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california people!
just passing on info
Okay California folks. Its time to be a good citizen and let your political voice be heard. SEMA has given you a platform with which to voice your opinion. We will only get one shot at this, so listen up! SEMA has managed to get a bill started to provide for definitive testing for exhausts on cars, with actual equipment. No more will you be subjected to the discretion of the arresting officer. Their will be actual testing done that will remove any preconceived notions of the officer writing the ticket. The way things are now in California is if you get a ticket for a loud exhaust, you are guilty, with no way to prove your innocence. The state allows for 95 dB at a certain distance called out in CHP Bulletin 98-100. However they have no means to measure that sound level. They have no dB meters, and have no plans to buy any. You cannot bring one yourself, because its not a CHP dB meter and is therefore not valid. This leaves you to either to pay the fine, or go try to plea your case in front of a judge.
This is a total breakdown of the legal system as we know it. Guilty - with no way to prove your innocence. But now we have a choice in the form of S.B. 1081 started by SEMA and will be proposed by a car-friendly Sen. Maurice Johannessen on May 1. I asked Brian Caudill what we could do as car enthusiasts to help.. this was his reply.
I cannot stress this enough.... If your club has 1000 members get as many of
them to write, email, fax and attend the hearing as possible. The fact of
the matter is that 6-10 letters to an individual legislator can change a
vote, yet most folks think that their voice will never be heard.
Without support, this bill, like any other bill, will be scrapped. We need
to flood the legislature with a deluge of communication in favor of this
bill. Feel free to resend our alert to as many people as possible to get
this accomplished.
If you need anything else from SEMA, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Brian Caudill
SEMA Action Network
This is for real folks, it's our chance to help end the injustice. Forgive me for being dramatic here, but its rare that we, as car enthusiasts, have a voice in politics. We WILL NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE. If you ever plan on running an aftermarket exhaust, this law will protect your rights as a citizen and prevent the CHP from giving tickets that do nothing but line their pockets in a manner that leaves you with no recourse for action. If you have not been ticketed yet, you will. Help me in writing all these congressman. I have written every congressman and woman listed. Like Mr. Caudill mentioned, a few letters will help!
Its our American right to have a voice in politics. Its our duty as Americans to speak out at injustice. Please take 20 minutes to read this letter, and let your voice be heard by all of these representatives and senators.
Here is the letter from Brian I got this morning, Please take the time read it…thanks for your time and support.
A few weeks back, the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA)
contacted CA enthusiasts to see if anyone who had received a modified
exhaust ticket wanted to participate in a test to see if their exhaust was
actually technically legal according to CA law.
Well, we did the test and it was extremely successful. Of all the cars
tested, only one(!) failed to come in under the legal limit of 95 decibels -
and this car only failed by .5 decibels!
Armed with this knowledge and the facts on our side, SEMA approached a
vehicle-friendly California Senator, K. Maurice Johannessen, and got
legislation introduced to try and solve this problem once and for all.
Please read the legislative alert below and get involved on behalf of
yourself, your clubs and teams and the import-performance scene in
California.
Brian Caudill
SEMA Action Network
__________________________________________________ _________
URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT
Legislation to Protect Hobbyists From Unfair Exhaust Noise Citations To be
Heard in California Senate
SEMA-sponsored legislation to require law enforcement authorities to
"objectively demonstrate" that a modified exhaust system does not comply
with California's noise level test standard before issuing a citation will
be considered in the California Senate Transportation Committee on May 1,
2001 at 1:30 pm in Room 3191 of the State Capitol. This information can be
confirmed by calling the Committee at (916) 445-3182 or by visiting the
Senate Daily File at http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/schedules/files.htp
SEMA urges concerned CA hobbyists to attend the hearing on S.B. 1081. In
addition, we encourage you to contact members of the Senate Transportation
Committee (list attached), as well as your own CA state senators to express
your support for S.B. 1081.
· S.B. 1081 would remove conflicting provisions in the law and regulations
and force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the
standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels in a
fair and predictable test.
· S.B. 1081 would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police
officers who are charged with enforcing the law.
· S.B. 1081 would protect motorists who drive vehicles legally equipped
with modified exhaust systems from being erroneously cited for exceeding
noise limits. Overwhelming evidence shows that many of these citations are
being written in absence of any violation of the code.
· S.B. 1081 would remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police
officers in which nearly all exhaust system modifications are considered
illegal, even where noise levels are not excessive or unusual. This policy
leaves enthusiasts, exhaust system manufacturers and dealers without
recourse, despite having the law on their side.
Contact the Senate Transportation Committee and your own state
legislators
immediately to support S.B. 1081. Better still, plan on attending the
hearing. To find out who your state legislators are, contact the California
Senate general information line at 916/445-4311. This information can also
be accessed via the Internet at www.leginfo.ca.gov/yourleg.html or by
calling the SEMA Washington, DC office at 202-783-6007.
Please email, fax (202-783-6024) or mail a copy of your letters to us in
SEMA's Government Affairs Office.
SEMA Washington Office
1317 F St., NW, Ste. 500
Washington, D.C. 20004
Attn: Steve McDonald/Brian Caudill
CA Senate Bill 1081 Contact Information -
Bill Sponsor:
Sen. Maurice Johannessen (R-4)
State Capitol, Room 5061
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-3353
Fax: 916/445-7750 http://republican.sen.ca.gov/web/4/feed.asp
Senate Transportation Committee Members:
Sen. Kevin Murray (D-26)
Chair, Transportation Committee
State Capitol, Room 4082
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-8800
Fax: 916/445-8899
Senator.Murray@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Tom McClintock (R-19)
Vice-Chair, Transportation Committee
State Capitol, Room 3070
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-8873
Fax: 916/324-7544
senator.mcclintock@sen.ca.gov
Sen. James Brulte (R-31)
State Capitol, Room 305
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-3688
senator.brulte@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Jim Costa (D-16)
State Capitol, Room 5100
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-4641
Fax: 916/327-5989
Senator.Costa@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Joseph Dunn (D-34)
State Capitol, Room 2080
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-5831
Fax: 916/323-2323
Senator.Dunn@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Liz Figueroa (D-10)
State Capitol, Room 2057
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6671
Fax: 916/327-2433
Senator.Figueroa@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Betty Karnette (D-27)
State Capitol, Room 5066
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6447
Fax: 916/327-9113
Senator.Karnette@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Dick Monteith (R-12)
State Capitol, Room 4090
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 915/445-1392
senator.monteith@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Bill Morrow (R-38)
State Capitol, Room 4048
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-3731
Fax: 916/446-7382
Senator.Morrow@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Don Perata (D-9)
State Capitol, Room 4061
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6577
Fax: 916/327-1997
Senator.Perata@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Gloria Romero (D-24)
State Capitol, Room 4062
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-1418
Fax: 916/445-0485 http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/senator/romero/
Sen. Jack Scott (D-21)
State Capitol, Room 5064
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-5976
Fax: 916/324-7543 http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/senator/scott/
Sen. Nell Soto (D-32)
State Capitol, Room 4074
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6868
Senator.Soto@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Jackie Speier (D-8)
State Capitol, Room 2032
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-0503
Fax: 916/327-2186
Senator.Speier@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Tom Torlakson (D-7)
State Capitol, Room 2068
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6083
Fax: 916/445-2527 http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/senator/torlakson/
PLEASE do your part and DO NOT let SEMA's efforts go to waste!!!
------------------
"the needle got buried at 140.....1,500 RPM later...the tach got buried"
Okay California folks. Its time to be a good citizen and let your political voice be heard. SEMA has given you a platform with which to voice your opinion. We will only get one shot at this, so listen up! SEMA has managed to get a bill started to provide for definitive testing for exhausts on cars, with actual equipment. No more will you be subjected to the discretion of the arresting officer. Their will be actual testing done that will remove any preconceived notions of the officer writing the ticket. The way things are now in California is if you get a ticket for a loud exhaust, you are guilty, with no way to prove your innocence. The state allows for 95 dB at a certain distance called out in CHP Bulletin 98-100. However they have no means to measure that sound level. They have no dB meters, and have no plans to buy any. You cannot bring one yourself, because its not a CHP dB meter and is therefore not valid. This leaves you to either to pay the fine, or go try to plea your case in front of a judge.
This is a total breakdown of the legal system as we know it. Guilty - with no way to prove your innocence. But now we have a choice in the form of S.B. 1081 started by SEMA and will be proposed by a car-friendly Sen. Maurice Johannessen on May 1. I asked Brian Caudill what we could do as car enthusiasts to help.. this was his reply.
I cannot stress this enough.... If your club has 1000 members get as many of
them to write, email, fax and attend the hearing as possible. The fact of
the matter is that 6-10 letters to an individual legislator can change a
vote, yet most folks think that their voice will never be heard.
Without support, this bill, like any other bill, will be scrapped. We need
to flood the legislature with a deluge of communication in favor of this
bill. Feel free to resend our alert to as many people as possible to get
this accomplished.
If you need anything else from SEMA, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Brian Caudill
SEMA Action Network
This is for real folks, it's our chance to help end the injustice. Forgive me for being dramatic here, but its rare that we, as car enthusiasts, have a voice in politics. We WILL NOT GET A SECOND CHANCE. If you ever plan on running an aftermarket exhaust, this law will protect your rights as a citizen and prevent the CHP from giving tickets that do nothing but line their pockets in a manner that leaves you with no recourse for action. If you have not been ticketed yet, you will. Help me in writing all these congressman. I have written every congressman and woman listed. Like Mr. Caudill mentioned, a few letters will help!
Its our American right to have a voice in politics. Its our duty as Americans to speak out at injustice. Please take 20 minutes to read this letter, and let your voice be heard by all of these representatives and senators.
Here is the letter from Brian I got this morning, Please take the time read it…thanks for your time and support.
A few weeks back, the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA)
contacted CA enthusiasts to see if anyone who had received a modified
exhaust ticket wanted to participate in a test to see if their exhaust was
actually technically legal according to CA law.
Well, we did the test and it was extremely successful. Of all the cars
tested, only one(!) failed to come in under the legal limit of 95 decibels -
and this car only failed by .5 decibels!
Armed with this knowledge and the facts on our side, SEMA approached a
vehicle-friendly California Senator, K. Maurice Johannessen, and got
legislation introduced to try and solve this problem once and for all.
Please read the legislative alert below and get involved on behalf of
yourself, your clubs and teams and the import-performance scene in
California.
Brian Caudill
SEMA Action Network
__________________________________________________ _________
URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT
Legislation to Protect Hobbyists From Unfair Exhaust Noise Citations To be
Heard in California Senate
SEMA-sponsored legislation to require law enforcement authorities to
"objectively demonstrate" that a modified exhaust system does not comply
with California's noise level test standard before issuing a citation will
be considered in the California Senate Transportation Committee on May 1,
2001 at 1:30 pm in Room 3191 of the State Capitol. This information can be
confirmed by calling the Committee at (916) 445-3182 or by visiting the
Senate Daily File at http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/schedules/files.htp
SEMA urges concerned CA hobbyists to attend the hearing on S.B. 1081. In
addition, we encourage you to contact members of the Senate Transportation
Committee (list attached), as well as your own CA state senators to express
your support for S.B. 1081.
· S.B. 1081 would remove conflicting provisions in the law and regulations
and force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the
standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels in a
fair and predictable test.
· S.B. 1081 would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police
officers who are charged with enforcing the law.
· S.B. 1081 would protect motorists who drive vehicles legally equipped
with modified exhaust systems from being erroneously cited for exceeding
noise limits. Overwhelming evidence shows that many of these citations are
being written in absence of any violation of the code.
· S.B. 1081 would remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police
officers in which nearly all exhaust system modifications are considered
illegal, even where noise levels are not excessive or unusual. This policy
leaves enthusiasts, exhaust system manufacturers and dealers without
recourse, despite having the law on their side.
Contact the Senate Transportation Committee and your own state
legislators
immediately to support S.B. 1081. Better still, plan on attending the
hearing. To find out who your state legislators are, contact the California
Senate general information line at 916/445-4311. This information can also
be accessed via the Internet at www.leginfo.ca.gov/yourleg.html or by
calling the SEMA Washington, DC office at 202-783-6007.
Please email, fax (202-783-6024) or mail a copy of your letters to us in
SEMA's Government Affairs Office.
SEMA Washington Office
1317 F St., NW, Ste. 500
Washington, D.C. 20004
Attn: Steve McDonald/Brian Caudill
CA Senate Bill 1081 Contact Information -
Bill Sponsor:
Sen. Maurice Johannessen (R-4)
State Capitol, Room 5061
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-3353
Fax: 916/445-7750 http://republican.sen.ca.gov/web/4/feed.asp
Senate Transportation Committee Members:
Sen. Kevin Murray (D-26)
Chair, Transportation Committee
State Capitol, Room 4082
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-8800
Fax: 916/445-8899
Senator.Murray@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Tom McClintock (R-19)
Vice-Chair, Transportation Committee
State Capitol, Room 3070
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-8873
Fax: 916/324-7544
senator.mcclintock@sen.ca.gov
Sen. James Brulte (R-31)
State Capitol, Room 305
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-3688
senator.brulte@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Jim Costa (D-16)
State Capitol, Room 5100
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-4641
Fax: 916/327-5989
Senator.Costa@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Joseph Dunn (D-34)
State Capitol, Room 2080
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-5831
Fax: 916/323-2323
Senator.Dunn@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Liz Figueroa (D-10)
State Capitol, Room 2057
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6671
Fax: 916/327-2433
Senator.Figueroa@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Betty Karnette (D-27)
State Capitol, Room 5066
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6447
Fax: 916/327-9113
Senator.Karnette@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Dick Monteith (R-12)
State Capitol, Room 4090
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 915/445-1392
senator.monteith@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Bill Morrow (R-38)
State Capitol, Room 4048
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-3731
Fax: 916/446-7382
Senator.Morrow@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Don Perata (D-9)
State Capitol, Room 4061
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6577
Fax: 916/327-1997
Senator.Perata@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Gloria Romero (D-24)
State Capitol, Room 4062
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-1418
Fax: 916/445-0485 http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/senator/romero/
Sen. Jack Scott (D-21)
State Capitol, Room 5064
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-5976
Fax: 916/324-7543 http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/senator/scott/
Sen. Nell Soto (D-32)
State Capitol, Room 4074
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6868
Senator.Soto@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Jackie Speier (D-8)
State Capitol, Room 2032
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-0503
Fax: 916/327-2186
Senator.Speier@sen.ca.gov
Sen. Tom Torlakson (D-7)
State Capitol, Room 2068
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916/445-6083
Fax: 916/445-2527 http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/senator/torlakson/
PLEASE do your part and DO NOT let SEMA's efforts go to waste!!!
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04-23-2001, 03:14 AM
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i aint in california, but even if i was there is no fuggin way that i am gonna read all that stuff!
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04-23-2001, 03:20 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by deadlyCL-S:
i aint in california, but even if i was there is no fuggin way that i am gonna read all that stuff!
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i aint in california, but even if i was there is no fuggin way that i am gonna read all that stuff!
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2001 cls: silver/black;spoiler;mud guards
future mods : headers;intake;exhaust;springs
04-23-2001, 03:22 AM
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ok, so if i write this letter, wtf i am supposed to say in it. Uh, exhuast should be legalized? i mean, i dont know how to put it in a professional maner.
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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!
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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!
04-23-2001, 03:37 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Type S Smokes All:
ok, so if i write this letter, wtf i am supposed to say in it. Uh, exhuast should be legalized? i mean, i dont know how to put it in a professional maner.
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ok, so if i write this letter, wtf i am supposed to say in it. Uh, exhuast should be legalized? i mean, i dont know how to put it in a professional maner.
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you think i read all that? 
i'll read it in class later tomorrow and let you know
04-23-2001, 03:54 AM
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I was pretty bored so I read most of it. Pretty interesting, but like he said, what are we supposed to say? I mean I dont have an exhaust, but I have a lot of friends that got a lot of tickets.
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CL 3.0 '98 - Cleared bumper, Hiper/Piaa/Polarg bulbs all around, PIAA 1700x fogs, AEM CAI, V1, and Mugen Pedals.
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04-23-2001, 05:19 AM
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For people outside of CA that want to help stop it here before it spreads to your neck of the woods, just send in an email and say that you live in CA 
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04-23-2001, 03:39 PM
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What I'm curious about is if loud exhausts apply to motorcycles. I think I hear more deafening Harley's than aftermarket car exhausts any day.
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04-23-2001, 07:00 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Speed_Racer:
What I'm curious about is if loud exhausts apply to motorcycles. I think I hear more deafening Harley's than aftermarket car exhausts any day.
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What I'm curious about is if loud exhausts apply to motorcycles. I think I hear more deafening Harley's than aftermarket car exhausts any day.
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04-23-2001, 07:24 PM
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Lucky me! my greddy exhausts should be here by tomrorow=)
But CLpower, can u tell us what to write? likea form or somthing? make it easier
i will sign it,, I mean we should just have 1 letter with all of us's signatures and phone#s... it s gonna be easier that way.
But CLpower, can u tell us what to write? likea form or somthing? make it easier
i will sign it,, I mean we should just have 1 letter with all of us's signatures and phone#s... it s gonna be easier that way.
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