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Old 12-14-2004, 01:57 PM
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I have been working on all the match involved with an engine-rebuild and it appears the following is possible:

3.7L motor capable of holding about 800hp

Ross Pistons
Pauter Rods
Forged crank
New Sleeves with a closed-deck configuration

I am looking into pricing and assembly costs etc.

What do ya'll think of a 3.7L turbo
Old 12-14-2004, 02:00 PM
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And how do you keep all that power on the road with a FWD car?
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let me get it to work and then deal with that question!
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800hp??? Better start looking at a bullet-proof manual tranny. Keep up the good work...
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I can smell the clutch now...


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hmmm, a 10 sec. race cl-s
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fawk that. build it then transfer it into an AWD RL-S
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A CL that can spin wheels in every gear including 6th...
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Originally Posted by mattg
fawk that. build it then transfer it into an AWD RL-S




with 800hp you are gonna need serious drivetrain modifications to put it to the ground.


I mean you already have serious issues with 500hp...


It's gonna be cool though.
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Rl Sh-awd Tranny.....!
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Isn't there a company who makes a beefed up A/T for the CL capable of handling high hp?
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I won't convert it to an auto! Plus, I won't use slicks either.... so on stock tires even 800hp is fine to drive around.

Most likely it will be about 600hp on pump gas and upto 800-1000hp on race-gas. I think my turbo will crap out at around 700'ish hp.

It's all just an idea... I'll have to wait and see on feasibility, but I think it can be done.

TypeR... get ready to ship that block out!
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did you see the block for sale in the BM? $2400 and its from a dealership
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ALL MOTER IZ THE CL gOdd!!!!!!
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I bought TypeR's old block... MUCH cheaper
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I'm sure, $2400 is highway robbery
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how much power would it make NA?
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Hope nothing is wrong with that block In any case, it will have new sleeves, new crank, new rods and new pistons.
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Originally Posted by rezurex
how much power would it make NA?
With my old setup and that block.. I'd say 315whp without headwork or cams.
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DO you plan on putting in a roll cage? I'm pretty sure the times you'd be able to pull, most tracks would kick you out without one, assuming you can put down all that power.
PLus I wouldn't trust me not to kill myself with all that power.
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He doesn't go to the track anymore. :P
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
With my old setup and that block.. I'd say 315whp without headwork or cams.
did you find cams? i've come up with nothing but dead ends. and who did you decide to go with on sleeves for the block?

800-1000 maybe a little wishful thinking, but who knows till the product is done. the head gaskets will have a little problem with that much boost to acheive that much hp, although it can be done once or twice. I'm looking for around 600-650 crank hp when i'm finished, my turbo and IC is good to 700.

anyone on this board have an extra pair of valve covers laying around for the j series? pm me if so.

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Originally Posted by mrsteve
He doesn't go to the track anymore. :P
well not everyone lives at the track like you , but I think a few runs wouldn't hurt.
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Originally Posted by ThinJim
did you find cams? i've come up with nothing but dead ends. and who did you decide to go with on sleeves for the block?

800-1000 maybe a little wishful thinking, but who knows till the product is done. the head gaskets will have a little problem with that much boost to acheive that much hp, although it can be done once or twice. I'm looking for around 600-650 crank hp when i'm finished, my turbo and IC is good to 700.

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Hehe... 800-1000 is wishful thinking - I am thinking around 700 crank hp at the most. The head gasket won't be realiable at 800hp, although I am sure it can do a few dyno runs at that output level!
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
well not everyone lives at the track like you , but I think a few runs wouldn't hurt.
i think he has a tent set up outside mir. ps steve is gunna be hard to keep a girl when your always at the track
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And how do you keep all that power on the road with a FWD car?
That's what all the naysayers said about FWD civics and such that are now running 10 second and below 1/4 mile times
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
Isn't there a company who makes a beefed up A/T for the CL capable of handling high hp?
Yeah, it's called General Motors. 400TE I believe is the model number
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Originally Posted by thedream21479
That's what all the naysayers said about FWD civics and such that are now running 10 second and below 1/4 mile times

Yes on monsterous slicks, with a chasis that weighs about 1500lbs with the driver. Not the case with a CL-S.
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i think he has a tent set up outside mir. ps steve is gunna be hard to keep a girl when your always at the track

Unless I get one of the honeys that are always at the track.
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FWD Hondas now run 7's !!!
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Yes on monsterous slicks, with a chasis that weighs about 1500lbs with the driver. Not the case with a CL-S.
Not necessarily, there are plenty of cars that are full chassis, full interior with stereo's that are that fast. Albeit they start out much lighter than the CL, but then the CL would have such a hp and torque advantage.
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Hp and Torque advantage + weight disadvantage / traction disadvantage = Lots of tire smoke and less than opitmal ET's
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
And how do you keep all that power on the road with a FWD car?



someone is going to say slicks. But they have obvisoly never driven a car /w cheater or real slicks. you go no-where when it's wet. And you pickup every rock ont he road and throw it at your wheel well... Slicks on a CLS=ghetto anyway... (with the wheels sticking out of the wheel wells)

Props to the 800hp...

someone make a CRV-4 mod to convert these high HP cars to 4wd...

Allmotor, turing a near luxury car into a 7 second beast would make it a POS. Might as well use a different car.
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Originally Posted by thedream21479
That's what all the naysayers said about FWD civics and such that are now running 10 second and below 1/4 mile times
it's not a lot of them and they are real stripped down. Not to mention not very streetable... I've been in 2 turbo'd civics. They're useless off the line without slicks.... not to mention their handling is FAR from elegant....
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even now i think Ram should be on DR's on a daily basis. why the hell not?
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My car is in the shop right now... hopefully they arn't taking joy rides! I have a huge Dodge Magnum as a rental


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