Drifting with CL
12-31-2002, 11:22 AM
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ive gotten my rear end to come out on me around a turn a couple of times, but i wouldnt call it drifting....i think the only way to "drift" in FWD is to yank the ebrake....which im not gonna do anytime soon
12-31-2002, 01:32 PM
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In Order to really drift a FWD car you'll need to get the rear real solid with upper brace, lower brace and sway bar. This isn't the best really for all around driving because the rear is too solid and "slippy" but that's what you want.
E-brake drift is all you can do in a FWD car. Get into a corner a little hot, immediately let of the gas and apply handbrake carefully to slide out back end and then feather onto the clutch to pull the car out of the slide. That's about all you can do. It's a little more complicated than with a RWD car and the results aren't nearly as satisfying.
Good luck.
E-brake drift is all you can do in a FWD car. Get into a corner a little hot, immediately let of the gas and apply handbrake carefully to slide out back end and then feather onto the clutch to pull the car out of the slide. That's about all you can do. It's a little more complicated than with a RWD car and the results aren't nearly as satisfying.
Good luck.
12-31-2002, 05:06 PM
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Guess thats what they are calling Drifting these days. Not what the term drift was meant for, but looks like fun.
Its truly oversteer, but I guess an event called Oversteering wouldnt go over too good.
Drift is not oversteer.
included this link we had as a discussion, just an FYI.(tidbits of information)
Sometimes drifting is confused with sliding around the track. I attached this link since I do not know how to post a pic here. This link gives a short explaination of drift. Hope it helps. I have experienced true drift a few times while at the track in my car (AWD). When you have felt it, you will never forget that feeling.
Read the whole thread and you can see that alot of people have the wrong impression, and some in the thread try to help em out. I found it informative and even printed the page out.
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/770032.phtml
Wanted to add this post within that thread, sums it up nicely
If you are REALLY drifting, you are not trashing the tires...
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Posted by NASA racer on 2002-04-18 00:16:24
In Reply to: One of the head instructors showed/taught me how to do it in 2. posted by Bryce on 2002-04-17 23:50:35
the car is simply sliding 4-wheels from apex to track-out.
Oversteer and Understeer are two types of handling dynamic. Drift is ANOTHER one. Unfortunately, it seems that now the term "drift" has been applied to all forms of oversteer but that is simply not the correct useage of drift.
Drift is a perfect state of equalibrium where the driver simply holds the steering and throttle and the car glides from the apex to the track-out with minimum control input and maximum speed...it means you have both exceeded the tire's coeficient of friction AND maintained a steady-state cornering balance which means you are going as fast as you possibly can...the whole key to a drift is it's set up smoothly and when in process there should be nearly no control inputs except minor throttle and steering adjustments.
The person Nasaracer, is a professional racer as a hobby.
Its truly oversteer, but I guess an event called Oversteering wouldnt go over too good.
Drift is not oversteer.
included this link we had as a discussion, just an FYI.(tidbits of information)
Sometimes drifting is confused with sliding around the track. I attached this link since I do not know how to post a pic here. This link gives a short explaination of drift. Hope it helps. I have experienced true drift a few times while at the track in my car (AWD). When you have felt it, you will never forget that feeling.
Read the whole thread and you can see that alot of people have the wrong impression, and some in the thread try to help em out. I found it informative and even printed the page out.
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/770032.phtml
Wanted to add this post within that thread, sums it up nicely
If you are REALLY drifting, you are not trashing the tires...
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Posted by NASA racer on 2002-04-18 00:16:24
In Reply to: One of the head instructors showed/taught me how to do it in 2. posted by Bryce on 2002-04-17 23:50:35
the car is simply sliding 4-wheels from apex to track-out.
Oversteer and Understeer are two types of handling dynamic. Drift is ANOTHER one. Unfortunately, it seems that now the term "drift" has been applied to all forms of oversteer but that is simply not the correct useage of drift.
Drift is a perfect state of equalibrium where the driver simply holds the steering and throttle and the car glides from the apex to the track-out with minimum control input and maximum speed...it means you have both exceeded the tire's coeficient of friction AND maintained a steady-state cornering balance which means you are going as fast as you possibly can...the whole key to a drift is it's set up smoothly and when in process there should be nearly no control inputs except minor throttle and steering adjustments.
The person Nasaracer, is a professional racer as a hobby.
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12-31-2002, 07:57 PM
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This should not turn into a debate over semantics and high performance driving vocabulary.
For those that do not know, a drift in the pure racing world is as described above and there are other words like oversteer, understeer, powerslide and such are often used ans misused.
To clarify however I believe the thread was started to describe the "japanese style drifting sessions" as they have become known. As far as vocabulary, I think in this case we can agree that the term "drift" is referring to the japanese variation, ie: competitions that are held for money and prizes etc.
For those who don't know about the "drift sessions" in Japan. Look it up on the net. It's just a fun way to drive your car and compete (brand new in the US) and have a good time.
Keep it off the streets.
For those that do not know, a drift in the pure racing world is as described above and there are other words like oversteer, understeer, powerslide and such are often used ans misused.
To clarify however I believe the thread was started to describe the "japanese style drifting sessions" as they have become known. As far as vocabulary, I think in this case we can agree that the term "drift" is referring to the japanese variation, ie: competitions that are held for money and prizes etc.
For those who don't know about the "drift sessions" in Japan. Look it up on the net. It's just a fun way to drive your car and compete (brand new in the US) and have a good time.
Keep it off the streets.
is this a serious conversation!!!
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