Dilemma of CL-P and CL-S...
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Dilemma of CL-P and CL-S...
Hopefully EVERYONE can follow along. Making it short and sweet as possible,
descriptions of each car.
Would like some input as it will assist in my final decision of another DD...
Car A. = 2001 Acura CL-P (auto with 166k miles). Has damaged (L) fender and Driver door from Mr. Deer. A plain Jane car with tan interior...ALL items in/out works!
Car B. = Acura CL-S (auto with 56k miles and few mods). NO exterior damage. Previous FLOOD car. 99% of items works. Check eng light is on and code is P1607 (WE all know what it is). But maynot actually mean as it states...
My initial thoughts were to use Car B as a Parts car for Car A.
2nd thought was to hash out any/all issue(s) with Car B and keep along with Car A since I am an Acura Car Whore...(currently have too many Acuras).
I am now thinking of NOT dealing with Car B as "electrical Gremlins" may exist later down the road. Even though 99% of car is in working order and runs fine, currently.
I am thinking of swapping the CL-S' powertrain, mods (i.e. suspension, sway bars, strut bar, wheels, CAI) over to Car A (CL-P) since is has 56k miles. Did a compression & leak down test and all is well!!!
I have no intentions of a 6 speed car as I already have one ('05 TL). So, need need to suggest that.
Thanks in advance.
descriptions of each car.
Would like some input as it will assist in my final decision of another DD...
Car A. = 2001 Acura CL-P (auto with 166k miles). Has damaged (L) fender and Driver door from Mr. Deer. A plain Jane car with tan interior...ALL items in/out works!
Car B. = Acura CL-S (auto with 56k miles and few mods). NO exterior damage. Previous FLOOD car. 99% of items works. Check eng light is on and code is P1607 (WE all know what it is). But maynot actually mean as it states...
My initial thoughts were to use Car B as a Parts car for Car A.
2nd thought was to hash out any/all issue(s) with Car B and keep along with Car A since I am an Acura Car Whore...(currently have too many Acuras).
I am now thinking of NOT dealing with Car B as "electrical Gremlins" may exist later down the road. Even though 99% of car is in working order and runs fine, currently.
I am thinking of swapping the CL-S' powertrain, mods (i.e. suspension, sway bars, strut bar, wheels, CAI) over to Car A (CL-P) since is has 56k miles. Did a compression & leak down test and all is well!!!
I have no intentions of a 6 speed car as I already have one ('05 TL). So, need need to suggest that.
Your thoughts/comments/suggestions etc etc etc.
Thanks in advance.
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i would never get electrical parts from a flooded car. specially one that was recent. because down the line, what ever u pull out will start to deteriorate. specially the hearness itself.
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"Never buy flood car" or "I wouldn't either" are both responses neither here nor there at this point in time. I have bought flooded cars in the past and "knock on wood" worked out to this day.
Moving forward, keep responses coming.
Thank you.
Moving forward, keep responses coming.
Thank you.
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not to rain on your parade but getting an auto CL for either a DD or project is not a smart move. Reliability is gone due to the tranny and so is its potential to put down power. Since you have other cars, why not get something in RWD or AWD and go from there? Start with a good platform.
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If I were you, I'd look for another CL-S.
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How is my response to yours or the other member "bitching"? You made a statement. I responded. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
To all responses thus far, greatly appreciated.
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not to rain on your parade but getting an auto CL for either a DD or project is not a smart move. Reliability is gone due to the tranny and so is its potential to put down power. Since you have other cars, why not get something in RWD or AWD and go from there? Start with a good platform.
Why not look into tranny swap as Member p.diddy did on his CL?
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or get rid of the crappy china internals on the auto and rebuild it with super strong high heat capacity gears and clutches.. Alto usa makes everything you need to go balls to the walls. for 500
but no that can't work cause I did it...and NO ONE else has.
a tranny cooler helps too, along with jet kit removal. and a trans temperature gauge will make you CRY if you all only KNEW how friggin hot the auto trans gets without a cooler... ohhhhhh budday.
this site likes followers mostly. or else you get a lot of static usually
anyhoo, i hope you get a CL and love it to death.
but no that can't work cause I did it...and NO ONE else has.
a tranny cooler helps too, along with jet kit removal. and a trans temperature gauge will make you CRY if you all only KNEW how friggin hot the auto trans gets without a cooler... ohhhhhh budday.
this site likes followers mostly. or else you get a lot of static usually
anyhoo, i hope you get a CL and love it to death.
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oh and by the way... the car shifts SO frigging fast 1st to second it's like driving standard now. wheels will chirp PERIOD now going into second.
and tiptronic makes the shifts faster now I can clearly see/feel the difference. Auto guys you are allll missing out.
I bet I gained a .3 just with the quick shifts.. literally...
if you got in my cl you'd think i have an F1 tranny. muahhahahah
and tiptronic makes the shifts faster now I can clearly see/feel the difference. Auto guys you are allll missing out.
I bet I gained a .3 just with the quick shifts.. literally...
if you got in my cl you'd think i have an F1 tranny. muahhahahah
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or get rid of the crappy china internals on the auto and rebuild it with super strong high heat capacity gears and clutches.. Alto usa makes everything you need to go balls to the walls. for 500
but no that can't work cause I did it...and NO ONE else has.
a tranny cooler helps too, along with jet kit removal. and a trans temperature gauge will make you CRY if you all only KNEW how friggin hot the auto trans gets without a cooler... ohhhhhh budday.
this site likes followers mostly. or else you get a lot of static usually
anyhoo, i hope you get a CL and love it to death.
but no that can't work cause I did it...and NO ONE else has.
a tranny cooler helps too, along with jet kit removal. and a trans temperature gauge will make you CRY if you all only KNEW how friggin hot the auto trans gets without a cooler... ohhhhhh budday.
this site likes followers mostly. or else you get a lot of static usually
anyhoo, i hope you get a CL and love it to death.
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to answer the OP's question my personal opinion i wouldnt buy either one but if i had to choose i would go with the cl-p and switch in a cl-s engine with either a tl or oddy tranny.
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I wouldnt buy either. But if you were to swap the CL-S engine into the P, the wiring harness needs to be swapped as well, that could pose a problem as the car has been flooded. You may have had good luck with flooded cars in the past but its really a 50/50 chance on what can happen in this instance. But, Im getting the feeling you've already made up your mind.
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No point in swapping harness from CLS if its flooded, like I said earlier.
I'd pass on both cars and stay away from the headache.
If u have to pick between the two for what ever reason and have no other options then for sure go with ur initial thoughts.
Again, if u do swap type-s motor in along with the harness, all I gotta say is "good luck" when the connections start rusting out and detoriate. U will never be able to find out exactly which one went out. And one will follow another and so on.
I'd pass on both cars and stay away from the headache.
If u have to pick between the two for what ever reason and have no other options then for sure go with ur initial thoughts.
Again, if u do swap type-s motor in along with the harness, all I gotta say is "good luck" when the connections start rusting out and detoriate. U will never be able to find out exactly which one went out. And one will follow another and so on.
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or get rid of the crappy china internals on the auto and rebuild it with super strong high heat capacity gears and clutches.. Alto usa makes everything you need to go balls to the walls. for 500
but no that can't work cause I did it...and NO ONE else has.
a tranny cooler helps too, along with jet kit removal. and a trans temperature gauge will make you CRY if you all only KNEW how friggin hot the auto trans gets without a cooler... ohhhhhh budday.
this site likes followers mostly. or else you get a lot of static usually
anyhoo, i hope you get a CL and love it to death.
but no that can't work cause I did it...and NO ONE else has.
a tranny cooler helps too, along with jet kit removal. and a trans temperature gauge will make you CRY if you all only KNEW how friggin hot the auto trans gets without a cooler... ohhhhhh budday.
this site likes followers mostly. or else you get a lot of static usually
anyhoo, i hope you get a CL and love it to death.
I do hope that this new one works out for you because it would really suck to have to fork out more money over that transmission.
but *if* it fails again I promise you I will be one of the first to laugh
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No point in swapping harness from CLS if its flooded, like I said earlier.
I'd pass on both cars and stay away from the headache.
If u have to pick between the two for what ever reason and have no other options then for sure go with ur initial thoughts.
Again, if u do swap type-s motor in along with the harness, all I gotta say is "good luck" when the connections start rusting out and detoriate. U will never be able to find out exactly which one went out. And one will follow another and so on.
I'd pass on both cars and stay away from the headache.
If u have to pick between the two for what ever reason and have no other options then for sure go with ur initial thoughts.
Again, if u do swap type-s motor in along with the harness, all I gotta say is "good luck" when the connections start rusting out and detoriate. U will never be able to find out exactly which one went out. And one will follow another and so on.
LOL, would be pointless to swap the harness. I would just buy a new one from Acura.
Mind has been made. Swapping the CL-S crap to CL-P and whatever remains (which will be interior, glass, etc) gets parted out and junking shell.
Again, thank you ALL for the critique section.
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may I ask why you won't consider any CLs that you'd actually want to buy?
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I don't think the autos are THAT bad. As a nine year member here, I say do the 3X3 trans fluid change often, use synth trans fluid, add a tranny cooler, don't use the manumatic shifter much if at all, don't hold third gear (D3), and do not downshift from D5 to D3 on the highway to pass someone or to race someone. At long red lights or in traffic jams, do not sit there in Drive, shift to Neutral. Keep the tranny cool! I hope this helps the OP, it's just my 2CW.
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