Bought some Toyo T1S Proxys
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Bought some Toyo T1S Proxys
I love these tires! They blows doors on the stock tires, but most anything would. ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
I got a great price on the tires so I decided to go for it.
I speak to the assistant mgr and tell him that I'm anal about my car and that it's very easy to scratch those particular rims so to please be extra careful. They're working on removing the last tire from the rim and something 'pops'.
The guy sees the look on my face and tells me that the bead broke and scratched my rim.
They're going to replace it but it's a week before they can get a rim in so I trade him the week for a free alignment. ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
Then I have this bright idea! Why not have them credit me the cost of the scratched rim and check on the cost of 4 SSR Competition wheels? They working on that now so I'll see what kind of deal I can work w/them.
My advice to anyone that's thinking about buying sways is to buy a better tire first. The sways will improve the body roll but the stock tires will still fold over when pushed hard.
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I got a great price on the tires so I decided to go for it.
I speak to the assistant mgr and tell him that I'm anal about my car and that it's very easy to scratch those particular rims so to please be extra careful. They're working on removing the last tire from the rim and something 'pops'.
The guy sees the look on my face and tells me that the bead broke and scratched my rim.
![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/frown.gif)
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Then I have this bright idea! Why not have them credit me the cost of the scratched rim and check on the cost of 4 SSR Competition wheels? They working on that now so I'll see what kind of deal I can work w/them.
My advice to anyone that's thinking about buying sways is to buy a better tire first. The sways will improve the body roll but the stock tires will still fold over when pushed hard.
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There isn't a mileage guarantee on these tires. I'm hoping they'll last 25-30k miles.
Paid 141.75 per tire. The shorter life of the tire is well worth it IMO.
If you're going to play you have to pay.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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Paid 141.75 per tire. The shorter life of the tire is well worth it IMO.
If you're going to play you have to pay.
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the price is cool...
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think more 10-15,000
but then again 25 sounds doable since there proxes
good thinkin on the rims mike. If you need help finding a deal i might be able to see what i can do
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good thinkin on the rims mike. If you need help finding a deal i might be able to see what i can do
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Let me know quickly on the rims! I have a price quote of $1363.19 for the SSR Comps.
They are 17x8 w/a +48 offset. IM me!!
Arnold, do you have any contacts for rims?
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They are 17x8 w/a +48 offset. IM me!!
Arnold, do you have any contacts for rims?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
I love these tires! They blows doors on the stock tires, but most anything would.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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...My advice to anyone that's thinking about buying sways is to buy a better tire first. The sways will improve the body roll but the stock tires will still fold over when pushed hard.
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I love these tires! They blows doors on the stock tires, but most anything would.
![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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...My advice to anyone that's thinking about buying sways is to buy a better tire first. The sways will improve the body roll but the stock tires will still fold over when pushed hard.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
Let me know quickly on the rims! I have a price quote of $1363.19 for the SSR Comps.
They are 17x8 w/a +48 offset. IM me!!
Arnold, do you have any contacts for rims?
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Let me know quickly on the rims! I have a price quote of $1363.19 for the SSR Comps.
They are 17x8 w/a +48 offset. IM me!!
Arnold, do you have any contacts for rims?
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Nope, that's just the tires before tax and installation.
I'm also receiving a $250 credit for the rim they scratched and that's included in this price quote.
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I'm also receiving a $250 credit for the rim they scratched and that's included in this price quote.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
Nope, that's just the tires before tax and installation.
I'm also receiving a $250 credit for the rim they scratched and that's included in this price quote.
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Nope, that's just the tires before tax and installation.
I'm also receiving a $250 credit for the rim they scratched and that's included in this price quote.
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The tires fit *and* the wheels fit. Everything fits. You could even lower the car and inch or two. Just don't get carried away.
The 235 Toyos with SSR Competitions also take a good curb beating without having to replace the TIRES or RIMS (as in the case of the stock wheels).
The Doctor will meet with any patients who want to become meat (if they show up with stock tires and sways) in the hills.
The 235 Toyos with SSR Competitions also take a good curb beating without having to replace the TIRES or RIMS (as in the case of the stock wheels).
The Doctor will meet with any patients who want to become meat (if they show up with stock tires and sways) in the hills.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DrJeckle and Hyde:
The tires fit *and* the wheels fit. Everything fits. You could even lower the car and inch or two. Just don't get carried away.
The 235 Toyos with SSR Competitions also take a good curb beating without having to replace the TIRES or RIMS (as in the case of the stock wheels).
The Doctor will meet with any patients who want to become meat (if they show up with stock tires and sways) in the hills.</font>
The tires fit *and* the wheels fit. Everything fits. You could even lower the car and inch or two. Just don't get carried away.
The 235 Toyos with SSR Competitions also take a good curb beating without having to replace the TIRES or RIMS (as in the case of the stock wheels).
The Doctor will meet with any patients who want to become meat (if they show up with stock tires and sways) in the hills.</font>
Vich hills vouldt dose be Herr Doktor?
Buuwahahahah!
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Perhaps you zpeak viz experience, Ja?
Vich hills vouldt dose be Herr Doktor?
Buuwahahahah!
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Perhaps you zpeak viz experience, Ja?
Vich hills vouldt dose be Herr Doktor?
Buuwahahahah!
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The doctor speaks from experience
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The doctor think those Santa Monica Mountains with those big drops would be good for the patient's fear of heights. A good run with some 900 foot drops.
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Dude... post a pic of the tires!
I love sexy tread designs!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DrJeckle and Hyde:
The doctor has your number (he has his ways...).
The doctor speaks from experience![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
The doctor think those Santa Monica Mountains with those big drops would be good for the patient's fear of heights. A good run with some 900 foot drops.
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The doctor has your number (he has his ways...).
The doctor speaks from experience
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The doctor think those Santa Monica Mountains with those big drops would be good for the patient's fear of heights. A good run with some 900 foot drops.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
There isn't a mileage guarantee on these tires. I'm hoping they'll last 25-30k miles.
Paid 141.75 per tire. The shorter life of the tire is well worth it IMO.
If you're going to play you have to pay.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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There isn't a mileage guarantee on these tires. I'm hoping they'll last 25-30k miles.
Paid 141.75 per tire. The shorter life of the tire is well worth it IMO.
If you're going to play you have to pay.
![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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Here are pics of the SSR comps with the Toyo T1-S proxes (235-45ZR/17):
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high
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G-Tech (Full tank of gas, 60F, VSA off, SS) - 5.94 seconds
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http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...nce=0&res=high
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Way cool Technique--you've just answered my previous post as to what tire I should get. Thanks!
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They were having a sale on them. 3 tires for the price of 4. I spoke to one guy and he quoted me a price of $189/tire. I called back a couple of days later to verify the price and the assitant mgr quoted me $242/tire. I told him I'd spoken to someone earlier in the week (didn't get his name) and he'd quoted me a price of 189/tire. He didn't even blink and honored that price.
If anyone wants a good tire store in San Diego check out Goodyear Tires on Poway road. They're honest, fast, perform excellent work and will match any competitive price even from the Inet!
Thanks for moving your pics to photopoint Tech!
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If anyone wants a good tire store in San Diego check out Goodyear Tires on Poway road. They're honest, fast, perform excellent work and will match any competitive price even from the Inet!
Thanks for moving your pics to photopoint Tech!
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Technique:
Woah, where did you get this price from? Are you in Cali? Great price on the rims too.
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Woah, where did you get this price from? Are you in Cali? Great price on the rims too.
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Technique, how many miles on those suckers?
They look as bald as a babys behind!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Technique, how many miles on those suckers?
They look as bald as a babys behind!
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Technique, how many miles on those suckers?
They look as bald as a babys behind!
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They look that way, they have plenty of tread. Technique is showing a little negative camber (look carefuly and you will see). They don't look as deep as the stock tires, but the tread is very, very nasty.
The Doctor has had a number of people stop and make comments about those wheels and tires!
(The doctor can make a comment about those rear tread shots, since the doctor's look the same. Driving at 80 thru 40 mph turns does make for a well scrubbed looking tires
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I noticed that neg camber but dismissed because I don't believe Tech has springs installed.
I took a posted 20 mph turn at 50 and the tires stuck like glue! Of course the springs and sways helped too.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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I took a posted 20 mph turn at 50 and the tires stuck like glue! Of course the springs and sways helped too.
![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
I noticed that neg camber but dismissed because I don't believe Tech has springs installed.
I took a posted 20 mph turn at 50 and the tires stuck like glue! Of course the springs and sways helped too.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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I noticed that neg camber but dismissed because I don't believe Tech has springs installed.
I took a posted 20 mph turn at 50 and the tires stuck like glue! Of course the springs and sways helped too.
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OK -- maybe, warp 8 in the wee hours.
Dr can't allow speeds about warp 10 due to time police issues. Besides, do you really want to meet up with the doctor in merry old England (on a time/speed warp regression)?
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I'm almost sold on this concept but I'm hung up on the the offset. I'm thinking wheels with +50, 51 or 52 -if they will fit in front.
The anthracite seems to look good in the pics, though; which surpises me. It's not at all like having black rims.
The anthracite seems to look good in the pics, though; which surpises me. It's not at all like having black rims.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Water Rabbit:
I'm almost sold on this concept but I'm hung up on the the offset. I'm thinking wheels with +50, 51 or 52 -if they will fit in front.
The anthracite seems to look good in the pics, though; which surpises me. It's not at all like having black rims.</font>
I'm almost sold on this concept but I'm hung up on the the offset. I'm thinking wheels with +50, 51 or 52 -if they will fit in front.
The anthracite seems to look good in the pics, though; which surpises me. It's not at all like having black rims.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Technique, how many miles on those suckers?
They look as bald as a babys behind!
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Technique, how many miles on those suckers?
They look as bald as a babys behind!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
I noticed that neg camber but dismissed because I don't believe Tech has springs installed.
I took a posted 20 mph turn at 50 and the tires stuck like glue! Of course the springs and sways helped too.![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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I noticed that neg camber but dismissed because I don't believe Tech has springs installed.
I took a posted 20 mph turn at 50 and the tires stuck like glue! Of course the springs and sways helped too.
![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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Also, what tires pressures are you guys with toyo T1-S proxes running? I am at 32 PSI right now but I've seen people as high as 39 PSI (EricL).
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I let my springs settle (Comptech said they wouldn't but trust me because they did) and my alignment was off but I couldn't tell once everything was straightened out.
I'm at 32psi right now but I'm planning on running 35 psi and then trying 40 psi to see which suits me more.
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I'm at 32psi right now but I'm planning on running 35 psi and then trying 40 psi to see which suits me more.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Technique:
Ya, I don't have springs installed. I am going to take my car in for full 4-wheel alignment this week I guess. Do you think the negative camber has produced any effects I will notice gone after the car is fully aligned?
Also, what tires pressures are you guys with toyo T1-S proxes running? I am at 32 PSI right now but I've seen people as high as 39 PSI (EricL).
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Ya, I don't have springs installed. I am going to take my car in for full 4-wheel alignment this week I guess. Do you think the negative camber has produced any effects I will notice gone after the car is fully aligned?
Also, what tires pressures are you guys with toyo T1-S proxes running? I am at 32 PSI right now but I've seen people as high as 39 PSI (EricL).
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DrJeckle and Hyde:
The +48 really does fit (in 7.5" and 8"). The +50 to +52 would just add 2-4mm more room to the inboard wheel and 2-4mm back out. If the wheels you want are in 50-52, you could probably make 'em work. You biggest concern might be with the rear inner fenders...
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The +48 really does fit (in 7.5" and 8"). The +50 to +52 would just add 2-4mm more room to the inboard wheel and 2-4mm back out. If the wheels you want are in 50-52, you could probably make 'em work. You biggest concern might be with the rear inner fenders...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Technique:
Here are pics of the SSR comps with the Toyo T1-S proxes (235-45ZR/17):
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Here are pics of the SSR comps with the Toyo T1-S proxes (235-45ZR/17):
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Correct, it's the inner position you want to maintain. ball park; +50 for 71/2, and +45 for 8", that would be with 225 and 235 tires respectfully.
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red CL-S, non-Nav
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Eat Safe, Use Condiments
red CL-S, non-Nav
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mike:
The SSR Comps are 17x8 w/an offset of +48.
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The SSR Comps are 17x8 w/an offset of +48.
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Silver CL-S w/ Navi, Spoiler, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray, 19169, 9005
Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on 17X8 SSR Competition Wheels (47.2 lbs lighter than stock wheel+tire setup)
Comptech Sways
G-Tech (Full tank of gas, 60F, VSA off, SS) - 5.94 seconds
V-1 Hardwired
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Rear camber note:
The normal offset for the back is 0.0 - -1.0 degrees of negative camber in the rear. The lowering springs will add to that, but our cars and a lot of cars allow for a little bit of negative camber.
In general, negative camber helps handling. It will reduce tread life, but the car is not always going down a straight line, so there are trade-offs. The negative camber seems to "sit" well with the Toyos.
Some tires work best with a suspension that keeps them very flat on the ground. The CL-S seems to have some very good suspension at work keeping the tires very well planted on the road.
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