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Old 04-19-2001, 05:48 PM
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Help with Toyo T1S sizes

Some of you guys have put on 235/40 or 45s on either 17 or 18 inch wheels. Tire guy yesterday tells me the biggest tire they'll give me the 500 mi test drive is 225/45x17 due to rubbing.
Do you have rubbing with the bigger sizes? If so, where? Any documentation that bigger sizes fit our car?

Also, why did you not get S-02 Pole positions or Mich Pilot Sports?

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Old 04-19-2001, 05:58 PM
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I thing about the Pilot is I think the price. It is $300 a tire and the is just about the same price for a new rim.

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Old 04-19-2001, 06:14 PM
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If your car is not lowered 235/45/17 should fit without any issues, from what I heard on the forum.
The word is that Toyo TS1 is a very competitive tire to Pilots and Pzeros, while they cost much less and give you very similar performance and comfortable ride.

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I would have to disagree. Toyos are a very good tire for the price and are a very smart choice. But, if you have the cash, go for the Pilots then Poles. Just personal opinion though.

The only tire I used that I felt stuck better than Pilots were Yokohama A032r's.
Old 04-19-2001, 09:42 PM
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I think toyo's are the best regardless of price because they offer amazing performance without a super-harsh ride.

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Old 04-19-2001, 10:02 PM
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If you are going to lower the car below the fenders, you better look around (my opinion).

Mike has 235/45-17s with Comptech lowering springs (Toyo proxies).

I love my Toyo T1S Proxies!

If someone would get a magazine for us, I would love to see a test of all of the top tires for our car. (Wishing and waiting, and waiting....)

However, I love the ride, wet weather performance (feels like I'm in the dry), hydroplane resistance, dry handling, smooth/quiet ride, and super reinforced carcass (no more rubbing the sidewalls).

BTW -- with my non-lowered car, I have never had a rub with the Toyo 235s (see sig) and they stick very well. No comparison to the stock rubber.

(opinion expressed are my own)

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Do you have rubbing with the bigger sizes?
If so, where?
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If the 235s go on stock rims -- no problem with rubbing. The slightly too small rim, reduces the section width (of the tire) to about 1/4" more on each side of the tire than the stock 215/50 MXM4.

If the 235s go on 8" rims, and you plan on lowering to below fender level, you might want to think about fender rolling. (Note -- this is just my opinion from the look of the rubber and wheels)

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Any documentation that bigger sizes fit our car?
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Not that I know of

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Also, why did you not get S-02 Pole positions or Mich Pilot Sports?
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The RE-730s and S-02s were choice #1. But then I got very concerned about the load rating and XL-rating of the stock tire. I called Acura Care, and they say to go by the manual. The manual specs a 93V load and speed rating. At that time, I couldn't find a dealer that would work with me on the 235s (I was told that the 225 would mess-up the VSA and NAVI -- They said it, not me). so, I wanted a super sticky tire that met factory "requirements".

I found the Toyo T1S Proxies, looked at the various boards, and found various people who had the Pilots and others liked the T1S better. I also have a friend that never has steered me wrong, and he said that they were great. Finally, I got them for about the same price as the RE-730s ($150-$160ea) vs the $230+ of the others you mentioned. So, I loved the tread design (I want to be safe in pouring rain on the freeway), and I like "smart shopping." I also considered that the Toyo's were a brand-new design. If you want the Michelin's or S-02s, maybe you should wait for their new tires (like the coming S-03).

my $0.02



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  • Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
  • Comptech headers & sways ready
  • Silver AEM CAI ready
  • 8 coats of Zaino magic
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