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Old 02-09-2010, 10:01 PM
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Honda AirBag Recall?? Does it effect our CLs

After reading this article and the years of the cars effected and how similar so many of the parts were, does anyone think that this effects our cars?

This issue is not the same as the OPDS sensor that was fixed on so many of our cars already.

Tue Feb 9, 7:22 pm ET

DETROIT – Honda Motor Co. is adding more than 378,000 cars to an existing safety recall for air bag inflation problems, the company said Tuesday.

The company will replace the driver's side air bag inflator on the cars because they can deploy with too much pressure, causing the inflator to rupture and injure or kill the driver.

The recall now affects more than 822,000 vehicles, including certain 2001 and 2002 Accord sedans, Civic compacts, Odyssey minivans, CR-V small sport utility vehicles and some 2002 Acura TL sedans.

Honda said it is aware of 12 incidents linked to the problem, with 11 injuries and one death. The company said it is not aware of any problems happening after July 2009.

"However, we have concluded that we cannot be completely certain that the driver's air bag inflator in the vehicles being added to this recall at this time will perform as designed," Honda said in a statement.

Honda's announcement comes at a time of increased attention on automotive recalls. Though the problems are unrelated, rival Toyota Motor Corp. in the process of recalling more than 8 million cars and trucks due to faulty gas pedals. On Tuesday, Toyota said it would recall more than 440,000 of its flagship 2010 Prius hybrids due to a braking glitch.

"There is a heightened sensitivity right to anything to do with recalls," said John Mendel, executive vice president of sales for American Honda.

Honda originally announced the recall to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in November of 2008, involving fewer than 4,000 2001 Accords and Civics, the company said. The recall was expanded in July of 2009 to 440,000 vehicles including the 2001 and 2002 Accord and Civic, as well as certain 2002 Acura TL sedans.

Worldwide, Honda has recalled about 514,000 vehicles globally due to the airbag problem. The company said it would make issue a press release at 11 a.m. Wednesday in Tokyo (9 p.m. Tuesday EST) about how many vehicles are affected worldwide by the latest recall expansion.

Company officials said the airbag produces too much pressure that can cause the inflator to rupture, sending metal fragments toward the driver.

Honda says owners should take their vehicles to dealerships as soon as they are notified by the company in writing. Notification will begin during the month of February.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:38 PM
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I just saw that on the news, LOL, I unpluged my air bag and CLS progression laughed at me WHOs laughing now LOL. But other than that I would wait and see

I think this is the goverments/media( conspiracy ) way of trying to get us to buy more north amercian cars, and there blowing up so that every little thing looks like a big deal when it may or may not be

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not sure if its the media, but the media cant make up factory recalls when honda issues the recall. but the media can make it sounds as bad as it can, and its not exactly the golden years for japanese automakers.

bet my friend is happy he got an altima though lol
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
not sure if its the media, but the media cant make up factory recalls when honda issues the recall. but the media can make it sounds as bad as it can, and its not exactly the golden years for japanese automakers.

bet my friend is happy he got an altima though lol
No , thats what Im saying the media is totaly blowing it up I had a recall done on my jeep awhile back, The problem was that battery acid leaked on to the break lines and tteh breaks failed thats a huge issue but i never heard about it in the media

BTW I have a rav 4 and im not worried but I do hate the car ( its my wifes winter car )
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well us car savy guys know to just drop it in to neutral and pull off to the side of the road so I wouldnt be worried it either.
Just let your wife know the proper procedure so she wont freak out if it happens.
Old 02-10-2010, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
well us car savy guys know to just drop it in to neutral and pull off to the side of the road so I wouldnt be worried it either.
Just let your wife know the proper procedure so she wont freak out if it happens.
Shes a pretty good driver she also has an 88 300zx 5 speed and a magnum RT, the rav 4 was kinda of given to her and she hates it too (it defintly not her style) and we never drive it, its an 03 with 40k on it
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is it even under the recall? lol
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Im not sure but the gas did stick on me once so I hope it is
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Honda announced it is expanding a previously announced recall to replace an airbag inflator in an additional 379,000 U.S. vehicles.

In a statement posted on its Web site late Tuesday, Honda said the driver's airbag inflators in these certain vehicles may expand with too much pressure, which can cause the inflator casing to break and could result in injury or death.

The original recall involving this issue happened in July 2009, and it included 2001 and 2002 Accords and Civics as well as some 2002 model year Acura TL vehicles, a Honda spokesman told CNNMoney.com.

The recall expansion affects 2001 and 2002 Accord, Civic, Odyssey, CR-V, and selected 2002 Acura TL vehicles, the statement said. Honda said there have been 12 incidents related to the airbag inflator problem.

One Honda Pilot car and one Acura CL vehicle may also be affected, the spokesman said.

Although none of the reported problems occurred after July 2009, Honda said it was still expanding the recall because it could not be sure that the inflators in the aforementioned vehicles would work correctly.

Honda said it will notify affected customers by mail and phone with instructions on how to have their vehicles inspected and updated at an authorized dealer. The entire production of each of the models in question is not necessarily included in the recall.

Last month, Honda announced a separate recall of 646,000 2007 and 2008 Fit, City and Jazz models worldwide, after a fire hazard involving a power window switch resulted in a death in South Africa.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/09/auto...dex.htm?hpt=T2

The "One Acura CL vehicle may affected" is pretty vague.
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is the airbag inflater seperate from the air bag?
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Originally Posted by MrFluffy
I think this is the goverments/media( conspiracy ) way of trying to get us to buy more north amercian cars, and there blowing up so that every little thing looks like a big deal when it may or may not be

This comment cracked me up, haha. My dad said the exact same thing but he took it a step further and said it was the American government who rigged certain foreign cars and put them out there so people would lose faith in the foreign car market. Btw, they have a camry
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Also, this makes me wonder about when my wife got into a head on accident in her 2002 CL. There was no passenger in the car but that airbag went off also when I didn't think it should have because the sensor was suppose to detect that.
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i hope this doesn't effect us. my car hasn't been to a dealer in about 4 or 5 years and i don't want to go any time soon
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If this does come into play for cl's,
would this only be for 1 owner cars ?
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Originally Posted by richardparker
If this does come into play for cl's,
would this only be for 1 owner cars ?
no, all CL's. it doesn't matter how many owners
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Originally Posted by richardparker
If this does come into play for cl's,
would this only be for 1 owner cars ?
No. They will send you something in the mail about it if it affects your car even if you aren't he original owner. I got recall notices for a 10 year old vehicle when I was the 3rd owner and had never given Ford notice that I was the new owner.
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Well that definitly sounds like a plus.
Do they have a time frame ever to send out notices for those affected by the recall.

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Honda has put out big money on their recalls for cars in the early 2000s. Between the trannys, opds sensor and now this air bag recall, that is a ton of money for the dealerships.

I wonder if this opens themselves to lawsuits for other people in the past who have been in accidents with one of these recalled cars and were hurt from the airbag and didn't think it was out of the norm. After reading this recall, I wonder how many new court cases might be opened due to a faulty airbag.
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Originally Posted by MrFluffy
BTW I have a rav 4 and im not worried but I do hate the car ( its my wifes winter car )
I just bought a 06 Rav for my financee. I like it a lot.
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i had a rental Rav 4 (new one) and i like it, but of course the accelerator didn't stick and kill me
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I hate rav 4s there not bad cars but I still hate them sorry
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the other post said the 01-02 cl is affected but didnt list the 03. Can anyone confirm this.
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03s have the dual stage airbag so thats why the 03 bags arent interchangable with the 01/02s.

LOL at the one CL. I wonder which lucky CL owner is gonna get that letter
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I am not too worried about it.........imho honda is addressing it and unlike toyota is not trying to sweep their crap under the rug......
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theres an article out that says automakers are going full out on recalls now and wont wait like toyota. maybe thats why honda is recalling more cars now.
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i hope this doesn't effect us. my car hasn't been to a dealer in about 4 or 5 years and i don't want to go any time soon
Same here. Dealers suck!
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Shouldn't we all get something done for free from the dealership or some kind of credit. Yes we get our cars fixed which was due to their negligence in the first place but what about the hassle and inconvenience and lost time by taking my car to the dealership and spending 4 hours out of my day.

I want a free case of transmission fluid, a free set of car mats or a valve adjustment!! The dealerships sure charge you for every minute of their time, I'm thinking of doing the same thing.

My yearly salary/hours in a year = Rate

Rate X number of hours it takes them to fix this recall = Compensation.
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Stupid question, but If I'm not the original owner of the car will I still get a notification?
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I talked to Acura on the phone they told me the Acura CL in CANADA is NOT affected by this problem.

ONLY some in the US have been flagged as needing a air bag replacement.

ONLY ELs and TLs in CANADA could potentially have this problem.

a lil FYI
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Originally Posted by MrFluffy
I just saw that on the news, LOL, I unpluged my air bag and CLS progression laughed at me WHOs laughing now LOL. But other than that I would wait and see

I think this is the goverments/media( conspiracy ) way of trying to get us to buy more north amercian cars, and there blowing up so that every little thing looks like a big deal when it may or may not be
very very true... this shit about toyota and honda now is american bullshit
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
03s have the dual stage airbag so thats why the 03 bags arent interchangable with the 01/02s.

LOL at the one CL. I wonder which lucky CL owner is gonna get that letter
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Hope I get one.
New parts are fine with me.
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it'd be nice to get the 03 airbag :-) but w/e
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Same here. Dealers suck!
i don't want some pimple face 16 yr old driving my car
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
I talked to Acura on the phone they told me the Acura CL in CANADA is NOT affected by this problem.

ONLY some in the US have been flagged as needing a air bag replacement.

ONLY ELs and TLs in CANADA could potentially have this problem.

a lil FYI
did they say what EL's? i was thinking of buying a 1.6 EL as a beater
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Don't think the CL's are on that recall list...But my 2002 TL sure is. :/
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yea they said "some" ELs have that problem also.

but for w/e it's worth my bro wrote off a CLP like 4 or 5 years ago at 40-45mph T-boned some dumbass and bro walked away without a scratch... all airbags deployed... the whole 9 yards
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Arrow Update

Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
ACURA / 3.2CL 2003
ACURA / 3.2TL 2002-2003
HONDA / ACCORD 2001-2002
HONDA / CIVIC 2001-2003
HONDA / CRV 2002
HONDA / ODYSSEY 2002
HONDA / PILOT 2003
Manufacturer: HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.) Mfr’s Report Date: FEB 09, 2010
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 10V041000 N/A NHTSA Action Number: N/A
Component: AIR BAGS
Potential Number of Units Affected: 379000

Summary: HONDA IS RECALLING MODEL YEAR 2001-2002 ACCORD 2 AND 4-DOOR, MODEL YEAR 2001-2003 CIVIC 4-DOOR, MODEL YEAR 2001-2002 CIVIC 2-DOOR, MODEL YEAR 2002-CRV, MODEL YEAR 2002 ODYSSEY, MODEL YEAR 2003 PILOT, MODEL YEAR 2002-2003 ACURA 3.2TL AND MODEL YEAR 2003 ACURA 3.2CL PASSENGER VEHICLES. THE DRIVER’S AIRBAG INFLATOR COULD PRODUCE EXCESSIVE INTERNAL PRESSURE. IF AN AFFECTED AIRBAG DEPLOYS, THE INCREASED INTERNAL PRESSURE MAY CAUSE THE INFLATOR TO RUPTURE.

Consequence: METAL FRAGMENTS COULD PASS THROUGH THE AIRBAG CUSHION MATERIAL POSSIBLY CAUSING INJURY OR FATALITY TO VEHICLE OCCUPANTS.

Remedy: DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE AIRBAG INFLATOR FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR BEFORE FEBRUARY 25, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AUTOMOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-999-1009.

Notes: HONDA’S RECALL NO. Q96 & ACURA’S RECALL NO. R13. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION’S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .


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