dry nitrous kit). Knowing what psi your fuel system drops to during nitrous use at WOT is critical when calculating jet sizes. Most people fail to realize this and end up running their motors lean when spraying. Especially those not running an AFR gauge...yes, some actually do that!

As for my preferred jet calculator, I use this: http://www.robietherobot.com/NitrousJetCalculator.htm

Sonnick

I'd love to spray but know I'd abuse it. I'm not gonna lie I've been thinking about it though after seeing all of this...I wanna finish the full bolt on setup first and get tuned. I'll think about the possibilities of spray after that is finished.

The real question is when are YOU gonna spray?

Atlas.46

i would like to do the ported runners/ported manifold first... ::cough cough:: Also waiting for you to buy the AEM FIC...

Still looking for how people run with returnless systems...

yungone501

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Abuse? Lmao, I have 3 10lb and 1 15lb bottles...that's four bottles at a total of 45lbs. I run through these four bottles in roughly 8 days. Let's just say my nitrous habit is a lot worse than a most crackheads habits! And there's no exaggeration on that at all.

Sonnick

No one's biting on ?

AnthraciteTypeS

Regarding the safety switch, are you saying that you can't/won't spray if the revs are less than 4200rpm? This would mean the pressure would likely be less than 50 right? So what do you do coming out of the hole?

yungone501

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Coming out of the hole hitting nitrous is the WORST thing to do to an engine that isnt made to run nitrous. Even if youre running a manual trans or power braking an auto to a higher rev your MOTOR WILL STILL BOG DOWN at launch and then (for me) 188ft lbs of torque plus the motors natural torque production all goes to the rotating assembly and when youre that low in the rev range, thats brutal and very stressful to those components. Thats why most (if not all) nitrous manufacturers recommend RPM activation switches or (depending on the motor) hitting the button at certain RPMs and above. The ONLY exception for this rule (IMO) is running progressive controllers or pulse-solenoid.

yungone501

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Found a few more shots I thought Id throw on here for the hell of it...



And yes, that is a custom polished (by myself) intake manifold cover that is shined to an absolute mirror finish. Im currently working on painting my engine covers as well....

yungone501

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Ok everyone, as some of you may know, my 3.5 build is just about there. It's time to get a little ballsy here with this stock J32A2 and turn up the volume with the spray...hehehe! Today, I paid $270 at the local performance shop as I decided to increase the amount to a 300hp shot delivered by 2 separate wet nozzles. Yes, I said 300'shot on a STOCK J32A2! This will be around 600hp at the crank. I was reading a few nights ago on the J32 forum about a few guys running upwards of 700-800hp on stock motors at 20psi and running low 10s. And I'm not talking a few passes. I mean weekend warrior, drive it like its stolen, who gives a F*CK if it breaks, all out running these motors style racing too! So I figure, a measly 600hp should last me until the motor is complete. And if it doesn't? Well, I still have my 2007 R1 and my CL to drive until it is finished. Like they say, "it's all in the tune" and this holds true more than any other bit of knowledge on this entire board. There's nothing that breaks parts faster inside of a motor than knock, ping, predetonation, preignition, whatever you wanna call it. So, I'm gonna take a few more protective measures here and install an old meth-kit I have laying around, knock my plugs down another two steps and richen them fuel jets up a little bit on the wet kit and see what happens. I plan on having this installed hopefully by tomorrow night so it will be soon that you guys hear the results. For some reason, after going through the car wash the other day, my AFR gauge stopped working and stays at 14.8 at all times now??? I will try and straighten that out before squeezing the trigger.

1foxbody

Those people that are making those type of numbers are on race gas and have the ability to retard the timing. Those are key factors. I'm not retarding my timing at all either but I think anything around that large of a shot will need the timing retarded. I still say go for it since you don't care about the engine. I'm curious to hear how it reacts lol.

yungone501

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Oh well I missed those two small factors BUT yes, I'm still going with it Fox! Hahahaha...

AnthraciteTypeS

You should hop on the dyno just because. I'd be interested to see the numbers and it's good bragging rights for you as well (Assuming it doesn't grenade lol)

yungone501

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^^^
I've been wanting to do that for so long now but haven't had the time to do so. I work 6 days a week and on Sunday everything is closed. I agree though, this will be fun to watch. I think that I should just keep on climbing until it does break, that way we all know "how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Lollipop"! Lmao, seriously though, why not???

yungone501

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Just got back from taking the 600hp nitrous plunge. I'll tell you what, the transition from 480hp (est) to 600hp (est) really gives this J32 an evil snarling growl that sounds absolutely amazing! Hit the button about 10 times in maybe 10 minutes...took it quite well (or so it seemed) and as always I had my datastream recording for those 10 minutes. No knock detected on 93 pump gas without any meth-kit, timing was adjusting quite well to the added power and never threw any codes. No unusual noises (except that wonderful growl) and the engine pulled so hard it was impressive! I conclude this post in saying that the 300 shot will stay on and as I feel "safe" and "necessary" I will increase the jet size again.

Atlas.46

are you doing a dual stage or just a single shot with dual nozzles? What RPM window are you using it? Also any videos? Going to take it to the track? would like to see the logs too. This thread is bad for me... so many thoughts.

Atlas.46

Did you epoxy/jb weld the nozzle to the intake tube and then strap it with a large zip-tie?

yungone501

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I'm currently running a single stage setup but had I experienced any sort of traction/drivetrain issues I was going to go ahead and do a dual stage system. For the 3.5 I have being built, I will undoubtably use a dual stage irregardless of traction/drivetrain issues I may experience just so it's less stress on the motor itself...not to mention the other obvious things. Also, I'm not currently running any sort of window switch...I see no need to. I never turn on the spray under 4k or above 6.3k rpms. What logs are you talking about...datalogging?

yungone501

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Lol, yes that it is plumbers epoxy and a large zip tie . In this pic, I had went to the track on the previous night and the day of the event the tapped hole for my nozzle had stripped out so...I did what I had to do: emprovize. :-)

I have an AEM cai now so it's all good.

Sonnick

Can't believe you're running a 300 shot lol....Holy crap and kudos.

Any reason why you don't spray over 6300?

yungone501

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^^^
The title of the thread reads "how many bottles does it take to break a J32A2". This is because I was originally going to run a 150 shot all the way out until it did just that...break. But then I figured it would be interesting to see "how much of a shot can a J32A2 take before breaking". In other words, this motor will eventually BREAK. But my overall goal here is to move up slowly (I just made a 120hp jump lmao) and run each specific shot consistently for some length of time before moving up in dosage again. This way we all learn something here. That is at what rating it becomes unsafe to run at. Rather than jumping from 200 to 400 and the large jump immediately breaking the motor we never know what the breaking point was in between that 200hp range difference.

ahxChun

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pretty ballsy jump yungone, lol. going to keep my eye on thread and seen it let loose.

1foxbody

I'm surprised your running such a large shot through one single fogger nozzle. I assumed you added another one for a second stage. Congrats you must have some decent size solenoids and a nice nozzle or just pushing it past the limit lmao.

yungone501

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Bro, I am using two fogger nozzles. I have the NOS Pro Shot nitrous and fuel solenoids rated at 400hp. And as I mentioned, it's all single staged for now. And I need to lean out my mixtures a little bit more as I'm intermittently maxing out my AFR gauge (rich) and happens a lot more when its humid and hot due to the moisture taking the space of oxygen molecules and the less dense air from the heat. By the time I get around to leaning things out, fall will be showing its face.

Interesting note to add before closing: I counted all the receipts of my nitrous fills (there are some with 4 bottles being filled HA) and they summed up to 41 bottles! Holy sh*t man...that's just awesome. Scary part is that's over $1600 in nitrous fills. If my wife knew this she would kick my ass.