Jrezo

Pits200 almost has the same set up as Luis (SDCLS).

YOU CAN DO IT!

make sure you get vids

Sun Diego CL-S

only differences is that he's got CT sways and different springs and i have the UR crank pulley.

eidt: you're meeting with us on Friday, right Josh?

subbuzz

that's what i like to see your mods still the same as sig or did you add on?

e-town is the only track around here. i'm like 15 min away from you we gotta set something up. i'm working killer hours this week(72 in all) but next weekend i can play if you wanna go to the track or i got a couple spots we can get some good clean runs in(no traffic)...........


calling out cl platano on this one also,i got a i owe you..........:wink:

Sun Diego CL-S

subbuzz. is your TL-S A/T or a 6 speed?

subbuzz

auto,just wanted to DRIVE this thing. now i wish i was a 6-speed,but when i'm sitting in bumper to bumper tommorrow i'll change my tune..........

Sun Diego CL-S

here goes one video that we got. i'll post others soon.
SDCLS(AT w/I/H/CP) on the left vs. Jrezo(6spd e/intake) on the right. as you can see, here he got a slight jump on me and held it.



note: the camera car (3G TL w/intake) was flooring it the whole time as well.

Jrezo

Wooowee nice L.

Thats a nice vid, my stock springs are dumppy. When it hits 2nd and 3rd my back end just dumps back (right Lane).

That a good stuff, I cant wait to see Subbuz and Pits200 run



Thnx L

pits200

I actually don't know what my sig says.
Here are my mods

HR OE Springs with Tokico Illuminas
CT Headers
CT Icebox
Thermoblock Spacers
UR Pulley
CT Sways
CT Tranny Cooler
Neuspeed Tower Bar
Poly filled Mounts (Actually has helped with shifting)

I think thats it, I can't really remember what else.


As for racing, I will be in Newark for the next 2 weeks for work including the weekends starting this Sunday the 14th.

I can't take a risk racing on streets even if they are clear.

But I am all about running, just let me know whats up.

sinfulj32

yo i live on that next right in the video. hey man i think i'm about to go to the next racelegal at qualcomm. i think its on the 25th. if any other of you sd guys wanna roll

cbusAcuracls

Wow! nice race...you guys smoked the 3G TL (camera guy)
Good work guys

Sun Diego CL-S

that we did. right after this run, i lined up with the TL. let's just say it wasn't much of a race and leave it at that.

cbusAcuracls

Would it be safe to assume then that a Auto CLS with Intake be pretty equal with a Auto 3G TL?

Sun Diego CL-S

definitely. an A/T 2G CL-S should be just slightly faster if not equal to an A/T 3G TL.

scuc

Just saw this 07TL-S vs CL-S
http://www.youtube.com/v/xrXRkRs0wAY

INSPIRE 32V

iTrader: (1)

WTF!!! the 07 is not even a Type-S and the Cl has a Extra driver so... i don't know bout that race.

Jrezo

That guys on 19's and it sounds like a stock auto. I saw some other vids of this guy, and he could baraley beat a new si. I think that that was filmed in the UK, We need some vids of AZers

Jrezo

Sorry maybe not UK, but listen to the guy at the gate 1.2.3. Go??? Theres also another one where he is even with a VR6 VW and pulls slightly at the end.

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

I managed to race a 07 TL-S 6spd from a dig and up to about third gear we were even, although I was having some shifter cable problems.

No doubt the new TL-S are no slouches

cbusAcuracls

cool...I suspected it would be close but never had a chance to see. Good to know.

juruki

iTrader: (2)

So you guys think a 250 Hp CL-S will run even with a 287hp/256tq 07 TL-S?
Yeah right....

pits200

Don't be mad because a modded 6 year old auto CL-S will spank your new TL-s..


Read what everyone is saying, they are comparing a MODDED CL-S to a stock 07 TL-S. I don't think anyone is assuming otherwise.

Jrezo

.....EDIT 260 hp and your car has 286 hp Get your facts stright

"Yeah right".....


Do you know what your car runs on 1/4 mile? Your car has 286hp and it 200lbs heavier. This is a damb good run

Do you live close to San Diego? We got a stock 6 speed and a modded auto that would love to see how fast you claim to be.

pits200

Hey man, don't forget. There are new SAE standards for hp ratings and our CL's were not rated under the tighter scrutiny specs while the new TL-S was.

Therefore, our cars are actually overrated in terms of HP if you rated it against the new SAE standards while his TL-S is.

Our cars are closer to 250hp than they are to 260 hp stock.

Jrezo

My bad, forgot about that.

on me, Still a good run if you ask me. I read a post in TL-S 1/4 mile and the guys best run of the day was a 14.8 stock 07TL-s AT. No dis to the guy, track conditions, new car ect. but a great comparison of numbers, na mean

Sun Diego CL-S

i bet a stock 6spd CL-S will make it close or just beat a stock A/T TL-S. have you seen or done otherwise, juruki?

INSPIRE 32V

iTrader: (1)

driving a cl-6 with CT Headers, no resonater, HKS draggers and Injen CAI feels soooo much faster than my 06 6 speed. CLS-6 FTMFW!

cbusAcuracls

Yes there are new SAE standards and the new TL is 258 and the TL-S is 286 but the dyno numbers don't lie. I've seen a bone stock 3G TL have 212 whp (258 hp - 46 = 212 whp) and a stock 6 speed 2G CL-S have 214 whp (260 - 46 = 214 whp) . Yea the conditions might have been slightly different and not all dyno places are the same but thats pretty close. Now add headers ~+20-30 hp and intake +5 and -200 lbs lighter you should be just as fast as 3G TL-S.

I think my Headers and Intake numbers are safe. I've seen 30 hp just from headers:
260 + 20 +5 = 285 hp.... I'll even give you benifit of the doubt on your 250hp CL-S
250 +20 +5 = 275 hp now remember CL-S is 200 lbs lighter... then its all a drivers race.

I know I'm playing the number game but from the data I've seen a modded 6 speed CL-S with a good driver vs stock 3G TL-S is pretty damn equal.

Only one way to prove me wrong we gotta see this in real life conditions or it will never be anything more than a myth.

Who's in?

juruki

iTrader: (2)

It was pretty clear that he was running on 19's. You forgot to mention that. Also it was his first time at the track with a high hp FWD.
Im not bashing on the CL-S, i used to have one with Intake/headers/exhaust and the car was fast. I now drive a 07 TL-S and i can feel big difference in performance, specially from a dig in 1st and 2nd gear.

juruki

iTrader: (2)

Have you ever seen a CL-S with intake and pullies dyno anywhere close to 261 wheel hp and 241 torque?

juruki

iTrader: (2)

261hp/241tq is close to the power a Supercharged CL-S puts to the ground.
Im not comparing specs from magazines, just dyno numbers. If we were to compare HP in your supposedly 260hp then the TL-s would have 300 hp.

Jrezo

Anyway I did post a disclaimer about the race so don’t shat your pants. I did miss quote one thing so I apologize; it was a 6 speed not an auto.

14.8 .19s or not those are numbers like a stock CL-S AT, which is my point, these are great numbers just for comparison.

Who will win in a ¼ mile run? We can talk all day about new hp standards, weight difference, wheels, but what it comes down to is what car will have win on a ¼ mile.

All were saying is it’s a damb good race.

07TL-S VS. 03CL-S6 Stock or CL-S AT


So you never answered do you live near San Diego?

cbusAcuracls

Have you ever seen a AT 3G TL-S weight 3446 lbs? No!
2G CLS 6sp (3446lbs)
3G TLS AT (3680lbs)

cbusAcuracls

Are you saying the TL-S dyno's at 261hp/241tq stock?
More like 241hp/221tq.
If I'm wrong please let me know cause thats only a 25hp loss to the ground.

F23A4

I may join you guys, provided you head to Etown.

Pseudomaniac

iTrader: (1)

I've had no trouble pulling a stock 3g TL in my 03 Cl-S Mani from 40-80 - convincingly.

cbusAcuracls

you got pics of your s2k? I'm looking at getting one.

Pseudomaniac

iTrader: (1)

Don't buy one if you're looking for a drag car - but it's probably the most fun thing I've ever driven on a regular basis.

















http://gcce.net/media/13second2.mpg (pre nitrous)

cbusAcuracls

OMG....I think I just crapped my pants.

That is hot man.
Nah I'm not looking for a drag car just a fun car for the weekend.
My buddy just picked up a audi tt 225 and I was looking at an s2k.
thanks man... I think you just sold me on the s2k.

Pseudomaniac

iTrader: (1)

I prefer the AP1 over the AP2 (2003 was the last AP1)
Higher redline, lighter weight.

Hard to get any more ponies out of them - and parts are expensive.
Clutch is a must. - Motor must be dropped to change it though.

I'm 6'2''/250. It's snug. If you're taller than that - go sit in one first.

Great cars - and won't kill the bank. I bought mine used in 05 for $17 - think I owe like 8 on it now or something - with only 52k on the clock...

Sun Diego CL-S

again. i bet a stock 6spd CL-S will make it close or just beat a stock A/T TL-S. have you seen or done otherwise, juruki? i know the numbers on and off of the dyno show one thing but, i'd have to see it to believe that the 6-spd CL-S would be owned by all 3G TL-S'.