Just wondering. I see a few around here and they always look like they are ready to run w/someone.

 

NO!


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01 white/ebony CL-S
Pewter Xephyr CAI
PIAA's 19224

 

5spd - no way, probably not even with intake/headers/exhaust/pulleys

Auto - not stock, but with intake/headers I'd bet it would be pretty damn close

 

If you're stock you can probably hang w/an auto. Better get the headers and a cai if you want to race the manual tranny version.

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Got some stuff
14.302 @98.69 Carlsbad Raceway 4/29/01
My Car

CLpower has a 1st Gen 3.0 CL

 

Scott beats the 5 speeds and I can beat Scott most of the time.



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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Got some stuff
14.302 @98.69 Carlsbad Raceway 4/29/01
My Car

CLpower has a 1st Gen 3.0 CL

 

I don't even think we can hang with an auto if we're stock. With headers/CAI/other stuff, then we can probably hang.

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01 white/ebony CL-S
Pewter Xephyr CAI
PIAA's 19224

 

FYI: According to the mags, the 2001 GT Conv. runs 0-60 in 6sec. and 1/4 mile in 14.7. I'm assuming the coupe will have faster times...oh yeah this is an automatic!

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01 white/ebony CL-S
Pewter Xephyr CAI
PIAA's 19224

 

I dont think we have a chance, unless we have headers, and CAI. And we still might lose.

Spiro

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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

I want video!!!!!

 

Ways we (CL-S) can top a 'Stang:

1: The driver is asleep behind the wheel
2: Grandma is driving
3: Stang is in reverse
4: Stang has Firestones
5: Stang is out of gas
6: Stang is wrapped around a telephone pole
7: Stang is in the shop
8: All of the above
9: None of the above
10: Who gives a shit anyway.

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Silver CL-S

 

i beat an auto stang 2x's by about half a car- a car. I can stick by the side of the manual ones

 

if that's the case then i can hang and probably beat some manny stangs w/a an average driver



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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Got some stuff
14.302 @98.69 Carlsbad Raceway 4/29/01
My Car

CLpower has a 1st Gen 3.0 CL

 

14.3 is a very respectable time. You shoudl be bale to beat a lot of those stock stangs.

Spiro



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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

probally. But i only raced the auto up to about 80 and the manual a little under 90. So ya, it should be pretty close for ya

 

I can beat a stock GT with my stock M3, whether the GT be manual or auto, it'll still get a good glance at my rear 'M3' badge.

So given that, and also given that *some* (I didn't say 'all') CLS'rs believe that they can take out a stock M3 w/ headers or whatever else, they should be able to beat the new GT with that reasoning in mind.

Just my 2 cents...

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'98 Dakar Yellow ///M3
Surprise @ Forums atwww.BMWExperience.com
0-60 5.53 sec G-Tech
Picture here

 

Assuming that all variables are constant (including driver) except for the Comptech headers and AEM CAI on the Acura CL type S, the Mustang would be much quicker. Torque my friends is what propels these cars. Think about it... the Mustang and CLS weight about the same in fact I think the Acura CLS weights more. They are both automatic, but one engine is a V8 and the other is a V6. They may have around the same horsepower, but the V8 has more torque compared to the CLS! When it comes to the stick Mustang, it depends on the driver. If he knows how to race it you will lose badly. Simple as that!

Recently, I tested a clients automatic 2001 Mustang GT at Pomona Raceway and clocked high 13 seconds with just tire pressure adjustments and a shift kit. Nothing else was touched. It only cost him $145.00 for the kit and installation.

BLOWN 331

[This message has been edited by BLOWN 331 (edited 06-08-2001).]

 

I've been trying to explain that to these people for a long time. Certain memebers of this forum (I won't mention any names) still refuse to believe that torque is what wins drag races.

Finally there's someone here that agrees with me!



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99 M3
dead CL-S

Tom2: The Voice Of Reason and Captain of the Bullshit Police.

 

hey, i always agreed with you

 

I think lots of people on here realize that. I'd go so far as to say that most do. But would it also be fair to say that torque is what causes traction problems?? You can have all the torque in the world, but if you can't properly put it down on the pavement, you'll lose!!

 

My point exactly which is why I said w/an average driver.

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Got some stuff
14.302 @98.69 Carlsbad Raceway 4/29/01
My Car

CLpower has a 1st Gen 3.0 CL

 

If a mustang doesn't get a decent launch..a CL-S with mods will take it. And remember this...GTs with sticks...how many people are gonna be able to run 14.3s with them??? It comes down to the driver...less so in our cars...because they're pretty dunce-proof. Just my .02

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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!)
14.698 @95.977mph....Sears Point Raceway.I think I need a Level 10 Torque Converter!!
Yes, I know I'm going to hell for wasting gas on Civics....
My Peoples

 

I raced a 4.6L convertible 5spd last weekend and lost by about a car and a bumper. I think it had a couple bolt-ons though.

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CoMpTeCh HeAdErS
eIbAcH sPrInGs
AeM cAi

 

YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!

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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!)
14.698 @95.977mph....Sears Point Raceway.I think I need a Level 10 Torque Converter!!
Yes, I know I'm going to hell for wasting gas on Civics....
My Peoples

 

Gold Type S,

You are correct in your torque statement about traction. I've had considerable experience (12+ years) in drag racing many cars and traction is the most important next to reaction time. That's why I'll always reply to these type of post that it's the driver that gets the most out of the car. To note: We played around with different tire pressures in the stock tires so they would hook a little better.

BLOWN 331

 

With our bolt-ons, we can probably hang with a stock '01 GT manual.

I lost to a modded '96 GT by 4-5 car lengths. It sounded just plain MEAN. I had one passenger in the car, stock, and I kept up with him until he hit third gear (I think the only reason why I kept up with him to begin with is because he missed a shift).

I've raced and won against numerous mildly modded 5.0's and 4.6's.

Recently, I've raced a '00 GT manual with Flowmasters (with my bolt-ons) and I won. But, he was also dropped 2 inches rolling on 20" chrome wheels. Without the wheels, my friend drove his car and beat me by a car length.

Sooo...it all depends on the driver. I've even kept up with a 5.0 in my Integra up until third gear, because his drove like sh*t. We should be able to toast stock automatic GT's, hang with them stock vs. stock.

Patrick

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'01 Black/Tan CL-S w/ Navi & spoiler
AEM CAI
Comptech headers, springs & sway bars
Toyo Proxes T1-S 235/45ZR17 tires
15% tint, Infinity Perfect sub/PPI amp

'97 Acura Integra LS

"You don't need a shopping cart wing to go fast..."

[This message has been edited by SpeedyRonin (edited 06-08-2001).]

 

stangs can suck it

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, Springs, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

 

I'm sorry i just stopped laughing at the topic. a 5 speed GT would smoke a CL-S if he can drive. but if the schmuck misses second then you got him. Don't even THINK of touching a Saleen S-281 or S-351 or Rouche Stage 2

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97 Black on Black 2.2CL
limo tint all around
1 alpine 12 in the trunk powered by an mtx amp

pics soon to come.

 

HA HA. You make me laugh Nick or should I say, Alias "Type S Smoke Weed!!!"

 

100% Stock 99+ GTs can run as quick as 13.6 @ 100-101. But as has been pointed out, a novice driver could be unable to get better than low 14s (poor launch, missed shift, improper shift points, etc., etc.).

So for the guys that have modded their CL's to mid-high 13s, then sure, you could beat one. If not, you need a holeshot or some driver error to win...



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98 Ford SVT Cobra - Black/Tan
#3035 of 5174
13.759 @ 102.41 - 2.015 60' on stock BFGs
K&N(removed silencer)
Gutted MAF
Foglight rewire
Steeda Tri-Ax (Low Setting)
Steeda u/d Pulleys
Steeda T/A (Set @ 14*)
BBK o/r H-pipe with MIL simulators
Kuhmo ECSTA 712s

 

What kind of 60ft do new mustangs run?


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Black/Black 2001 CL-S
Random Technology Cat
RED AEM CAI
APEXi V-AFC
Polarg M6 Roadlamps

 

Oreo,

Saleen also has supercharged versions of the S-281 and S-351. Roush Performance not Rouche also has a stage three version. It only has 360 HP at 5250 RPM's and 375 lbs. of torque at 3000 RPM's. 0 - 60 in 4.3 seconds and the quarter mile in a slow 12.9 at 111 miles an hour. The Saleen SSR-351 is much faster than the Roush.

Reading these types of posts humor me too.

BLOWN 331

 

Pull_T,

Get ready...this group doesn't like Stangs and bags on Ford cars!

For the record, I have both a 90 Mustang that does high tens in the quarter and a Acura CLS that probably does low 15's. I'm just preparing you that you will hear some outrageous stuff hear about CLS vs. Stangs.

BLOWN 331

 

I dont think it's neccessary true. Personally, I dont think my car is the fastest car, so I do pay respect to faster cars and I know most of us would too. Accepting the facts is not a shameful thing to do. so hell yeah, a manual Stang GT will beat most of us except for those heavily equipted. Just my opinion.



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'01 Silver CL-S
Painted Mud Guard
Silver Aluminum Pedals
Customed self-installed sound system with 5-channel Kenwood Amp and 10in. Pioneer sub. in Customized box.
(modified) CAI.
Meshed grill.
My Pride

 

what are you talking about? you're giving me specs on a Roush? big friggin deal. it will still smoke a CL-S. the S-281 NON-SUPERCHARGED model could take a CL-S. the only mustang a cl could beat is a 3.8L 6 banger and thats hardly a kill to brag about. i can keep up with v6 mustangs in my 2.2.

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97 Black on Black 2.2CL
limo tint all around
1 alpine 12 in the trunk powered by an mtx amp

pics soon to come.

 

[This message has been edited by BLOWN 331 (edited 06-08-2001).]

 

 

If you say your stock CL-S beat a stock Mustang GT... I'll say I was in a porno with Jenteal...
Even with a CAI, the GT is just too fast. RWD vs. FWD. V8 vs. V6. Build qualirt notwithstanding, there isn't much you can do to beat one of those.

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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
Proud member of "I didn't hit the curb like a dope and scratch my rims" club.

 

true experiences....I've raced a 01' mustang GT auto twice and beat him both times up to 80 mph...even raced a stick 3x and that one was closer...off the line he jumped but on my 2nd gear his car ran out of breath first and he had to shift...raced the manual up to 90 and I was ahead slightly (not by much, cant really say by much....busy looking straight)..Must say that if we would have kept on going the manual would have went by cause I felt my car slowing down...Webtoker has also raced a 01' mustang GT and beat it a couple of times...take in mind both were stock GTs...so, its not impossible but dont get big-headed at the same time dont shy away from racing one

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Silver 01' Type-S w/all the trimmins
Acura loyalty
retired a 2000 TL and a 94' Acura Legend Coupe
Comptech Springs, axle-back exhaust,headers
AEM CAI
yellow bumper (fog lights) bulbs
Clear Headlights

 

Well if my CL-S can't take it, my Z28 can.

Besides, who would want to race modern muscle cars in their luxury sports sedan? Bah. I'd rather work on beating more expensive competition like BMWs or Lexuses (although the latter would require Comptech to get their ass in gear with that SC).

-J

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2001 CL-S Aegean Blue/black interior spoiler, wheel locks, no-navi
Stock for now.
50% tint sides, 35% back.

 

No fu$king way. Even if your cl-s has i/h/e, you still won't beat a stock 5spd stang.

last weekend at the milpitas races, my buddy (2000 GT Conv. 5spd) took off on a cl-s (with headers and an intake) by a good amount. The CL-S didn't let him get too far ahead, but there was at least a car between them (on both races)

We really need to stop comparing them. A mustang is a muscle car, while the CL-S is a luxury coupe. If i wanted a muscle car, I would have bought a cobra or a Z28. But since i wanted to be able to relax while driving, i chose the CL-S. But we come close to keeping up.....and we are 2cyclinders short.


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01' CL Type-S, Silver, Navigation, Spoiler
4% tint on the backs and 34% on the fronts
Eibach Pro-Kit Springs (2" Drop)
AEM Cold Air Intake
2 JL-Audio 10"xW3 and a MTX 6500D Monoblock Amp.