Does modding your car make you nervous? Worth it?
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Does modding your car make you nervous? Worth it?
I am posting this in your forum because I visit it a lot and quiet a few of you modify your cars. Do your performance upgrades void your warranty in any way? And even if they don't, do you worry about long term reliability?
I ask because I have the opportunity to put in a high flow intake system with ECU upgrade to my '98 GS400. This will yield an additional 30hp and 40ft/lb torque. Normal price is $995, but I can get it for half that.
Now, my car still has 20K miles left on the standard warranty, and I extended it up to 100K. I really want to do this, but I don't know many people that have modified their car. Also, I have no idea where I will get it installed (NJ).
Thanks for any info, even though I drive an 'enemy' car. Here is a link with some info on the upgrade with pictures and dyno graphs.
http://www.swift-racing.com/vehicles.../intake400.htm
I ask because I have the opportunity to put in a high flow intake system with ECU upgrade to my '98 GS400. This will yield an additional 30hp and 40ft/lb torque. Normal price is $995, but I can get it for half that.
Now, my car still has 20K miles left on the standard warranty, and I extended it up to 100K. I really want to do this, but I don't know many people that have modified their car. Also, I have no idea where I will get it installed (NJ).
Thanks for any info, even though I drive an 'enemy' car. Here is a link with some info on the upgrade with pictures and dyno graphs.
http://www.swift-racing.com/vehicles.../intake400.htm
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It has been in a few other threads, but unless the car manufacturer can prove that the mod directly caused the malfunction, they can't void your warranty.
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WOW! That's a killer increase for an intake on a N/A car for less than $500! I'd do it. You're talking N/A here .vs forced induction where so many people push the boost level too high and f*ck something up.
What's that gonna do to your 0-60 and 1/4 times? Interesting, to say the least. Get ready to go through rear tires.
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What's that gonna do to your 0-60 and 1/4 times? Interesting, to say the least. Get ready to go through rear tires.
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Yeah, that's a no-brainer... a huge increase in hp per dollar spent. As someone else said, it won't do anything to your warranty. The dealer has to prove that it caused the failure of something else. I think it's very safe to lightly - moderately modify cars. Manufacturers build them to handle more power than they have. It's a matter of finding a balance between more power and less reliability. On a good car like a Lexus or Acura, you have to REALLY bump up the power output before you start seriously jeopardizing your reliability.
Go for it... you won't be disappointed!!
Go for it... you won't be disappointed!!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by droideka:
WOW! That's a killer increase for an intake on a N/A car for less than $500! (snip)</font>
WOW! That's a killer increase for an intake on a N/A car for less than $500! (snip)</font>
As far as the "enemy" car thing... don't sweat it, as long as you're a nice guy, we don't care what you drive
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Thats quite a substantial increase, and it doesn't seem like it will be over working the engine.
I'd go for it. You don't have much to lose, the chances of having major problems with that type of mod are very very slim.
I'd go for it. You don't have much to lose, the chances of having major problems with that type of mod are very very slim.
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The thing about installing an ECU is that it is very hard to notice on your car, even for the dealer. If they do know that you have an ECU, YES they will void your warranty, and blame that on everything. A lot of people that have Audi A4's had big issues going to dealers for warranty work, because of chip upgrades. In my old integra, I did not upgrade the ECU, but I did have intake , headers, exhaust, and springs. The dealer blamed all my perf. mods, when my engine had problems. Conclusion..if a dealer wants to be a prick, and not give you your warranty..they can do it. I know first hand. I called Acura, I had lawyers trying to help me, and no luck. This is why I am so hesitant in modding my car. I had a nightmare with the integra, and frankly I dont want to go through with it again.
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Damm thats a huge increase in Hp for an intake or for a ECU, whate4ver it ie. Man so the car would have 330 HP after, that is crazy, and that is more than a stck Supra turbo. MAn, i wanted that car soo bad, so i could have 4 guys in the car and race my friends corvettes comv. BUt got my cl-s and he has a gti vr4 now, so i am happy smokin his ass everyday since.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spiroh:
The thing about installing an ECU is that it is very hard to notice on your car, even for the dealer. If they do know that you have an ECU, YES they will void your warranty, and blame that on everything. A lot of people that have Audi A4's had big issues going to dealers for warranty work, because of chip upgrades. In my old integra, I did not upgrade the ECU, but I did have intake , headers, exhaust, and springs. The dealer blamed all my perf. mods, when my engine had problems. Conclusion..if a dealer wants to be a prick, and not give you your warranty..they can do it. I know first hand. I called Acura, I had lawyers trying to help me, and no luck. This is why I am so hesitant in modding my car. I had a nightmare with the integra, and frankly I dont want to go through with it again.</font>
The thing about installing an ECU is that it is very hard to notice on your car, even for the dealer. If they do know that you have an ECU, YES they will void your warranty, and blame that on everything. A lot of people that have Audi A4's had big issues going to dealers for warranty work, because of chip upgrades. In my old integra, I did not upgrade the ECU, but I did have intake , headers, exhaust, and springs. The dealer blamed all my perf. mods, when my engine had problems. Conclusion..if a dealer wants to be a prick, and not give you your warranty..they can do it. I know first hand. I called Acura, I had lawyers trying to help me, and no luck. This is why I am so hesitant in modding my car. I had a nightmare with the integra, and frankly I dont want to go through with it again.</font>
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Well, the dealer will definately see the upgraded ECU because you have to slice into the old one...
You guys do seem to be very comfortable with this kind of stuff, so I am leaning towards doing it more now. At clublexus.com there is a huge debate raging over this topic, but since I am nearing the end of my standard warranty I am not TOO nervous.
Urirx, even more sick then the HP is the torque, going to around 355 would be sweet. I do love the CL-S, that is why we will most likely get one for my wife.
You guys do seem to be very comfortable with this kind of stuff, so I am leaning towards doing it more now. At clublexus.com there is a huge debate raging over this topic, but since I am nearing the end of my standard warranty I am not TOO nervous.
Urirx, even more sick then the HP is the torque, going to around 355 would be sweet. I do love the CL-S, that is why we will most likely get one for my wife.
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