best rotor/pad combo for my needs?
10-28-2011, 05:11 PM
#41
Master of Mountain roads
CL-S Progression 01,
We've got an Audi A4 and I have to tell you, I'll never buy another Audi. They are a grotesquely over rated car; rattles, squeaks, oil leaks, constantly failing coil packs, a cooling system problem in which the replacement of a $23 part that was visible with the hood open cost me over $700 to have replaced. I'd buy a Kia before I'd buy another one.
We've got an Audi A4 and I have to tell you, I'll never buy another Audi. They are a grotesquely over rated car; rattles, squeaks, oil leaks, constantly failing coil packs, a cooling system problem in which the replacement of a $23 part that was visible with the hood open cost me over $700 to have replaced. I'd buy a Kia before I'd buy another one.
10-28-2011, 05:27 PM
#42
lol our cars and brakes.. geeze.
i cannot wait for the day when acura and honda actually put on a braking system that outperforms the car.
lol even their nsx caliper are OK but not even special.
100000$ car and u get the calipers that should have been on the CL.
even the new accords have garbage brakes. i know 3 ppl with that car and they all think the skimped on a FEW areas.. accept one of them who switch from a chevy to a honda... lol chevy
like u'd think the new acura csx would have WAY better brakes than the civic, for all that extra $$$$, but no still get chinsed.
next car is gonna be a BMW or AUDI, two companies that don't chinse u out
i cannot wait for the day when acura and honda actually put on a braking system that outperforms the car.
lol even their nsx caliper are OK but not even special.
100000$ car and u get the calipers that should have been on the CL.
even the new accords have garbage brakes. i know 3 ppl with that car and they all think the skimped on a FEW areas.. accept one of them who switch from a chevy to a honda... lol chevy
like u'd think the new acura csx would have WAY better brakes than the civic, for all that extra $$$$, but no still get chinsed.
next car is gonna be a BMW or AUDI, two companies that don't chinse u out
I don't see how it would be smart for Acura. It would just cost them alot more money and probably decrease sales because then the sticker price goes up. When selling cars you have to remember most people are stupid and sticker price is what they look at(not how many pistons the calipers have). Acura needs to be cheaper than bmw audi etc to succeed imo.
Last edited by brian6speed; 10-28-2011 at 05:31 PM.
10-28-2011, 08:29 PM
#43
Three Wheelin'
I agree. However, the hardest thing I've found is determining the manufacturers origin. Especially, when your sitting at the computer looking at a webpage that gives only rotor specs and noise about how wonderful they will be for said car, but no data on country of manufacture.
So far DBA, and EBC are the only ones I have found that are not Chinese steel. I did notice that when I got my EBC rotors for the CLS that they were made in Japan. I caled EBC in England (Becasue I thought they could be fake) and they said they are now casting them in Japan and England. They said IIRC that the lower volume rotors (CLS) where being done there. I abused the shit out of the EBC's 3gd's on the CLS and they never gave me a problem. I used the Yellow Stuff pads.
10-28-2011, 08:33 PM
#44
Three Wheelin'
You are correct. I gotta learn to go to sleep instead of sitting on the computer late at night 
My Powerslots have a painted hub and the vent area is painted as well. I believe the slots are painted too. No rust in those areas. The surface of the rotor rusts if they get wet and sit for a while, but a quick drive and that rust is gone.
True. Hell, IIRC Brembo switched their manufacturing to China for some of the rotors
ThomWV is right about slots/drills vs blanks. Ive posted that in the past and gotten into an argument with a few people regarding it. Drilled rotors are not good. Slotted is ok. Blanks are best.
My Red Stuff pads would squeal like crazy for the first 2-300 miles. It was like a metal on metal sound. Really high pitched, really loud, and really annoying. Then one day the noise was gone and theyve been great since. Every once in a while, when it is really cold in the morning and Im back out of my driveway, they will squeal. But only that once and then its back to silence.
My Powerslots have a painted hub and the vent area is painted as well. I believe the slots are painted too. No rust in those areas. The surface of the rotor rusts if they get wet and sit for a while, but a quick drive and that rust is gone.
True. Hell, IIRC Brembo switched their manufacturing to China for some of the rotors
ThomWV is right about slots/drills vs blanks. Ive posted that in the past and gotten into an argument with a few people regarding it. Drilled rotors are not good. Slotted is ok. Blanks are best.
My Red Stuff pads would squeal like crazy for the first 2-300 miles. It was like a metal on metal sound. Really high pitched, really loud, and really annoying. Then one day the noise was gone and theyve been great since. Every once in a while, when it is really cold in the morning and Im back out of my driveway, they will squeal. But only that once and then its back to silence.
10-28-2011, 10:23 PM
#45
Suzuka Master
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Thats is the hardest part. I went round and round with Rotora for about 2 weeks on that subject. Finnally a guy there (I forgot his name now) admitted they use Chinese blanks. Like most other manufatures do. Then one of the vendors here (don't remember which one it was that was pushing Rotora) tried to assure me they were not made with Chinese blanks. But could not tell me where they were made.
So far DBA, and EBC are the only ones I have found that are not Chinese steel. I did notice that when I got my EBC rotors for the CLS that they were made in Japan. I caled EBC in England (Becasue I thought they could be fake) and they said they are now casting them in Japan and England. They said IIRC that the lower volume rotors (CLS) where being done there. I abused the shit out of the EBC's 3gd's on the CLS and they never gave me a problem. I used the Yellow Stuff pads.
11-08-2011, 10:52 AM
#47
Suzuka Master
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decided im going to do another set of EBC rotors/pads. thanks everyone for the input and healthy debate. im going to hit up excelerate.
Last edited by p.diddy; 11-08-2011 at 10:55 AM.
11-08-2011, 05:14 PM
#48
Master of Mountain roads
P. Diddy,
That's just about the conclusion I came to as well - before I found out I probably don't need brakes. On that question about the grading number, the one you want is 3000, and that coincides with what is used by both Brembo and EBC and probably lots of others too. I don't care much where the blanks are cast but I do care where they are machined and on further reading I came to the revised conclusion that while drilling and dimpling don't do any good at all there may be some merit to slotted rotors. With that in mind and after reading review after review and more false leads from Google than you can imagine this is the combination I think will work best; slotted EBC rotors* and their Redstuff 3000 pads. I just couldn't find anything bad being said about them and even thought it was clear that many reviewers were - how shall I say this? - enjoying the exuberance of youth in their descriptions of perceived improvement with their use it still got through to me that even the most conservative of reviews noted significant seat-of-the-pants improvement.
*EBC USR Ultimax BlackDash Slotted Rotors (Front Part Number: USR7087)
That's just about the conclusion I came to as well - before I found out I probably don't need brakes. On that question about the grading number, the one you want is 3000, and that coincides with what is used by both Brembo and EBC and probably lots of others too. I don't care much where the blanks are cast but I do care where they are machined and on further reading I came to the revised conclusion that while drilling and dimpling don't do any good at all there may be some merit to slotted rotors. With that in mind and after reading review after review and more false leads from Google than you can imagine this is the combination I think will work best; slotted EBC rotors* and their Redstuff 3000 pads. I just couldn't find anything bad being said about them and even thought it was clear that many reviewers were - how shall I say this? - enjoying the exuberance of youth in their descriptions of perceived improvement with their use it still got through to me that even the most conservative of reviews noted significant seat-of-the-pants improvement.
*EBC USR Ultimax BlackDash Slotted Rotors (Front Part Number: USR7087)
Last edited by ThomWV; 11-08-2011 at 05:20 PM.
11-08-2011, 06:53 PM
#49
i have autozone rotors and they are megahellastatic warped and im fine with it because i cant even push my car because of issues i have now
j/k
they are warped and need to find something real soon dont know if im gonna do RL swap or wilwood or im just gonna replace rotors and pads with some quality more agressive pads
j/k
they are warped and need to find something real soon dont know if im gonna do RL swap or wilwood or im just gonna replace rotors and pads with some quality more agressive pads
11-09-2011, 09:01 AM
#51
Whats up with RDX owners?
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i have autozone rotors and they are megahellastatic warped and im fine with it because i cant even push my car because of issues i have now
j/k
they are warped and need to find something real soon dont know if im gonna do RL swap or wilwood or im just gonna replace rotors and pads with some quality more agressive pads
j/k
they are warped and need to find something real soon dont know if im gonna do RL swap or wilwood or im just gonna replace rotors and pads with some quality more agressive pads
11-09-2011, 09:43 AM
#53
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Sorry 
They did weigh like 30 pounds though.
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11-10-2011, 08:59 AM
#55
Whats up with RDX owners?
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I forgot about those flat rate boxes. IIRC they can be up to 70lbs. Nice
11-10-2011, 09:10 AM
#56
So what are the best choices for rear rotors? For the fronts I am going with the open slot 2 piece racingbrake rotors so I would like to try to somewhat match that.
I don't really want to go with ebc again this time. There are slotted stoptech and slotted Power Slot Cryo rotors. Are there any better choices and which would you prefer?
Also for the front I was going to use racingbrakes pads to match brands for compatability. Does this mean I should also use the same pads on the rear rotors even if they aren't racingbrake brand? Can you mismatch front and rear pads? I could always go with ebc red or yellow on all 4 I guess.
I don't really want to go with ebc again this time. There are slotted stoptech and slotted Power Slot Cryo rotors. Are there any better choices and which would you prefer?
Also for the front I was going to use racingbrakes pads to match brands for compatability. Does this mean I should also use the same pads on the rear rotors even if they aren't racingbrake brand? Can you mismatch front and rear pads? I could always go with ebc red or yellow on all 4 I guess.
11-11-2011, 08:44 AM
#60
Whats up with RDX owners?
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11-11-2011, 09:24 AM
#61
So what are the best choices for rear rotors? For the fronts I am going with the open slot 2 piece racingbrake rotors so I would like to try to somewhat match that.
I don't really want to go with ebc again this time. There are slotted stoptech and slotted Power Slot Cryo rotors. Are there any better choices and which would you prefer?
Also for the front I was going to use racingbrakes pads to match brands for compatability. Does this mean I should also use the same pads on the rear rotors even if they aren't racingbrake brand? Can you mismatch front and rear pads? I could always go with ebc red or yellow on all 4 I guess.
I don't really want to go with ebc again this time. There are slotted stoptech and slotted Power Slot Cryo rotors. Are there any better choices and which would you prefer?
Also for the front I was going to use racingbrakes pads to match brands for compatability. Does this mean I should also use the same pads on the rear rotors even if they aren't racingbrake brand? Can you mismatch front and rear pads? I could always go with ebc red or yellow on all 4 I guess.
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