Friendly Race -- CLS vs. S2000 vs. 225 TT
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Friendly Race -- CLS vs. S2000 vs. 225 TT
OK here's the situation- all cars are stock except the TT has a replacement exhaust that gives ~5-10HP.
So should I give them a run? These are both my buddies and we should be able to be honest with the results (as honest as an off the cuff back road race can be).
I hope them having to shift puts the pressure on them and I can pull away strong
Course if I lose I will just have to convince my wife that is MUST have the Comptech headers and Xephyr CAI
Curious on wagers of the outcome for 1st, 2nd, 3rd ... thoughts?
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So should I give them a run? These are both my buddies and we should be able to be honest with the results (as honest as an off the cuff back road race can be).
I hope them having to shift puts the pressure on them and I can pull away strong
Course if I lose I will just have to convince my wife that is MUST have the Comptech headers and Xephyr CAI
Curious on wagers of the outcome for 1st, 2nd, 3rd ... thoughts?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CLpower:
whats a 225 TT?</font>
whats a 225 TT?</font>
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wager small, and lose intentionally and get the headers and cai.
then wager your house, race again, kick ass, and convince your wife that she should never doubt you again as a result.
then wager your house, race again, kick ass, and convince your wife that she should never doubt you again as a result.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mrdeeno:
wager small, and lose intentionally and get the headers and cai.
then wager your house, race again, kick ass, and convince your wife that she should never doubt you again as a result.</font>
wager small, and lose intentionally and get the headers and cai.
then wager your house, race again, kick ass, and convince your wife that she should never doubt you again as a result.</font>
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If they're good drivers:
s2000
cls & audi. too close to call imo. edge goes to the TT based on exhaust upgrade.
if they're average drivers:
cls
s2000
audi
Make sure you race from a stop so they'll have to get a good launch.
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cls & audi. too close to call imo. edge goes to the TT based on exhaust upgrade.
if they're average drivers:
cls
s2000
audi
Make sure you race from a stop so they'll have to get a good launch.
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You will lose to both. Unless they are bad drivers. And if you really want to lose badly you will race them in the twisties. You will soon find out how poorly your car handles.
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Its funny, I originally thought the Audi TT was a decent, different looking car, but everyone I talk to thinks that it is really silly looking vehicle that is so similar to the vw bug to render it laughable. I guess that for the money you pay, it should definitely be more distinguishable from a vw. And by the way we have people on this board that have beaten a TT...But hey you can believe whatever you want about the race results...And in the meantime, keep driving that Bug,errr I mean TT.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by stangsrlame:
Its funny, I originally thought the Audi TT was a decent, different looking car, but everyone I talk to thinks that it is really silly looking vehicle that is so similar to the vw bug to render it laughable. I guess that for the money you pay, it should definitely be more distinguishable from a vw. And by the way we have people on this board that have beaten a TT...But hey you can believe whatever you want about the race results...And in the meantime, keep driving that Bug,errr I mean TT.</font>
Its funny, I originally thought the Audi TT was a decent, different looking car, but everyone I talk to thinks that it is really silly looking vehicle that is so similar to the vw bug to render it laughable. I guess that for the money you pay, it should definitely be more distinguishable from a vw. And by the way we have people on this board that have beaten a TT...But hey you can believe whatever you want about the race results...And in the meantime, keep driving that Bug,errr I mean TT.</font>
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TT guy?
U have the coupe why u did not get the Audi S4 Quattro, that thing u r in is a coffin... too tiny. As if you are living in a cow boy's boot!
And stop bashing Acura CL-S they are damm fine cars. Yours is a not a Porshe either!
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U have the coupe why u did not get the Audi S4 Quattro, that thing u r in is a coffin... too tiny. As if you are living in a cow boy's boot!
And stop bashing Acura CL-S they are damm fine cars. Yours is a not a Porshe either!
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One thing, a lousy 2.0, 4-Cylinder, NO turbo, poor Honada S2000 will kick your candy ass big time, even in the twisties., heh heh heh
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
And stop bashing Acura CL-S they are damm fine cars.
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And stop bashing Acura CL-S they are damm fine cars.
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I bought a TT quattro over the CL Type S--the CL is a nice enough car, but it looks like just another Honda, has a plastic-wood, pedestrian interior, and handles like an Accord with stiff shocks. I drove the CL Type S twice, for a total time of about two hours.
My TT gets smiles and thumbs up everywhere I go. The quality of materials and assembly, as well as the thoughtful engineering sitll impress me. And, although I'm not a racer or a gambler, I'm sure it'll beat either a CL or an S2000 anytime it rains.
They're both very good cars, but if you haven't driven both, you don't know how different they are. Oh, but I don't have that rear view mirror that tilts when you back up!
My TT gets smiles and thumbs up everywhere I go. The quality of materials and assembly, as well as the thoughtful engineering sitll impress me. And, although I'm not a racer or a gambler, I'm sure it'll beat either a CL or an S2000 anytime it rains.
They're both very good cars, but if you haven't driven both, you don't know how different they are. Oh, but I don't have that rear view mirror that tilts when you back up!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
One thing, a lousy 2.0, 4-Cylinder, NO turbo, poor Honada S2000 will kick your candy ass big time, even in the twisties., heh heh heh
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One thing, a lousy 2.0, 4-Cylinder, NO turbo, poor Honada S2000 will kick your candy ass big time, even in the twisties., heh heh heh
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeS 18:
CL - shame on you: Audi Roadster - the thing that looks like some one sat on a VW bug.
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CL - shame on you: Audi Roadster - the thing that looks like some one sat on a VW bug.
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he got the baseball glove stitching?
tell him to chip it and spank all of you
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To be fair, Audi Cars are very nice german cars.. However, they can not compete with honda or japanese cars in general.
Also, Ur Audi is 4SFEDTT, so to have better comparison, compare urs to an S2000 + this Comptech "extra" <img src="http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/media/441500_installed.jpg" hspace=3 vspace=3 align=left >
And assure u u can still keep some extra $5,000 in the bank.
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Also, Ur Audi is 4SFEDTT, so to have better comparison, compare urs to an S2000 + this Comptech "extra" <img src="http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/media/441500_installed.jpg" hspace=3 vspace=3 align=left >
And assure u u can still keep some extra $5,000 in the bank.
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Not sure where you are trying to go with your post. I'm not claiming to be better than an S2000. But since you seem to admire it so much, perhaps you should of purchased one instead of a CL.
Anyway, all three are fine cars, just the CL-S will lose this race. It's fact. Live with it. You are starting to bring in cars with $5000 worth of mods into this thread which is pretty lame. Really now, maybe you can add nitrous to that Comptech supercharger and really teach my TT a lesson huh?!!
Don't bother responding. I won't.
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Anyway, all three are fine cars, just the CL-S will lose this race. It's fact. Live with it. You are starting to bring in cars with $5000 worth of mods into this thread which is pretty lame. Really now, maybe you can add nitrous to that Comptech supercharger and really teach my TT a lesson huh?!!
Don't bother responding. I won't.
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Oh by the way, it does hurt to admit defeat, but it is not shamefull after all:
Read the "fresh" featured TT225 vs S2000 article at http://www.audiworld.com/ here's the link: http://www.audiworld.com/news/01/tt_s2000/index.html
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Read the "fresh" featured TT225 vs S2000 article at http://www.audiworld.com/ here's the link: http://www.audiworld.com/news/01/tt_s2000/index.html
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dang, I think Acura needs to adopt the S2K
and demote the Teg to honda hehe
that would be interesting..
but then again, in Japan, they're all under
one roof.
I walk past a TT everyday in a lot across from my complex that I sometimes use. If i'm balsy enough i'll leave a note: Dare to try a CL-P?..
maybe I'm wishing to get spanked hehe
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and demote the Teg to honda hehe
that would be interesting..
but then again, in Japan, they're all under
one roof.
I walk past a TT everyday in a lot across from my complex that I sometimes use. If i'm balsy enough i'll leave a note: Dare to try a CL-P?..
maybe I'm wishing to get spanked hehe
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Interesting posts, everyone. It would be nice, however, if you owned or had driven the cars you were disrespecting. Acura makes great cars, but there are other ones that are good too. Owner loyalty is important, but I think it goes too far when you decide that everyone that made a choice different from yours is idiotic. This, to me, is disappointing about your posts. I've owned most of the cars you've been talking about, and I can assure you that the TT is not to be taken lightly. To many, it looks funny. But looks can be deceiving.
With regard to the post below, check out Thanks Audi . This is story about a 50-55 mph crash where the occupant walked away with a scratch, the driver's door still opens and closes like the day it was delivered, and the dashboard and floor are unrippled. FYI, the Audi TT is the first car in the world to pass the tough Euro 2003 safety standards. So it's not a tin can as your post here would indicate.
Any car that generates 2+ hp per cubic inch is impressive. When it is tied to a reasonably performing car (without tweaks) that has AWD, and a flat torque curve between 2200 and 5700 RPM, it is even more impressive. As with Acura, the TT is a great platform from which to tweak. Chips, exhaust systems, etc only make a good car better. For $3-400 (group buy), I can chip a TT and take it to nearly 300hp. At that, few cars under $50k could touch it's performance.
Audi's racing heritage is strong and long. Quattro (Audi's traction system) has been banned from many motor racing circuits for being too good. Few cars can say the same.
Finally, try one out. It's very roomy and comfortable inside, unlike many sports cars. If you are 6'+, this is important. For no matter how good a car is, if you can't sit inside and drive - who cares? Fit and finish is also very good. Controls are well designed. Finally, Audi's 4 yr, 50k mi 100% paid maintenance warranty is hard to beat.
Yes, Acura is a great car. But many of the recently released 2002 coupes follow the lines of Audi. They must have something right.
In any event, I really enjoyed my Acura. Now I am having fun with my TT.
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With regard to the post below, check out Thanks Audi . This is story about a 50-55 mph crash where the occupant walked away with a scratch, the driver's door still opens and closes like the day it was delivered, and the dashboard and floor are unrippled. FYI, the Audi TT is the first car in the world to pass the tough Euro 2003 safety standards. So it's not a tin can as your post here would indicate.
Any car that generates 2+ hp per cubic inch is impressive. When it is tied to a reasonably performing car (without tweaks) that has AWD, and a flat torque curve between 2200 and 5700 RPM, it is even more impressive. As with Acura, the TT is a great platform from which to tweak. Chips, exhaust systems, etc only make a good car better. For $3-400 (group buy), I can chip a TT and take it to nearly 300hp. At that, few cars under $50k could touch it's performance.
Audi's racing heritage is strong and long. Quattro (Audi's traction system) has been banned from many motor racing circuits for being too good. Few cars can say the same.
Finally, try one out. It's very roomy and comfortable inside, unlike many sports cars. If you are 6'+, this is important. For no matter how good a car is, if you can't sit inside and drive - who cares? Fit and finish is also very good. Controls are well designed. Finally, Audi's 4 yr, 50k mi 100% paid maintenance warranty is hard to beat.
Yes, Acura is a great car. But many of the recently released 2002 coupes follow the lines of Audi. They must have something right.
In any event, I really enjoyed my Acura. Now I am having fun with my TT.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
TT guy?
U have the coupe why u did not get the Audi S4 Quattro, that thing u r in is a coffin... too tiny. As if you are living in a cow boy's boot!
And stop bashing Acura CL-S they are damm fine cars. Yours is a not a Porshe either!
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TT guy?
U have the coupe why u did not get the Audi S4 Quattro, that thing u r in is a coffin... too tiny. As if you are living in a cow boy's boot!
And stop bashing Acura CL-S they are damm fine cars. Yours is a not a Porshe either!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 4SFEDTT:
Honda prides itself on it's horsepower per liter technology. But the car lacks torque severely. Driving it to it's full potential is a task without reving the living daylights out of it. I'm pretty sure if Audi or even any other car company wanted to simulate the same technology they would. VTEC isn't rocket science to automotive engineers. Some car companies favor torque and power on tap instead of high rev's and fancy horsepower per liter. See the difference?
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Honda prides itself on it's horsepower per liter technology. But the car lacks torque severely. Driving it to it's full potential is a task without reving the living daylights out of it. I'm pretty sure if Audi or even any other car company wanted to simulate the same technology they would. VTEC isn't rocket science to automotive engineers. Some car companies favor torque and power on tap instead of high rev's and fancy horsepower per liter. See the difference?
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BMW doesn't pride itself with huge horsepower per liter but it still has VANOS. In fact, most BMW engines have more torque than horsepower but they still copied Honda's idea. Why do you think that is? Is it maybe because it's a good technology?
All of Honda's VTEC engines don't have huge horsepower per liter. The CL-S has 260hp with 3.2L. That's 81.25hp per liter. Your TT has 125hp per liter, wayyy more than CL-S. How about torque? Your TT has only 207ft/lb vs. 232ft/lb
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I think the TT is cool looking, but the squashed VW bug remark makes me laugh. I'll never be able to look at them the same way now.
Did they ever fix the suspension geometry problems that the original TT's had that made them want to flip over like SUV's?
Did they ever fix the suspension geometry problems that the original TT's had that made them want to flip over like SUV's?
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Jeez...what alternate dimension did all you T-T-Trolls spawn from at once? Instead of making bait-talking smack (4SFEDTT) and griping about peoples' opinions of favoring Acura CLs here (ttechnology), go find a TT bulletin board if you want to hear nothing but love for your car. Otherwise, take your aimless posturing to IS300.net...you'll be a star.
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Yes, in mid-2000. A $500 fix. But rear end lift was only a problem at 120+, in extreme conditions, with folks that weren't experienced high speed drivers.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Water Rabbit:
Did they ever fix the suspension geometry problems that the original TT's had that made them want to flip over like SUV's?
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Did they ever fix the suspension geometry problems that the original TT's had that made them want to flip over like SUV's?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by alex2364:
If VTEC isn't rocket science, then how come Honda was the 1st one that came up with the idea and technology?</font>
If VTEC isn't rocket science, then how come Honda was the 1st one that came up with the idea and technology?</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">..they still copied Honda's idea. Why do you think that is? Is it maybe because it's a good technology?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">All of Honda's VTEC engines don't have huge horsepower per liter. The CL-S has 260hp with 3.2L. That's 81.25hp per liter. Your TT has 125hp per liter, wayyy more than CL-S. How about torque? Your TT has only 207ft/lb vs. 232ft/lb
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I assure you, my interest is not to start an argument. I learn a lot from many forums, including this one. The original question was: Friendly Race -- CLS vs S2000 vs 225TT. How "squashed bug", etc stays on topic and answers question posed, I don't know.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by H4mm3rm4n:
Instead of ... griping about peoples' opinions of favoring Acura CLs here (ttechnology), go find a TT bulletin board if you want to hear nothing but love for your car
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Instead of ... griping about peoples' opinions of favoring Acura CLs here (ttechnology), go find a TT bulletin board if you want to hear nothing but love for your car
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if you're going to buy a tt, you should have saved thousands less and bought the geo metro. same thing.
i mean? what's the difference? is there one? oh wait, the tt has floormats? right?
i mean? what's the difference? is there one? oh wait, the tt has floormats? right?
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hey i found some tt's for sale!
A 1997 TT for ONLY $4,125 as suggested in the blue book! look!
http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/overview/geo/metro/used.asp
oh wait, damn?! i get those tt's and geo metro's mixed up. my bad.
A 1997 TT for ONLY $4,125 as suggested in the blue book! look!
http://carpoint.msn.com/vip/overview/geo/metro/used.asp
oh wait, damn?! i get those tt's and geo metro's mixed up. my bad.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ttechnology:
I assure you, my interest is not to start an argument. I learn a lot from many forums, including this one. The original question was: Friendly Race -- CLS vs S2000 vs 225TT. How "squashed bug", etc stays on topic and answers question posed, I don't know.
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I assure you, my interest is not to start an argument. I learn a lot from many forums, including this one. The original question was: Friendly Race -- CLS vs S2000 vs 225TT. How "squashed bug", etc stays on topic and answers question posed, I don't know.
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at other manufacturers cars. So, if you feel the need to defend the honor of your TT, you're not likely to "win friends and influence people" if you choose to do so here.
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It seems too mamy people here are trying to live through their cars. As if the characteristics of their cars somehow have something to do with them as a person. None of the cars mentioned are sports cars so why compare them as such? And why exactly does it matter what someone else is going to say about the car that you obviously favored over others, it is YOUR car, let them drive whatever it is that they want and be happy with YOUR car. Life is too short to worry about what the neighbors think about your Audi/Acura/BMW/Lexus/Mercedes/Infiniti. You like it? So be it. My .02
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another tt-owner here, but I'm not going to bash your s2k, because I think it's a great ride. I guess that on a good road or circuit the standard s2k is going to be faster than the standard TT if both driven by good drivers. On bumpy/bad roads or rain, snow, ice etc the quattro system will outperform the s2k, no doubt about that. So if i would buy a car for racing on circuit, i'd go for the s2k, if i'd want it for everyday reallife use in all weather/road conditions like i do now, i'd choose the TT. which i did ; ) That's my opinion. I must confess that i was tempted buying an S2k just because i hardly ever see one over here, while i see tt's every day.
and what's a CL-S anyway? i'm from europe, so the acura/honda thing is not very clear to me : ) is it what we call a honda NSX?
hope you don't mind me putting my thoughts here, because i sure don't mean to disrespect your cars, TT and S2k are both great cars, and i'm not going to bash any car just because i own a car that's supposed to be a competitor for it...
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another tt-owner here, but I'm not going to bash your s2k, because I think it's a great ride. I guess that on a good road or circuit the standard s2k is going to be faster than the standard TT if both driven by good drivers. On bumpy/bad roads or rain, snow, ice etc the quattro system will outperform the s2k, no doubt about that. So if i would buy a car for racing on circuit, i'd go for the s2k, if i'd want it for everyday reallife use in all weather/road conditions like i do now, i'd choose the TT. which i did ; ) That's my opinion. I must confess that i was tempted buying an S2k just because i hardly ever see one over here, while i see tt's every day.
and what's a CL-S anyway? i'm from europe, so the acura/honda thing is not very clear to me : ) is it what we call a honda NSX?
hope you don't mind me putting my thoughts here, because i sure don't mean to disrespect your cars, TT and S2k are both great cars, and i'm not going to bash any car just because i own a car that's supposed to be a competitor for it...
greetz, dAve
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by provench:
OK here's the situation- all cars are stock except the TT has a replacement exhaust that gives ~5-10HP.
So should I give them a run? These are both my buddies and we should be able to be honest with the results (as honest as an off the cuff back road race can be).
I hope them having to shift puts the pressure on them and I can pull away strong
Course if I lose I will just have to convince my wife that is MUST have the Comptech headers and Xephyr CAI
Curious on wagers of the outcome for 1st, 2nd, 3rd ... thoughts?
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OK here's the situation- all cars are stock except the TT has a replacement exhaust that gives ~5-10HP.
So should I give them a run? These are both my buddies and we should be able to be honest with the results (as honest as an off the cuff back road race can be).
I hope them having to shift puts the pressure on them and I can pull away strong
Course if I lose I will just have to convince my wife that is MUST have the Comptech headers and Xephyr CAI
Curious on wagers of the outcome for 1st, 2nd, 3rd ... thoughts?
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White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
235/40/17's or 225/45/17's once I found out which one works for me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dAve_TT:
howdie,
another tt-owner here, but I'm not going to bash your s2k, because I think it's a great ride. I guess that on a good road or circuit the standard s2k is going to be faster than the standard TT if both driven by good drivers. On bumpy/bad roads or rain, snow, ice etc the quattro system will outperform the s2k, no doubt about that. So if i would buy a car for racing on circuit, i'd go for the s2k, if i'd want it for everyday reallife use in all weather/road conditions like i do now, i'd choose the TT. which i did ; ) That's my opinion. I must confess that i was tempted buying an S2k just because i hardly ever see one over here, while i see tt's every day.
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howdie,
another tt-owner here, but I'm not going to bash your s2k, because I think it's a great ride. I guess that on a good road or circuit the standard s2k is going to be faster than the standard TT if both driven by good drivers. On bumpy/bad roads or rain, snow, ice etc the quattro system will outperform the s2k, no doubt about that. So if i would buy a car for racing on circuit, i'd go for the s2k, if i'd want it for everyday reallife use in all weather/road conditions like i do now, i'd choose the TT. which i did ; ) That's my opinion. I must confess that i was tempted buying an S2k just because i hardly ever see one over here, while i see tt's every day.
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Also, the "real" Quattro, adds a lot of weight (even though extremely effective otherwise), which takes your mileage into a nose-dive, from what I understand. Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I heard, Audi is working on a lighter version for improving mileage of the car and also reducing the ponderous weight of the "Quattro" system....
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The TT is a fast car, granted, but only when launched with revs up. When launched normally, it takes the turbos time to spool up. Car and Driver did a comparison a while ago, and the TT couldn't even touch the S2K. The S2K was .4 faster to 60. But with a standing street start (5mph to 60mph), it blew the TT away. It took the TT 7.6 seconds and the S2K 6.5 seconds. However, TTs are nice cars, beautiful. Technology wise, these cars offer different technology. It's not that difficult to keep the Hondas in VTEC range because their gearings are so perfect. The TT and the CLS would be close. But remember, we have auto tranny, and the TT has stick. It's hard to achieve Car and Driver times with a stick unless you are really good. Our auto tranny can do most of our work for us. Different cars, different purposes.
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So - got it - tell them they need to be careful of their tires and launch at about 1100rpm's ... then I smoke them with SS
Thanks for the tips - I think my friend with the TT Roadster 225 and I are gonna have some fun ...
Now I just need to work on a won't-kill-my-car start technique ... ;-)
Later
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Thanks for the tips - I think my friend with the TT Roadster 225 and I are gonna have some fun ...
Now I just need to work on a won't-kill-my-car start technique ... ;-)
Later
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