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Old 06-10-2005, 07:56 PM
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^^ preferably pre-throttle, but that means pre-supercharger... so... at the elbow.
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The supercharger would have no problem compressing the water/methonal mixture? I'm wondering if a little more boost could be run without the intercooler using water injection.
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So how often does it spray? Is there a pressure sensor that determines how much is dispensed and for how long? How will I know when the tank is getting low? Etc etc....
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You can set the psi at which it sprays...

You should check in the beginning approx. how long a tank lasts... you can add a little sensor to check for a low-level if you are so inclined. I check stuff all the time, so I will keep an eye on the level
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so you want to guess how long it will take to go through a 1 gallon tank?

you will need the e-manage for this modification?
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I have the IC with the Thermoblock spacers. There is only a clearnace issue if you want to keep your strut bar, hood is no problem though. After running my car around town, the IC does stays very cool, as opposed to before having the thermoblock spacers. To the touch, the IC feels pretty much at ambient temps.
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Originally Posted by Chemmech
I have the IC with the Thermoblock spacers. There is only a clearnace issue if you want to keep your strut bar, hood is no problem though. After running my car around town, the IC does stays very cool, as opposed to before having the thermoblock spacers. To the touch, the IC feels pretty much at ambient temps.

did you have to buy the complete kit?

did you you use new Manifold bolt?
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Yes, I had to buy the complete kit. The bolts supplied with the IC worked fine for the install of the spacer.
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Sorry I can not see lossing my stock strut bar... I felt torn when I lost the Cusco bar..

RAM: to get back on topic.
so you want to guess-ti-mate how long it will take to go through a 1 gallon tank?

you will need the e-manage for the water injectoion kit?
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I estimate about 2K of mixed driving for a 1-gallon tan??

No, you don't need the E_manage to run this
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sweet, let us know how it works out for you... I might look into it.. but then again.. I might move on to something else...
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any updates?
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I ordered the tank... waiting for it. Just been busy with work and stuff.. plus I might have to go to Asia next weekend so it will be a few weeks until it is in. For some reason I don't feel the 'rush' to install stuff anymore...
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Doesn't the water injection have the effect of leaning the mixture a bit also? If so, not a problem because of the temp advantage.
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
I ordered the tank... waiting for it. Just been busy with work and stuff.. plus I might have to go to Asia next weekend so it will be a few weeks until it is in. For some reason I don't feel the 'rush' to install stuff anymore...

Which tank did you go with?
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The 7 quart one...
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Very interesting find Ram.
Agree with the compliments Steve gaev you in the beginning, even though I am less a CL, I still like to see what new toys you have found
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^^^

High level knowledge is getting harder to find on these boards. Your advances are greatly appreciated.
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So in your opinion...

If I upgraded to 360cc's, e-Manage, and this 50/50 water/methanol injection kit could I run the 8-9psi pulley without an intercooler?
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
So in your opinion...

If I upgraded to 360cc's, e-Manage, and this 50/50 water/methanol injection kit could I run the 8-9psi pulley without an intercooler?
ive asked him a very similar question, and the answer is that most probably but we wont know until its tryed!
though this system can help lower temps quite a bit, whether or not it can be as effective as an IC is still to be determined. i hope to install it in a month or so and can give some feedback then.
even if you can not up the boost that high, you can still get at least 10 whp just by messing with the tuning because the car will be running cooler. to be honest, for an investment cost of less than 500, its well worth it even if you cant run more boost!
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
For some reason I don't feel the 'rush' to install stuff anymore...

100% with you on that statement.
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My tank arrived yesterday. I am off to Asia this weekend... so it will be at least the next weekend before I start installing
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cool, have a good time in asia!
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I might try this out. Looking at this kit too.

http://www.snowperformance.net/products.asp?id=1
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Using this solenoid so that I can mount the injector behind the throttle body (aka, Comptech elbow).
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Another question... since we've decided the elbow is the best location for a non-intercooled S/C'ed car, shoud I worry about spraying so close to the MAP sensor?
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It won't affect the MAP
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Any thoughts on where to mount the pump? the tank?
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Tank in trunk.... pump anywhere lower than the tank!
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Better for the pump to be closer to the motor or closer to the tank?

I'd assume the tank
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Interesting... this was one of the Google ads for this thread:

http://www.coolingmist.com/categorie...n=set&res=1280

Much less expensive than the Aquamist or SNOW products. They also have a dual stage kit so a small amount could be sprayed a low boost (no full throttle) and then a larger amount could be sprayed (via a larger injector) at full boost.
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hmm for nitrous applications i think that this could be quite useful, could this be setup so that it'll turn on only when nitrous is used? that would be a pretty nice setup.
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It won't help nitrous that much really. It's main purpose is to lower IAT/raise the octane of the fuel you burn. The octane enrichment will be beneficial to a nitrous setup, but lower IAT isn't as much of a concern with nitrous as it is with turbo/supercharger applications. Water injection is also beneficial to naturally aspirated cars with very high compression ratios. It can't hurt to run it with nitrous, but you won't see near the gains that you see with turbo/supercharger installs.
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thanks for the response mr steve... i've bought a nitrous setup for dirt cheap from my friend but im a bit hesitant to install it, not sure if the tranny can take it

BTW i saw your question up on coolingmist.com's FAQ section. so are you planning on buying from coolingmist? let us know what you decide on
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Okay i've got everything priced out and I'm going to order through coolingmist.com

I posted a question asking which system would be best for my setup and to my surprise I got a response back in under 5 minutes! And to top it off they suggested the most basic of kits (least expensive) or the slightly higher flow kit (150psi).

So i'll be getting the Deluxe Single Stage Kit $240
I'll be adding the Flow/clog detector (uses an LED to tell you if the system is running) $40
I'll also be using the SNOW performance 7 quart reservoir $50
And i'll most likely get another CompTech elbow so that I can uninstall the kit if needed ~$100.

$430 including the elbow from CompTech! Can't beat that! Even includes a 1 year warranty on the pump and already I've experienced excellent customer service.
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A solenoid or a brass check valve can be used (I decide when I order) to prevent fluid from pooling while you're in vaccum. I'm going to go for the brass checkvalve because it will be easier to install and more reliable IMO. They say it takes 45psi of pressure to open the valve so leaking fluid while out of the boost range won't be a problem. The less electrical components the better IMO.

There's also a 1 year warranty on the pump.

I'm very curious to see if this is enough to upgrade to 8-9psi. I'm sure one I have it installed and check the IAT drop with the system and compare that to what the S/C'ed and I/C'ed guys are running i'll be able to know if the temp drop is enough! I'm sure i'll need the e-Manage to add pulse width though...

Rough Install Instructions/Example
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
It won't help nitrous that much really. It's main purpose is to lower IAT/raise the octane of the fuel you burn. The octane enrichment will be beneficial to a nitrous setup, but lower IAT isn't as much of a concern with nitrous as it is with turbo/supercharger applications. Water injection is also beneficial to naturally aspirated cars with very high compression ratios. It can't hurt to run it with nitrous, but you won't see near the gains that you see with turbo/supercharger installs.

did you copy that verbatum off the aquamist site?
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