jdtypeS

Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once. we both have 18 inch wheels so i know that wouldnt be a factor. His car is just so quick off the line its not funny, so much more traction. Where in my case i would peel out like a bitch. I even tried to gradually punch it so it wouldnt peel out. The best race we had was when i was driving his car and he was using SS and VSA. I guess he got quicker off the line or something. All in all, im just disappointed in my car

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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

Crippen

I hear ya.

Glad to see a realistic CL-S owner.

I don't believe all these insane stories of 330/M3/Audi S4 kills, makes no sense.


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Black 2001 CL-S
Comptech Headers

eclipse23

Now it was a street race so factor in all the variables you like but I beat on 2X light from light. (330 that is) S4 and M3 kills are a whole other can of worms.



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Piaa 19169 Bulbs
Valentine1 Pig Detector
CompTech Exhaust 4/16
XEPHYR CAI (Yahoo!)
Founding Member of the NO SCRATCHED RIMS CLUB

01'Acura Integra GSR

Ashburner

I test drove a 330i before i bought my CL-S. I was impressed but I wouldn't consider it that much of an improvement. With the options that I wanted (all standard on the Acura) the car came out to over $42,000. And it still didn't have Xenon lights... What a joke! (Although I almost dished out 52K for an M3)

-Ash

Crippen

I'd sooner believe your 330 kill than the M3/S4 .. that's just too much.

But light->light you beat him? I'm a bit surprised as they have much better take-off and more power to the wheels than our car. Anything is possible though.



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Black 2001 CL-S
Comptech Headers

soopa

Well.

I cant say Ive ran against a 330 yet... but I dunno...

I kinda do find it a bit hard to believe a CL-S/w CAI losing by much to a 330i

Have you ever checked that your 2nd stage intake valve thingy is working properly?

Other then that. I just dont know.... and Id be dissapointed to.

Im sure he had the sport package... why dont you invest in some grippy tires for traction? I mean... im sure he invested in some tires for the winter, no?

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

jdtypeS

Well then eclipse, you tell me how i was beat everytime then. If you can beat the 330's with just your xypher cai. I dunno if it was his better gear ratios or what because i noticed when his car changed gears, mine was still climbing towards red line...

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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

Crippen

His sig says he's got the Toyo T1S' already .. ?


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R.I.P Integra Type-R #932
Black 2001 CL-S
Comptech Headers

soopa

Well damn. I just dont know

jdtypeS

he didnt have sport package, but i think he has the other one. I didnt loose by bad , maybe a car length or two, but c'mon. Thats still pretty bad considering i have 45 more HP or something, ven though my car is heavier, but still...

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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

soopa

He had an automatic? And he whooped you?

Damn. That would give me a lot of doubt about our cars.

jdtypeS

Yup, he had automatic with SS. He used Automatic most of the time though.

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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

soopa

This is a joke right?

Auto 330-sedan w/o sport package???

C'mon... your pullin our chain! stop it!

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

Black CL-S 4-Life

Does your friend have a stick or an auto?
Sorry you already answered the question.


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Drive Fast Live Fast!

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jdtypeS

By the way soopa, there is no winter in Florida haha

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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

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jdtypeS

Black CL-S.... it was an auto tranny

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Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

WebToker

Our cars are not that fast. They need way more power for the weight of the car. I still love the looks of it and the comfort but I wish it had more power.


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Wyle E. Coyote

I agree, it's the weight that kills us. Although the Bimmers have less hp than us, we are much heavier and have FWD, which certainly doesn't help. Trannys are another story altogether.



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2001 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Satin Silver/Ebony
No Navi/No Spoiler
Competch springs
35% tint
PIAA 19169 bulbs
K&N 33-2178 air filter

The Aviation Zone

StonedCL

iTrader: (1)

My best friend got a 2000 328 is and i take hime till about 100 then he flys by me, and he also wins at the twisties.

dlp

Maybe it's the blue bulbs?!? :-)

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2001 CL Type S w/ NAV & Spoiler. San Marino Red/Parchment int. Purchased 2/28/01.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1584587&a=12058921

Acura S

dude, you said that your doing alot of spinning even with good rubber? what if you guys did a slow rolling start would he still beat you???

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Spoiler, mflaps, wheel well trim, dark dark tint, nose mask, polarg m6's, lead foot
F250 SD 4x4
201 PE STRATOS w/225hp Johnson

jdtypeS

not sure with a slow rolling start. Probably though, i mean with the way his car responds and reacts its still quicker. by the time i floor it, my car will be gathering its torque, etc.. and he will be gone, i dunno, i guess ill just have to try tHAT TOMARROW or later tonight... OH ya, it might be the blue bulbs

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www.mp3.com/djjdize
Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

dlp

how much gas is in the tank? If you have 18" rims with good tires, and you are still squealing, it means there is not enough weight over the back tires to plant the rubber...

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2001 CL Type S w/ NAV & Spoiler. San Marino Red/Parchment int. Purchased 2/28/01.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1584587&a=12058921

NOVAwhiteTypeS

Beating a m3 is a can of worms??? WTF!!!

Next time I'll try to get it on film of me graddually pulling away from my buddies m3. If its auto a type S w/ headers WILL pull on it. no joke. manual diff story.

Also if the 330 was a manual it can drop the gear at a higher rpm than our type S starting at 1000.

the only thing im dissapointed in my type S is the MUTHA F@#$@ken paint!!

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White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
me.

gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.

jdtypeS

I drove both cars, and we both had about a qtr tank.

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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

DtEW

Hey jdtypeS, is this your friend?

http://www.bimmer.org/3series/messag...ges/91356.html
http://www.bimmer.org/3series/messag...ges/91355.html
http://www.bimmer.org/3series/messag...ges/91351.html

(Yes, he posted the same thing three times. Why is he calling himself "arrogantBMWdriver"??? )

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saabman4ever

I thought the difference here would be that the 330 achieved its peak torque at lower RPM's, but after doing a comparison (www.edmunds.com) the bimmer achievs 214 ft-lbs @ 3500 while the CL does 232 ft-lbs @ 3500 RPM's. The only other thing I can think of is that the 330 is about 400lbs lighter.

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I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom.
General Patton

Mike

If it was me I'd go find and race on a road that the CL could hook up on. If the CL could hook up I'll bet it would be a different story.

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech:Headers, Springs & Sways
AEM CAI
Toyo T1S Proxys 235/45/17
SSR Competition wheels 17x8
35% Llumar metallic tint
My Car

Closer

It's your rubber. You may think Toyo is a good tire (which it may be), but it's not going to compare to the Pirelli P-Zero tires. P-Zero's compete with Pilot Sports and Pole Positions. My TL-S with Headers and intake doesn't even peel out, with STOCK tires.

That and aren't your wheels 18" chrome? Geez... talk about weight. While he's running Momo race inspired wheels you're running show wheels. Your wheels/tire combo alone probably lost your .2-.3 off your 60 ft.

e1828

Take the car over 130 mph..topspeed on the 330 is 128mph.. you'll get him at 130 for sure.. haha.

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2001 Satin silver CL-S
* no navi, spoiler, mudguards
* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim

jdtypeS

yup, thats his post oh well. maybe it is the tires, if i get new ones, i dont have to get 4 new ones do i? Just the front ones, right? cuz there like brand new, well about a month or so.


He calls himself arrograntBMWdriver i guess because he is spoiled, and whenever we play half life he uses that name haha. prob. couldnt think of anything else
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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

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4pumpedCL

Try driving a 3" bodydropped 1990 Toyota single cab everyday....it makes the CL experience 100 times more enjoyable.

-Aaron

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2001 CL-P, new project undergoing complete reconstruction. As of now: Custom CAI fabricated by SRD, Polarg M6 bulbs, 4 ProHopper Chrome hydraulic pumps with whammy tanks, 4 ProHopper dumps, 4 Optima marine deep-cycle batteries, 4 switches. Much much more to come...

1997 Accord coupe EX-L. Chrome suspension, Chrome motor, every bolt-on imaginable. One pump, 8 dump hydraulics with accumulators. Leather, Billet grills, 18" Neeper Shadows...etc..etc http://www.artofnoize.com/Cars/aaron.htm

1990 Toyota standard cab. Bodydropped 3". 17" KMC Nemesis', extensive suspension work. 4 wheel airbags.

tel1sps

Sorry but ya gonna have to borrow whatever money ya need to beat mr. arrogrant bmw....

Get ssr comp's with better tires....



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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
Comptech Headers, Sways, mufflers
Planning: SSR 17X8 Competition Wheels, Brembo Brakes.

Al Uminum

As most have correctly said, its the weight. Along with the 400lb weight difference (as someone pointed out) your 18" rims (are they chrome) do not help getting up to speed. Imagine your launching with two 200lb folks in your car along with a very large Labrador (to account for your Giovanna's). I know when I have two average sized people in my ride the car is not at all peppy. Ask your friend for another go. Then have two or three Russian grandmothers hop into his car. Remove about 1/2 your gasoline. Take out your seats except the driver and I'll put lots o money on you. Then arrogant BMWowner will be nicked as pissedonBMWowner.
Deal?

Good Luck

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"01" CL Type-S
White\Black
Comptech Springs
Comptech Sways
Navigation System
Burlwood Shifter
Guards+Fenderwell Trim
PIAA16969
Smokers Package
My Car

Caddyİ

I think the Rear Wheels help Quite a Bit, IMHO

MCHM3

i think its your heavy ass rims and maybe u dont know how to launch the car

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2001 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, iceman cold air intake(custom)nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter and b&m tranny cooler)3.5 litre upgrade on april 16!(dommed topped pistons, mdx crankshaft, rods , bearings, heads ported and polished, vtec timing

my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
my cl http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...064&Sequence=0

jdtypeS

i think its my heavy ass rims. i know how to launch the car very well, i tried a couple different ways of launching, so i know it wasnt me.. oh well, guess ill have to put on the stock rims and then try...

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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)

2Sxy4YoMama

Damm...I need to race my friends M# and find out too.

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2001 CL-S Satin Silver/Ebnoy
Spoiler, moonroof visor, 20% Tint,
PIAA 19173/19170
Mobil 1 Oil/Oil Filter
X-Pel/Upgrade Cup Holder
Clifford G4 Solaris Remote Start Car Alarm

Just order: AEM CAI/Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
On its way: Comptech Sway Bar/Brake Line/WS Apexi Coilover

EricL

There is nothing wrong with the tires (although I don't have the exact same size as you do). How heavy are the wheels?

If you go to an 18" wheel, it needs to be about 3 lbs lighter than the stock 17" wheels to spin-up the same (have the same rotational inertia). (The 3 lbs is an approximation only -- OK)

If you go to a very light 17" rim or a very light 18" rim (I believe Astroboy comes to mind) you would probably be better off.

The Bimmer is lighter, has a manual, and in stock form beats the Acura. So, an AEM only gets you about 5HP and you may be losing the equivalent of 10HP in the wheels, so according to the car mags and tests, you SHOULD LOSE!!!

(This is just my opinion -- everything is a trade off.)

BTW -- I have to abuse the car to get a the tires to break loose on acceleration (and we talking about a little rub (no squeal) for such a short time, that I couldn't qualify how little it is...




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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
• Comptech headers & sways ready
• Silver AEM CAI ready
• 6 coats of Zaino magic

moomaster_99

You're not launching correctly...a little peel and you should go....obviously you were giving full throttle at the launch. You should peel a bit and then you should hook up and spin it to redline....Hmmm...I think that perhaps the BMW takes less skill to drive...that would make some sense...


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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!)