CLS-6 vs 07' 335i
12-25-2010, 12:21 PM
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If you really want to go oldschool Hondas first car in the states was RWD. Where did they go wrong? 
12-25-2010, 01:01 PM
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I bet a CSL could give the NSX a run for its money.
So do you admit the 335 > CL?
So do you admit the 335 > CL?
12-25-2010, 01:34 PM
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Oh, and to reaffirm the Vettes handling, the C6 Z06 (sold for the same price as the NSX) got around in 7:42.99 in 2005, the last year of the NSX.
The NA1 NSX-R went around in 8:03 January 2006 with the airbags and spare tire removed. In August 2002, another NSX-R with sport tires and suspension mods could only muster an 8:09 (which an M6 tied in 2005 with a 161mph limiter, a Z8 beat it in 2001 with an 8:07, and an E92 beat it in 2007 with an 8:05). In 97 (first year of the 3.2l and 6MT), the NSX managed an 8:38 - which a Focus, yes, a FORD FOCUS beat by three seconds.
I spy an NSX
12-25-2010, 01:52 PM
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12-25-2010, 01:54 PM
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12-25-2010, 02:02 PM
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12-25-2010, 02:25 PM
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You said the that top speed was a factor with the NSX and that was why it was unfair on the ring when compared to a Focus. But then you agree that the NSX can reach as high if not higer top speed then the Focus. So what about the ring makes it more parcial to the Focus vs the NSX? You are not making any sense at all.
should I have expected anything less from you? :thumbsdow
12-25-2010, 02:55 PM
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Isn't that what we're talking about? Performance? And overall probably yes, too. Need I remind you the NSX was manufactured until 2005?
Autocross is so tight and technically that I could probably beat an NSX's time with a Geo Metro.
Okay, probably not, but you get the point.
12-25-2010, 02:59 PM
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FTR a wider body can do as much bad as it can good I wouldn't want a wide car through some slow corners.
12-25-2010, 02:59 PM
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Isn't that what we're talking about? Performance? And overall probably yes, too. Need I remind you the NSX was manufactured until 2005?
Nurburgring is the world standard for everybody because it tests EVERYTHING, and handling is pretty big. Pretty much every track ever built has a straightaway.
Autocross is so tight and technically that I could probably beat an NSX's time with a Geo Metro.
Okay, probably not, but you get the point.
No, he does not. Clearly!
12-25-2010, 03:22 PM
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Well what do you think the ring is?
You said the that top speed was a factor with the NSX and that was why it was unfair on the ring when compared to a Focus. But then you agree that the NSX can reach as high if not higer top speed then the Focus. So what about the ring makes it more parcial to the Focus vs the NSX? You are not making any sense at all.
should I have expected anything less from you? :thumbsdow
You said the that top speed was a factor with the NSX and that was why it was unfair on the ring when compared to a Focus. But then you agree that the NSX can reach as high if not higer top speed then the Focus. So what about the ring makes it more parcial to the Focus vs the NSX? You are not making any sense at all.
should I have expected anything less from you? :thumbsdow
Also, should I expect anything less from you after your TL vs CL "owned" comment in that other thread?
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12-25-2010, 03:25 PM
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My bad, but you really think that a CL-S is better than a 335... 
12-25-2010, 03:28 PM
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How stupid is this kid?
Any rational person, given the cars were priced relatively closely (32k for a CLS vs. mid/high 30s for a 335i) if produced in the same period would more then likely 9 outta 10 times pick the BMW. More power, more torque, RWD, much better handling. Barely handle better? Your using your stock CL as a measuring stick? Get outta here kid.
Your fanaticism is ridiculous but then again you're a proven idiot. You rag on a car you don't have and with those pep boy racer wheels, can't obviously afford.
The only thing that Hondas have is reliability over the BMW, but thats the price you pay to play. And if you want to level the playing fields, look how many people on these boards have blown their motors by upping the ante. And standard boltons are not considered adding considerable power as to produce similar numbers you need to stroke or boost the motor.
Any rational person, given the cars were priced relatively closely (32k for a CLS vs. mid/high 30s for a 335i) if produced in the same period would more then likely 9 outta 10 times pick the BMW. More power, more torque, RWD, much better handling. Barely handle better? Your using your stock CL as a measuring stick? Get outta here kid.
Your fanaticism is ridiculous but then again you're a proven idiot. You rag on a car you don't have and with those pep boy racer wheels, can't obviously afford.
The only thing that Hondas have is reliability over the BMW, but thats the price you pay to play. And if you want to level the playing fields, look how many people on these boards have blown their motors by upping the ante. And standard boltons are not considered adding considerable power as to produce similar numbers you need to stroke or boost the motor.
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12-25-2010, 03:31 PM
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So the Nordschleife should be omitted because it has a 1.3 mile UP HILL straight out of 12.9 miles of track that just so happens to have 154 other turns? Damn.
Have you looked into the NSX at all? Are you aware of the problems the front end exhibits when under hard braking? The toe and caster changes causing the car to become unstable when entering a turn after hard braking.
If this were 1991, I wouldnt be saying this about the NSX. But its 2010. The NSX was designed in the 80s. It was an amazing car, but there were plenty of amazing cars after it.
Have you looked into the NSX at all? Are you aware of the problems the front end exhibits when under hard braking? The toe and caster changes causing the car to become unstable when entering a turn after hard braking.
If this were 1991, I wouldnt be saying this about the NSX. But its 2010. The NSX was designed in the 80s. It was an amazing car, but there were plenty of amazing cars after it.
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12-25-2010, 03:32 PM
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^ Not many have blown their motors at all on this site, actually quite the opposite. Almost all the engines on here have taken serious modifications in stride.
But I agree that the only thing Honda has over BMW really is reliability and cost. IMO build quality is a toss-up, I think the BMW's interiors are nicer new, but Honda/Acuras hold up nicer, at least in looks. My Accord has more rattles than you can shake a stick at, but it looks brand-new.
But I agree that the only thing Honda has over BMW really is reliability and cost. IMO build quality is a toss-up, I think the BMW's interiors are nicer new, but Honda/Acuras hold up nicer, at least in looks. My Accord has more rattles than you can shake a stick at, but it looks brand-new.
12-25-2010, 03:34 PM
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Em, not really.
12-25-2010, 03:36 PM
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^ Not many have blown their motors at all on this site, actually quite the opposite. Almost all the engines on here have taken serious modifications in stride.
But I agree that the only thing Honda has over BMW really is reliability and cost. IMO build quality is a toss-up, I think the BMW's interiors are nicer new, but Honda/Acuras hold up nicer, at least in looks. My Accord has more rattles than you can shake a stick at, but it looks brand-new.
But I agree that the only thing Honda has over BMW really is reliability and cost. IMO build quality is a toss-up, I think the BMW's interiors are nicer new, but Honda/Acuras hold up nicer, at least in looks. My Accord has more rattles than you can shake a stick at, but it looks brand-new.
12-25-2010, 03:38 PM
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Who are you owning kid? You've never even seen a pic of me and concluding I must have some blowout? While everyone saw you are some ginger haired faggot wearing his sisters jeans weighing in at 98 pounds soaking wet.
12-25-2010, 03:45 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/user/merherher#p/u/8/Wypn5nB441w
12-25-2010, 03:49 PM
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The M6 should be mince-meat for the NSX-R, no?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCrburgring_lap_times
12-25-2010, 03:52 PM
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lol just drop it guys, the kids 19. half his posts are retarded. his only real performance mods consist of an intake. an axle back will do nothing on stock piping.
give him a few years and he'll wisen up and realize his car isnt the shit.
give him a few years and he'll wisen up and realize his car isnt the shit.
12-25-2010, 03:53 PM
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Lol, I haven't weighed 135 pounds since maybe the 8th grade. And by ass you mean getting double penetrated by two men while listening to the Jonas Brothers?
Wow, Congrats on my YouTube channel. What was that supposed to accomplish?
Wow, Congrats on my YouTube channel. What was that supposed to accomplish?
12-25-2010, 04:04 PM
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Dude, again, I'm not talking about speed. I just answered one of your questions. I factored out the ring because it has a long straight away which has many factors that can cause one car or the other to win. I'm talking about a track with just turns, no straights.
Also, should I expect anything less from you after your TL vs CL "owned" comment in that other thread?
Also, should I expect anything less from you after your TL vs CL "owned" comment in that other thread?
really? Please explain what you mean by many factors a straight away has to do with one car winning over another. Besides speed in the straight what other factors are there?
Please tell me why the long straight favors the Focus and not the faster and sleeker NSX?
RIGHT HERE JACOB ANSWER THIS ONE, AND TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU ANSWER IT! Please explain your rational about the long straight at the Ring being a negative for the NSX. Which is what you claimed!
Several peaple here have shown you FACTS. And you refuse to listen, and continue to post assumptions that are wrong and unfounded.
Oh and about the CLS/TLS video. Yes I WAS WRONG! Big effing deal at least i can admit it. Besides the video was very poor quality and I MISSREAD the times. That's an honest mistake. You on the other hand just talk out your ass with out even knowing any facts. Speculation and assumptions. If it makes you feel better to keep bringing up ONE post where I made a mistake then by all means go ahead
Have you not noticed you get called out on more BS then anyone else in the second gen cl forum?
12-25-2010, 04:10 PM
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WHAT?
really? Please explain what you mean by many factors a straight away has to do with one car winning over another. Besides speed in the straight what other factors are there?
Please tell me why the long straight favors the Focus and not the faster and sleeker NSX?
RIGHT HERE JACOB ANSWER THIS ONE, AND TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU ANSWER IT! Please explain your rational about the long straight at the Ring being a negative for the NSX. Which is what you claimed!
Several peaple here have shown you FACTS. And you refuse to listen, and continue to post assumptions that are wrong and unfounded.
Oh and about the CLS/TLS video. Yes I WAS WRONG! Big effing deal at least i can admit it. Besides the video was very poor quality and I MISSREAD the times. That's an honest mistake. You on the other hand just talk out your ass with out even knowing any facts. Speculation and assumptions. If it makes you feel better to keep bringing up ONE post where I made a mistake then by all means go ahead
Have you not noticed you get called out on more BS then anyone else in the second gen cl forum?
really? Please explain what you mean by many factors a straight away has to do with one car winning over another. Besides speed in the straight what other factors are there?
Please tell me why the long straight favors the Focus and not the faster and sleeker NSX?
RIGHT HERE JACOB ANSWER THIS ONE, AND TRY TO DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU ANSWER IT! Please explain your rational about the long straight at the Ring being a negative for the NSX. Which is what you claimed!
Several peaple here have shown you FACTS. And you refuse to listen, and continue to post assumptions that are wrong and unfounded.
Oh and about the CLS/TLS video. Yes I WAS WRONG! Big effing deal at least i can admit it. Besides the video was very poor quality and I MISSREAD the times. That's an honest mistake. You on the other hand just talk out your ass with out even knowing any facts. Speculation and assumptions. If it makes you feel better to keep bringing up ONE post where I made a mistake then by all means go ahead
Have you not noticed you get called out on more BS then anyone else in the second gen cl forum?
No one here has posted facts, including myself. It's not a fact unless it's sourced.
OKAY, a few bimmers are faster than an NSX. I AM WRONG. I really am over this stupid discussion. CH46ESeaKnight=1, Jacobpockros=1.
Were all being immature as fuck, and arguing like school children. At the end of the day, no ones gains anything from a pointless arguement.