Which Clutch should I get for my 2003 6 speed CL?
I'm having a hard time deciding, mainly due to the price of the aftermarket clutch master kit, and limited production on replacement clutches!!
So i've decided to make a poll to get the general opinion, hoping that will help me decide.....:thumbsup: My options are: 1. Acura/Honda OEM replacement, Price is 310 2. Exedy oe replacement, Price is 320 3. Mrheeltoe clutch kit, (whenever available) Price is comparable to CM kit. 4. Clutch Masters kit w/ lightweight flywheel (stage 1, or 3) Price is 1100-1300 Discuss! Would like to replace it soon, however should I save money for the clutchmaster kit? |
What are your current mods? What are your power goals?
Give us a little more info to help you make a decision. |
well currently i just have a K&N drop in filter, keeping it Naturally aspirated I believe, unless I find a Comptech supercharger that I can afford....
eventually i'll be adding common bolt on's such as headers, lighter crank pulley, short ram or cold air intake, and possibly a greddy exhaust since I have a midpipe.... I don't intend on selling this car.....I'm looking toward the OEM replacements since they are only 300, and in my price range....eventually I feel the decesion will be between the Exedy/Daiken or the OEM Honda/Acura kit!!!! |
I would go for OEM. The "jiggling" it makes after you shift, from the OEM clutch, is what makes this car more fun to drive than your average manual transmission. If you have a 6-Speed CL you know what im talking about...
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If your looking towards the lower end of the price spectrum, just go with the Honda unit.
However my money is with ClutchMasters when the time comes. Jacob - I dont know what jiggling your talking about. |
i have heard that CM ones arent good for our cars i recommend oem as well CM start sliping after couple thousand miles. oem one grabs good with CTSC even after 100k miles ofc depend on the driver. but if you go oem replace flywheel too. i just resurfaced it and its not so smooth as i expected
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I haven't heard of any instances of the CM slipping on our cars. Do you have links?
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
(Post 11396100)
I haven't heard of any instances of the CM slipping on our cars. Do you have links?
cb717cls: So has anyone figured out a good clutch setup to put in there car? i have a boosted cl and put a CM fx300 setup in it after about 3500 miles it is starting to slip. i dont know if i should go to the fx400 6 puck or is there something better that will last and hold up? |
Originally Posted by civicdrivr
(Post 11395979)
If your looking towards the lower end of the price spectrum, just go with the Honda unit.
However my money is with ClutchMasters when the time comes. Jacob - I dont know what jiggling your talking about. |
I'm leaning toward the OEM Honda replacement....it is actually the cheapest after shipping....
I feel that its capable of handling those bolt ons... |
i have an OE one too and i have no jiggling
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There's no jiggling in my shifter. It feels tight. Could be a tad bit tighter. I'd like those corsport bushings. I'm using the Honda MTF but plan on switching to the GM stuff that everyone raves about.
OP- I say if the bolt-ons that you want were already on the car I might think of a performance clutch. However they are not. You may never get to them. But later on if you did some NA or SC mods you should be fine with a new oem clutch. From what I've read the stock unit can hold up to an awful lot of punishment.:2cents: |
Originally Posted by phee
(Post 11396415)
i have an OE one too and i have no jiggling
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Originally Posted by SlickShiftNall6
(Post 11396438)
There's no jiggling in my shifter. It feels tight. Could be a tad bit tighter. I'd like those corsport bushings. I'm using the Honda MTF but plan on switching to the GM stuff that everyone raves about.
OP- I say if the bolt-ons that you want were already on the car I might think of a performance clutch. However they are not. You may never get to them. But later on if you did some NA or SC mods you should be fine with a new oem clutch. From what I've read the stock unit can hold up to an awful lot of punishment.:2cents:
Originally Posted by Jacobpockros
(Post 11396443)
Yeah but your car is alot different than a CL. My previous CL did it too. This calls for a video......
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Yup im talking about the syncromesh fm to be exact. Everyone likes it. The honda stuff was good for a while and better than the regular oil that was in it. But now my shifts feel notchy again so its out. Soon.
I've got lots of bolt-ons right now and 47k. My clutch still grabs like crazy... I'm happy with it. Don't see a replacement in my future until this one fails. |
Originally Posted by 3.2VtecTL
(Post 11395815)
well currently i just have a K&N drop in filter, keeping it Naturally aspirated I believe, unless I find a Comptech supercharger that I can afford....
eventually i'll be adding common bolt on's such as headers, lighter crank pulley, short ram or cold air intake, and possibly a greddy exhaust since I have a midpipe.... I don't intend on selling this car.....I'm looking toward the OEM replacements since they are only 300, and in my price range....eventually I feel the decesion will be between the Exedy/Daiken or the OEM Honda/Acura kit!!!! also exedy is just the american brand/name for Daiken and the oe cluch should have no problem holding the power with only bolt ons also by the time you buy one cm clutch you could have bought 3-4 oe clutches minus labour |
also remember to include the throw out bearing and pilot bearing prices if they are not included in the clutch kits:2cents: cause those will need to be done too
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
(Post 11396100)
I haven't heard of any instances of the CM slipping on our cars. Do you have links?
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My thread with pics of old clutch
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-problems-fixes-70/need-help-clutch-cls6-734847/ Pseudomaniac's thread https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/clutchmasters-acura-cl-6s-clutch-732514/ The TL forum https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/clutch-master-clutch-sucks-726212/ |
As far as I know, the OEM unit is the only one with a self adjusting pressure plate. For cost and your mods, OEM is the way I would go unless you don't like the way the dual mass flywheel drives.
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and here is the 3D animation of Dual Mass Flywheel how does it looks like and how does it work... and i would not mess with it just go OEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnaXB8q3uzQ http://www.high-impact.net/transmiss...svsSolidFW.htm |
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i would go with the Oem for your setup since u dont have too many mods right now it should hold up to the mods ur gonna be putting into it too. Cm was a good clutch for the first 3k miles im still waiting on them to see if they can figure out what happened to it.
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Jacob - Right now Im running the OEM unit. A video is definately needed.
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
(Post 11397895)
Jacob - Right now Im running the OEM unit. A video is definately needed.
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Ok, i just made a video as promised. Turn your volume up all the way, the video isn't very loud. You can clearly hear the "Jiggling" after each of my shifts when i am shifting at normal RPM's in the first half of the video. You can also just ignore when i started to go fast, i did that part for fun :wish:. (PS.- Sorry for the bad shifting when i was flooring it, my clutch is slipping and is going to get replaced.)
http://s146.photobucket.com/albums/r...t=P1000279.flv |
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I think that "jiggling" is either from a slipping clutch or letting off the clutch too fast when you're changing gears. I used to do it when I first started driving stick. I don't see how that could be more fun than hearing a smooth shift. |
nope my previous cl did it too and it had a new clutch. I am shifting the car properly, if i let it out slower that would just be over-reving it
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bad motor mount my friend but it may be something else
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you think it's a bad motor mount?
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i think it might be a bad motor mount yeah but make sure b4 u order anything
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I'm not going to hi-jack this thread, but how can i check if it's bad?
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heh i saw its bad when i took it off fluid was leaking
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i'll check it out then. Now back to clutches....
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
(Post 11400026)
bad motor mount my friend but it may be something else
or a worn shifter pivot or something is your shifter tight:rolleyes: and not have play in it |
i dont now about the shifting in that video. my car doesnt do thAt and im sure no one elses does. i have a bad mount and it doesnt jiggle.
that definitely looks like poor shift technique |
I think the census helped me decide on a new OEM Honda/Acura Clutch!!!!
Placing order now! |
Doesnt honda offer a single mass flywheel for the V6 accord that we can use? I swore i read that somewhere.
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Originally Posted by phee
(Post 11400320)
i dont now about the shifting in that video. my car doesnt do thAt and im sure no one elses does. i have a bad mount and it doesnt jiggle.
that definitely looks like poor shift technique Also, you have a TL with the CL swap, there could be 50+ reasons for shifting differences. Your car has a different structure than a CL with a slightly different weight distribution this could also be why your car has a different feel when shifting. |
Originally Posted by Jacobpockros
(Post 11400747)
Also, you have a TL with the CL swap, there could be 50+ reasons for shifting differences. Your car has a different structure than a CL with a slightly different weight distribution this could also be why your car has a different feel when shifting.
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