be honest, who's CL-S is this?

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Old 01-09-2007 | 12:14 PM
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be honest, who's CL-S is this?

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Old 01-09-2007 | 12:39 PM
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goddamnit that sucks. maybe the CL wasnt racing in sport shift but still.

dont sleep on SHO's i guess. lol
Old 01-09-2007 | 12:49 PM
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I've seen a member in Ramblings that sports an SHO...maybe that's him?
Old 01-09-2007 | 12:57 PM
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what the HEll

This looks completely unbelievable. SHO weighs about the same as CL its HP is 220 HP and CL-S is 260HP. That’s like racing CLP with CLS and CLP winning. That’s bunch of crap. I’ll race my 03 CL-S with that SHO any day and beat it by a mile. CL-S is Fast its just some drivers do not know how to race.

Here is the link to compare the SHO

http://home.pon.net/HUNNICUTT/SHOpage.htm
Old 01-09-2007 | 01:00 PM
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Naw the dude in Car talk has a white one...This CL driver needs to turn in his car for a civic. I understand the SHO is V8 5spd with some power but not to be able to walk a CL like that...
Old 01-09-2007 | 01:09 PM
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maybe the SHO has nos or internal engine work done
Old 01-09-2007 | 01:11 PM
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sound like the typeS has CAI too...

common, whoever you are, start talking. How much did he pay you? explain this tragedy!
Old 01-09-2007 | 01:15 PM
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Did you hear the SHO, it must have more power than just a stock SHO. At the beginnning of the race, when his car downshifted then upshifted again, he chirped his tires. If they started at 25mph, then they must have been going 35-40mph when his car chirped and it shifted.

The SHO has to be modded, but either way, look at that ugly thing. Its hideous.
Old 01-09-2007 | 01:28 PM
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that year SHO had a V6 which was made by yamaha
Old 01-09-2007 | 01:35 PM
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Old 01-09-2007 | 02:04 PM
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IS SHO FWD or RWD ?
Old 01-09-2007 | 02:44 PM
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FWD .. and ugly
Old 01-09-2007 | 03:25 PM
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That SHO definitely didn't seem stock and that CL-S didn't sound like the VTEC was engaging. Also two people in the CL-S obviously if it's being videoed. I've seen articles on the SHO's having internal mods and those things can move. But it is what it is tho, an ugly Ford sedan, I don't care how fast it is.
Old 01-09-2007 | 03:32 PM
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Okay, here's the stock numbers...

1995 Ford Taurus SHO 7.7 15.8
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2002 Acura 3.2CL Type S 6.8 15.0

Just doesn't add up that all that SHO had was a Cat-less Y-Pipe. Either that or the CL-S is a dog because of a slipping tranny or a bad IMRC.
Old 01-09-2007 | 05:00 PM
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Cls

Something is wrong with the CLS. It has to beeee.
Old 01-09-2007 | 07:51 PM
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i got this info on V 6 P

"Stock 175k 3.0 it made 190/185

with a catless ypipe it made 199/193
after a good tune-up (found out I was runnin stock 175k mile plugs and wires) it made 212/203

I then spun a bearing in my pos 3.0 and dropped in a refreshed low mileage 3.2 from an automatic SHO.

Dyno'd 1 more time and made 219/215, however the power came alot sooner, and lasted alot longer as opposed to the 3.0, making for an overall quicker car.


Well, I've since gone FI (t4 super 70) but I'm having trouble with tuning this thing, no dyno numbers yet, but on 9psi I managed to beat a 340whp s/c roush stang on the highway. My a/f gets screwy though, and I really shouldnt be getting on it till I figure out why."



during that race i first posted, assuming he got the swap, he only made 219/215. so is that about what he need to beat the S?
Old 01-09-2007 | 08:31 PM
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taurus ftw! lol




it seems like the CL was stuck on first gear. maybe reverse..... sure was dam slow.
Old 01-09-2007 | 08:40 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186111


CL-S in reverse > CL-S that got pwned by fugly taurus



Old 01-10-2007 | 10:27 AM
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that sho is bad...look at the other video of it, it keeps up with a supercharged v8 mustang....
Old 01-10-2007 | 10:49 AM
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Yep, more than just the Y-Pipe as suspected.
Old 01-10-2007 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SIRSIG
during that race i first posted, assuming he got the swap, he only made 219/215. so is that about what he need to beat the S?
Curb weight for the SHO is just over 200lbs less than the CL-S, subtract the weight of the person videoing the race in the CL-S, plus the SHO has the advantage of being a better driver most likely. On top of all of that the SHO has an upgraded clutch according to the other video he posted of it, explaining the wheel chirping which I'm sure a factory stock clutch wouldn't have enough grip for. If the CL-S is only making 200 WHP stock (K&N drop in maybe gives it 1-2 WHP if that) I'd say that adds up to a win for the SHO. I checked out the SC'd Mustang race video and it makes me wonder if that's a SC'd V6 and not a V8, never mentions which it is in the video and I'd think you'd be able to hear a deeper growl/whine from the Stang. I just can't imagine that SHO would keep up with a SC'd GT with only 219 WHP. Still pretty impressive for a old woman domestic sedan. Definitely a sleeper.
Old 01-10-2007 | 12:41 PM
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The race against the Maxima, my boy has the same year Maxima and it is a manual. We both raced from about a 20-25mph roll, I absolutely toasted him, even more than that SHO toasted that Maxima in the Vid.

My buddy is a very good stick driver too, so I don't see how that SHO beat the Maxima by less than I beat my buddies, yet the SHO beat the CL-S.
Old 01-10-2007 | 12:53 PM
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The CL driver didn't gate shift like he should of. If he was going at a 20-25mph roll, it would have down shiftd to first. It sems like the CL was upshifting to soon and the vtec was not engaging...
Old 01-10-2007 | 02:27 PM
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i too got destroyed by SHO before, 5 inside their car and 2 of us. I thought i can get him off the line and take him before the lane merged, boy was i wrong that was before the swap and FI... Mod that time: e/i/h/v-afc/cams doing 185/165...
Old 01-10-2007 | 05:57 PM
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jeez who knew that a ford taurus could crank out that much power?
Old 01-10-2007 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RYANGP
jeez who knew that a ford taurus could crank out that much power?
Any domestic fan knows. In their day the SHO was kickin the crap out of just about any FWD car and some RWD cars. So modded it will fly.
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Yeah, I remember all the hype about the SHO back in the day. Funniest thing is it's not even a Ford engine, it's a Yamaha. Figures!
Old 01-10-2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CLariSe-169
Yeah, I remember all the hype about the SHO back in the day. Funniest thing is it's not even a Ford engine, it's a Yamaha. Figures!
Yeah, the motor also was notorious for falling apart. It had reliability issues. Just one of the reasons ford canned the SHO.
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Yeah, the motor also was notorious for falling apart. It had reliability issues. Just one of the reasons ford canned the SHO.
Didn't know that. I thought the engine would be the one thing to hold together. I always make fun of Taurus' I see with the factory spoilers on them, but that's one Taurus that might actually benefit from it. I've always been a sucker for sleepers. I think some day I'm going to try to find a nice Dodge Omni GLH as a fun weekend car to mess with.
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Damn, of course I do a search after saying that and find this gem...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge...QQcmdZViewItem

Wish I had the extra cash to pick this major sleeper up. 11 second Omni... gotta love it.
Old 01-11-2007 | 12:36 AM
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When I was a teenager, I went with my brother on a test drive in a 1993 SHO...
He was waiting to turn into traffic, while sitting on a hill and he accidently started in 3rd gear. No roll back, no clutch burning and yet he took off perfectly fine.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Taurus-Timeslip-3992.html

1990 - 1995
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Engine = V6 (some even have as big as 3.8L stock)
Transmission = 5 Speed Manual
Could = Spanking

Body Styles:4-Dr Sedan, 4-Dr WagonEngines:3.0L V6, 3.8L V6, 3.2L V6Transmissions:4 Speed Automatic, 4 Speed Automatic, 5 Speed ManualDrivetrains:Front Wheel Drive
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I found this about a 1994 Taurus SHO

What's New for 1994
The passenger airbag is finally a standard equipment item. GL models receive 15-inch wheels (WOW) and all Tauruses get a new steering wheel. Cellular phones are a new option.
Old 01-11-2007 | 12:44 AM
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WTF...DAmm CL Shitty Driver...
Old 01-13-2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by crippler22
Yeah, the motor also was notorious for falling apart. It had reliability issues. Just one of the reasons ford canned the SHO.
SHO 3.0L and 3.2L have ZERO reliability issues what exactly are you talking about again? You must be thinking about the 96-99 3.4L V6 that would snap camshaft gears off and that could be fixed by pinning it.

Only real drawback was engine mounts and valve adjustments every 60K
Old 01-13-2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
SHO 3.0L and 3.2L have ZERO reliability issues what exactly are you talking about again? You must be thinking about the 96-99 3.4L V6 that would snap camshaft gears off and that could be fixed by pinning it.

Only real drawback was engine mounts and valve adjustments every 60K
That and bearings. Plenty of SHO owners spun bearings and had to have the engine repaired but most likely replaced. I was one of them (thank goodness for the warranty). I had a '93 5spd and yes they are quick and shine on the highway but there's no way it should beat a CL S unless the CL-S isn't trying or it has had some work done.
The 3.2 swap was very common and there were also some supercharged and turbocharged(TurboJim, i think) SHO's that were running 13's and high 12's.

Loved that car...until I got smoked by a CL on the e-way. Then, I had to have one, and the rest is history...
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bearings? on the 3.0 and 3.2L? never heard of that unless the owner didn't maintain their car properly......
Old 01-15-2007 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
bearings? on the 3.0 and 3.2L? never heard of that unless the owner didn't maintain their car properly......
Yeah, bearings were always checked and found to be the cause of many engine problems in the SHO.
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Originally Posted by CL-Future
That and bearings. Plenty of SHO owners spun bearings and had to have the engine repaired but most likely replaced. I was one of them (thank goodness for the warranty). I had a '93 5spd and yes they are quick and shine on the highway but there's no way it should beat a CL S unless the CL-S isn't trying or it has had some work done.
The 3.2 swap was very common and there were also some supercharged and turbocharged(TurboJim, i think) SHO's that were running 13's and high 12's.

Loved that car...until I got smoked by a CL on the e-way. Then, I had to have one, and the rest is history...
YeuEmMaiMai, thats what I am talking about. I new two different SHO owners and both of them had problems with their engines. Coincedence, I don't think so.
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i found a balla SHO on cardomain check it out.

him talking: " I was anxious to find out what rod bearing I had spun, so I kept pulling stuff apart. I spun the #5 rod bearing and it destroyed the crankshaft and connecting rod. "

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/225912/5


is that the bearing you guys talking about?
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Originally Posted by SIRSIG
i found a balla SHO on cardomain check it out.

him talking: " I was anxious to find out what rod bearing I had spun, so I kept pulling stuff apart. I spun the #5 rod bearing and it destroyed the crankshaft and connecting rod. "

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/225912/5


is that the bearing you guys talking about?
That would be it



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