ceramic pads no good?
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ceramic pads no good?
Why don't you recommend Ceramic Brake Pads?
Let's start by saying that ceramic brake pads have a place in the automotive industry. They were designed to be a low-dust, noise-free brake pad. They came into popularity after the discontinued use of asbestos-based brake pads. At that time, semi-metallic pads exhibited problems with higher noise and dust levels.
Ceramic Brake Pads were NEVER designed to be a performance brake pad! Some companies have done a terrific job marketing their higher-priced, ceramic pads to the consumer as a performance pad. Ceramic brake pads typically have lower friction coefficients, and act as an insulator - raising rotor temperatures in cast-iron disc systems. When you have a vehicle that has persistent braking problems- the last thing you want to do is install components that have a LOWER friction coefficient and that RAISE effective operating temperatures! See our section on how this can cause ' Warped Rotors "
Premium-grade semi-metallic or hybrid pads are more effective for handling elevated temperatures and dissipating heat away from rotors. Most, if not all, semi-metallic pads have a degree of ceramic content ALREADY IN the brake pad.
Premium-grade, semi-metallic pads can offer LOW-DUST, NOISE-FREE Performance without sacrificing stopping power and increasing rotor temperatures!
Most organizations with fleet vehicles and other extreme-service applications already know what we're telling you: High-quality semi-metallic pads offer the best combination of stopping-power and extended-wear of any brake pad type on the marketplace today!
Read this on some brake website. Any truth to this? Sounds like it makes sense, but then again, there's ceramic rotors. I also know a bunch of people on the forum love their ceramic pads, so prove me wrong before I decide to buy my own.
Let's start by saying that ceramic brake pads have a place in the automotive industry. They were designed to be a low-dust, noise-free brake pad. They came into popularity after the discontinued use of asbestos-based brake pads. At that time, semi-metallic pads exhibited problems with higher noise and dust levels.
Ceramic Brake Pads were NEVER designed to be a performance brake pad! Some companies have done a terrific job marketing their higher-priced, ceramic pads to the consumer as a performance pad. Ceramic brake pads typically have lower friction coefficients, and act as an insulator - raising rotor temperatures in cast-iron disc systems. When you have a vehicle that has persistent braking problems- the last thing you want to do is install components that have a LOWER friction coefficient and that RAISE effective operating temperatures! See our section on how this can cause ' Warped Rotors "
Premium-grade semi-metallic or hybrid pads are more effective for handling elevated temperatures and dissipating heat away from rotors. Most, if not all, semi-metallic pads have a degree of ceramic content ALREADY IN the brake pad.
Premium-grade, semi-metallic pads can offer LOW-DUST, NOISE-FREE Performance without sacrificing stopping power and increasing rotor temperatures!
Most organizations with fleet vehicles and other extreme-service applications already know what we're telling you: High-quality semi-metallic pads offer the best combination of stopping-power and extended-wear of any brake pad type on the marketplace today!
Read this on some brake website. Any truth to this? Sounds like it makes sense, but then again, there's ceramic rotors. I also know a bunch of people on the forum love their ceramic pads, so prove me wrong before I decide to buy my own.
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It would be nice if when Honda/Acura issue a TSB about brake issues and specify a change in pad material they provide more input as to why the change helps address the issue.
Are they switching from one type of compound to another? Likely...just what is it?
Are they switching from one type of compound to another? Likely...just what is it?
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I have Axxis ULT ceramic pads and they stop a lot better than stock pads, but then again they squeal and have massive amounts of dust.
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Good Stuff.. My front rotors are slightly warped and I've been thinking about what pads rotors to get...
Brembo or Rotora rotors and Satified Pro or Akebono pads... I'm cheap, so the Brembo and Satified Pro sound interesting...
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...3&autoModClar=
Brembo or Rotora rotors and Satified Pro or Akebono pads... I'm cheap, so the Brembo and Satified Pro sound interesting...
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...3&autoModClar=
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Brembo or Rotora rotors and Satified Pro or Akebono pads... I'm cheap, so the Brembo and Satified Pro sound interesting...
my setup is brembo blanks & akebono, it has worked great for over 2 years.
the rotors are starting to warp just like OEM, but its not that bad. So overall I think you get better value for less money. Brembo blanks will fit perfectly, its an exact OEM replacement, same is true for Akebono.
the only thing with akebono, they give you a bit soft pedal feel, but I like it. they stop the same or better than stock.
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Originally Posted by krisdlm
I need to get new rotors + brakes soon too and I was thinking about going w/ Rotora.
Any difference btw. Rotora/Akebono/Brembo?
Any difference btw. Rotora/Akebono/Brembo?
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Just to chime in....I got PFC (performance friction) pads all around. And they're fanatastic! Unbelievable stopping power and no noise at all. But the sucky part is that theres more dust - even more than OE. I wash the damn car every 2-3 days anyways so I don't mind.
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BTW I completely forgot, they're actually PFC Carbon Metallic brake pads.
here's the site: http://performancefriction.com/
here's the site: http://performancefriction.com/
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Originally Posted by krisdlm
I need to get new rotors + brakes soon too and I was thinking about going w/ Rotora.
Any difference btw. Rotora/Akebono/Brembo?
Any difference btw. Rotora/Akebono/Brembo?
It's worked well since I got them. No complaints. Got them from Tire Rack.
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I have R1 Concepts slotted/drilled rotors and I couldn't be happier. They're cheap and work great. Just gotta get used to the locus-like sound that they make.
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Originally Posted by mpg2034
BTW I completely forgot, they're actually PFC Carbon Metallic brake pads.
here's the site: http://performancefriction.com/
here's the site: http://performancefriction.com/
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Originally Posted by krisdlm
would these be compatible w/ rotora slotted?
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Oh and forgot to mention - they come with a lifetime warranty. (bought from autozone) So anytime that they do make a squeel or anything at all, they said I can swap them for new ones - no questions.
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