BoostedM3

It was pretty cold this morning, so I went for some Gtech runs. Temp was in the mid to upper 40s. VSA off on all runs.

Best runs: 5.76, 5.83 (BT~1200rpm, SS/D1-D2)
Worst run: 6.52 (SS)

Mashing the gas pedal gave me my worst run today. With VSA off and in SS, I just sat there for like 2 seconds (according to the Gtech) with the wheels spinning. I had to ease the gas pedal when launching and that gave me the best time. I gotta get some stickier tires!

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2001 Acura CL Type-S Satin Silver/Ebony
Debadged, PIAA Roadlamps, M-11 Turn signals, Comptech Headers, Comptech Springs, custom intake
Best Gtech 0-60: 5.76

Mike

That's awesome Ronnie!! Did you go to the industrial complex or ?
Who was the kind hearted person that let you borrow a gtech???? How much gas in your tank?
We're on for the track on 2/3/01 right? I hear starving students are free! If you beat me at the track I'll pay for everything and buy you lunch. How's that for an incentive?

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car

gavriil

Gtech is so off it is not funny. Sorry.

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Gabriel
CL Type S

Mike

Based on what, your opinion? Provide data to support your position.

Go back to bed grumpy!

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car


[This message has been edited by Mike (edited 01-20-2001).]

[This message has been edited by Mike (edited 01-20-2001).]

tw1112

HAHA Mike! Yeah gtech is off sometimes...not always. Who was that one person that posted his track slip times along with gtech times? He got some that were right on, while others were a little off, and then he had a couple that were off by 1-2 secs.

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Tw1112
CL 3.0 '98 - Cleared bumper, hiper/piaa bulbs all around, PIAA 1700x fogs, and AEM CAI.

• My CL
• LA Autoshow
• SoCal Meet

Mike

TW, don't base your opinion of a product or anything off of someone elses experience. Rdsandy experimented with his gtech and posted his results and I respect that. To spout off and say, "Gtech is so off it is not funny. Sorry." is easy but w/o proof it's just another worthless opinion.


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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car

BoostedM3

Thanks for the Gtech Mike. I went to Kirkham (the place we met before). I had about a quarter tank of gas. As for the track, I'll have to check my schedule for the 3rd...but if I can go, you're on!

Gavriil - Gtech can be off, but gives consistent "off" results. So just by comparison, my run best run before (with Mike's Gtech) was 6.38 (70+F w/headers) and now it's 5.76 (~45F w/headers+intake+springs). I can say that the intake did make a difference especially with colder air. If I can go to the track with Mike on the 3rd, we'll see if it's off. However, some people on this forum have compared Gtech 1/4mi ETs to track ETs and they are pretty close.

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2001 Acura CL Type-S Satin Silver/Ebony
Debadged, PIAA Roadlamps, M-11 Turn signals, Comptech Headers, Comptech Springs, custom intake
Best Gtech 0-60: 5.76

CLpower

my experiences with g-techs is that they were dead even with the tracks 1/4 mile times only the MPH were different

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pays to be young and crazy

-99 acura 3.0 CL
-58 Caddy Eldorado Biarritz
-55 chevy suburban (chopped dropped tubbed)

scalbert

BTW, he also experimented with rolling launches while resetting the Gtec. Hardly the way of testing something. We all (who went through High School) took basic science and know the deal with theories. Test, document your tests and then retest under the same conditions. Otherwise the results can be flawed. There is no reason to make Gtech runs without resetting the meter the same way every time.

rdsandy

I still have my G-tech and was going to use it to do a before after for the CAI (if it ever comes out) but I don't "respect" the absolute numbers I get with it. Maybe I don't know how to use it, but a good product should be idiot proof. As NJtype-CL once said, 'what do I know, I'm a just a retard'.

And as far as using the scientific method, I've got an MSEE from Georgia Tech but I really don't remember those HS science classes

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South Jersey: 2001 Acura CL-s Gold with navi/spoiler/splashguards/V1/w/cdu
stock 1/4 mile 14.698sec@95.91mph
Atco Raceway 12/1/00

tw1112

For the 139 dollars that the gtech is worth, I think it does a great job! I can't expect the numbers to be exact because there are way to many factors that would make the numbers not accurate. Like Ronnie said, the numbers that the gtech gives out are pretty consistent, so if you notice that the numbers are different after you install a performance upgrade, you will know about how much faster your going. At least that is my opinion..

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Tw1112
CL 3.0 '98 - Cleared bumper, hiper/piaa bulbs all around, PIAA 1700x fogs, and AEM CAI.

• My CL
• LA Autoshow
• SoCal Meet

gavriil

Worthless opinion ah? No prob, I can take worse. Now to the point.

This guy says he run 5.76 secs for the 0-60. Do you really think that headers and intake can make this 3700 pound car do 5.7 for the 0-60? With stock 215, All season tires? If you think that is worthless go start reading some performance numbers of other cars to get a clue.

As for the fact that the Gtech can be consistently off, that I agree with. Seeing how much difference a mod or temperature descrepancies can make with the Gtech, is valid.

Like I have to go and do a study with the Gtech pro, get my PHD on this subject and come and post here at your board because otherwise my opinion is worthless. Give me a fricking brake!

By the way, this country is built on the fact that NO ONE's opinion is worthless clown. Oh by the way, the existance of a small thing called the internet is based on that same principle too.

Geeeee...

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Gabriel
CL Type S

spiroh

Gavrill,

What part of chicago are you from?

Spiro

scalbert

I do enjoy this.

BTW, I was born in St. Charles IL, but have been in the south (ATL) since I was 10. So am I a nothernern or southerner??

EricL

Hmmm... Time for that cold water or hot water. The GTech is a tool like any other. It can be used or misused. I am happy with mine *and* I've gotten good and bad readings with the unit. (I got bad readings when I didn't zero the unit out well...)

If someone follows the directions, and calibrates the unit, it seems to be rather accurate (from run-to-run). The main errors come from the play in the suction cup mount (they could have done a better job on that). I have had to play with it a bit between runs to make sure it stays at 0.0.

I've gotten very close to 6 seconds (with the following conditions):

1. I have really sticky tires (at least relative to the OEMs). I leave the VSA on and only get a quick blink of the VSA at start *and* at about 4500 rpm (there about).

2. My great readings 6.0 / 6.1 both ways, where done with the temp outside around 40 degrees.

3. I'm a big guy -- but the car was stripped of any extra books, water, sundries *and* the gas was between the 1/4 mark and empty.

I don't see why the numbers are so unbelievable? They[reviewers] got 6.4 - 6.8 depending on the magazine/review. Most/some of the testers will put in a full tank, with 2 guys, and will test at 70 - 100 degrees outside.

That January 2001 Sports Compact Car article was very good. They compared times with different wheels *and* with different added weights.

Give the CL-S some sticky tires, a light fuel load, a small (light driver), low temps, and it will get to 6 seconds or less.


BTW -- Achance gave me the link (to the January issue), but it is now dead. I'll have to go through my papers *and* hope I didn't toss it.

scalbert

Thank you!!! It is a tool and should be treated as one.

typeR

As NJtype-CL once said, 'what do I know, I'm a just a retard'.

rdsandy if you gonna quote some one it's NJ typeS and it's retart not retard

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Sundance Platinum
Llumar platinum plus
tint 20% all around
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16" coupe wheels
215/55/16 nitto's
20% smoke titanium

BoostedM3

[quote]As for the fact that the Gtech can be consistently off, that I agree with. Seeing how much difference a mod or temperature descrepancies can make with the Gtech, is valid.[quote]

Agreed. However, Beatyall or someone (who has 18s and a V-AFC in addition to my mods) can run in the high 13s at the track. He would have to be running 0-60 in the mid 5s. I think his 18s are not that light (probably slow him down a little bit) and unless that V-AFC makes huge HP gains, I think my time is reasonable. His 0-60 is 5.41 on Gtech, which is 0.3sec faster than mine.

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2001 Acura CL Type-S Satin Silver/Ebony
Debadged, PIAA Roadlamps, M-11 Turn signals, Comptech Headers, Comptech Springs, custom intake
Best Gtech 0-60: 5.76

Mike

Hiding behind name calling and sarcasm isn't proving your point. If you make a statement please supply the facts to support it. Do you believe everything you read in the car rags? At least we're out there testing while you've got your butt parked in an easy chair; playing the part of an arm chair racer. Prove me wrong with facts not your opinion.


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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car

[This message has been edited by Mike (edited 01-21-2001).]

EricL

I sure hope I don't have to spend all of my Comptech header money on a radar gun/timing kit rental before I can post a GTECH time here.

BTW -- all of the temp, conditions, mods, weight info included in the 0..60s is really useful (just my opinion) for me.

Mike

Post away, Bro! We'll take all of the valid data we can get!
Are you coming to the next CL meet?

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car

BeatYaAll

"I think his 18s are not that light (probably slow him down a little bit) and unless that V-AFC makes huge HP gains, I think my time is reasonable. His 0-60 is 5.41 on Gtech, which is 0.3sec faster than mine."

Yes ronnie0738, my best one was 5.41sec and NOVA saw it by him self... i made sure that he witness it him self so when i say i got 5.41sec .. i will have a prove... and dont forget i have the mufflers and the V-AFC plus ur mods. u should give the mufflers some punch to. and the 1/4 mile on the track was 13.942 on 101 mph .. something like that .. and the 1/4 mile on the Gteh was 13.8 at 102 mph something like that.


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Gold CL-S with comptech headers, mufflers,Springs, V-AFC,AEM CAI. ACE hyper black Wheels 235-40-18ZR.
In the future..Supercharger or turbo if there is any.
Gtech run 0 to 60 in 5.41sec

My car pics are On http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...521&a=11013539

Nashua_Night_Hawk

BeatYaAll:

I have a really good suggestion. Your car is the one of the best moded and tuned CL-S that I am aware of.

All the time when I am browsing a tuner Car Magazine (e.g., Compact Sport Car Mag) I got frustrated that till date I never saw a single CL-S!. WTF in world are those bastard, Mag's Editors, living on the moon. Aren't they aware about the existence of some nice fuking, kcicking ass, Acura 2001, 3.2CLType-S.

I would suggest if yourself, or someone on the this board, possibly Soopa, would contact a tuner Car Magazine (e.g., Compact Sport Car Mag) and tell them :"I have nice fuking, kcicking ass, Acura 2001, 3.2CLType-S available for your testing, could you please have it featured in your Magazine, thank you."

BeatYaAll, are you up to it?

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Bare Bone Stock Type-S. Plenty of accessories. PIAA 19169 to be installed soon.

bc01cls

Ronnie............regardless of all the G-tech controversy, one thing is clear: these are FAST cars (not 3700 lbs either gavrill unless you're in it with a full tank) and can consistently turn out times better than the rag-mags 6.7 post. Great run. Coming from a Cobra, which is quoted in the mid 5's, just the "seat of the pants" feeling when I first drove this told me it was quicker than 6.7 to 60. I want headers now!

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Mike

Who makes a competing and reasonably priced (<$200) product for the Gtech? Anyone?

bc01cls, if you love to race around get the headers!

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car

BoostedM3

BYA - My bad...forgot about the exhausts. Great times tho! =)

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2001 Acura CL Type-S Satin Silver/Ebony
Debadged, PIAA Roadlamps, M-11 Turn signals, Comptech Headers, Comptech Springs, custom intake
Best Gtech 0-60: 5.76

gavriil

See, that is what you dont get. That I do not have to prove anything to you. I do not have to prove you wrong or right. This is not a contest here in this board. There is no prize. This is for people to state their opinions and if you want to read them do it otherwise don't. Skip the worthless opinions and go on with your life.


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Gabriel
CL Type S

Mike

I rest my case. You have no evidence to back your claims. I won't respond further to your posts on this thread.

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car

gavriil

Mike there is a difference between proving a case with evidence and proving a case with judgement. If one told you that electric cars are faster than internal combustion engine cars, you do not need to go and do tests to prve them wrong. You can have "your butt parked in an easy chair; playing the part of an arm chair racer" as you stated and still be able to answer correctly.

That is what you fail to understand. Gtechs can be way off as calibration is tricky plus there are too many variables to go wrong. As others here have stated the Gtech is a tool and should be used as one. The fellow that claims these sub-5.8 second runs should go to the track and tell us what he ran under average conditions.

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Gabriel
CL Type S

BeatYaAll

Mike, u always try to prove people wrong .... u will make up numbers and stuff like that just to Prove people wrong.. first of all maybe u tried ur run in a hot weather thats why u got 6.08sec.... the weather here is under 30's ... so that will make a huge difference in the numbers.. plus when u said u smoked a S2000 .. no one did tell u .. noway u cant do it and by the numbers u wont win.... soo things happen.. sometimes cars differ in the power from the day they make them... u will notice that if u bring two CL-S and raced them.. noway they will be the same .. the numbers will differ.. iam saying this because i used to have a 99 cobra and my friend have the same model cobra 99 and when we race ... my car was stronger than his and its the same cars.. dont tell me its the driver .. when i take his car and he take my car he will beat me too ... so iam saying this from an experince.

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Gold CL-S with comptech headers, mufflers,Springs, V-AFC,AEM CAI. ACE hyper black Wheels 235-40-18ZR.
In the future..Supercharger or turbo if there is any.
Gtech run 0 to 60 in 5.41sec

My car pics are On http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...521&a=11013539

Mike

1st off Gabriel - An honest answer to an honest question. That's all I was looking for. Why was that so hard??? Of course the track is the only real proving ground, but the gtech is better than nothing. You act as though we're just supposed to take your word as gospel.

BYA, grow up. If you took the time to read the thread you'll see that I was asking Gabriel to supply evidence to support his position.
Name one other person that you've seen me arguing with and trying to prove them wrong? Just one.
As for me making up numbers what is your basis for that accusation??? You don't even know me or my character. I believe you're jealous because I beat an S2000 and you didn't.
For your information the 6.08 was at night in cool weather (50s). That's a very respectable number for a stock CLS.
I never said I smoked an S2000. I said I beat an S2000 and those are 2 VERY different scenarios so don't put words in my mouth.
If either of you wish to discuss this further let's take it offline. Email me.

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech Headers
Comptech Springs
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
Best 0-60. 6.08 Gtech Pro (Preheaders)

My Car

BeatYaAll

"If either of you wish to discuss this further let's take it offline. Email me."


u got mail.

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Gold CL-S with comptech headers, mufflers,Springs, V-AFC,AEM CAI. ACE hyper black Wheels 235-40-18ZR.
In the future..Supercharger or turbo if there is any.
Gtech run 0 to 60 in 5.41sec

My car pics are On http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...521&a=11013539