Anyone raced a new 350Z yet?
06-16-2003, 02:20 AM
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Anyone raced a new 350Z yet?
i just got my new CL-S and my friend is soon gonna get a 350Z so we got to wondering which one was faster so id thought id ask if anyone has raced a Z yet? stock theyve got 20somethin more hp than us, but i donno about the torque or weight factors. we would figure it out for ourselves but he wont get his Z for another month or so. i kinda thought the Z would have the edge (stock vs. stock) but wasnt sure. so, anyone?!
06-16-2003, 09:11 AM
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if it's an manual and the person knows how to shift then the Z will win without question. If it's an automatic and you are manual then you have a shot but even then.....
06-16-2003, 12:27 PM
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stock z will kill a stock cl-s, no matter what transmission either have.
a stock manual z will kill a highly modded auto cl-s. anything short of f/i or 3.5L upgrade will get beaten. i know from experience. i raced one at the track, i ran a 14.33, he ran a 14.23, bone stock.
a stock manual z will kill a highly modded auto cl-s. anything short of f/i or 3.5L upgrade will get beaten. i know from experience. i raced one at the track, i ran a 14.33, he ran a 14.23, bone stock.
06-16-2003, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
stock z will kill a stock cl-s, no matter what transmission either have.
a stock manual z will kill a highly modded auto cl-s. anything short of f/i or 3.5L upgrade will get beaten. i know from experience. i raced one at the track, i ran a 14.33, he ran a 14.23, bone stock.
stock z will kill a stock cl-s, no matter what transmission either have.
a stock manual z will kill a highly modded auto cl-s. anything short of f/i or 3.5L upgrade will get beaten. i know from experience. i raced one at the track, i ran a 14.33, he ran a 14.23, bone stock.
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06-16-2003, 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by ferizzo
Thats not even as fast as some others have gotten in the Z!
Thats not even as fast as some others have gotten in the Z!
06-16-2003, 10:53 PM
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i was talking stock and bolt on cl-s.
you don't qualify for either.
:P
you don't qualify for either.
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06-17-2003, 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Dunno... I raced one a while back and beat him slightly - Looking for one to race nowadays... but nobody wants to!!
Dunno... I raced one a while back and beat him slightly - Looking for one to race nowadays... but nobody wants to!!
06-17-2003, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Naturally Aspirated vs. Naturally Aspirated... I don't think you'll take a S/C'd or Turbocharged Z
Naturally Aspirated vs. Naturally Aspirated... I don't think you'll take a S/C'd or Turbocharged Z
find me one of those and i'll race him
06-19-2003, 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
I am dying to know what an AUTO Z runs...
I am dying to know what an AUTO Z runs...
06-19-2003, 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by Nighthawk CL-S
They average low 14s and I think one dude got a high 13 stock. 14.1-14.2 seems to be the average for auto Z's, for the 6-speed high 13s.
They average low 14s and I think one dude got a high 13 stock. 14.1-14.2 seems to be the average for auto Z's, for the 6-speed high 13s.
06-19-2003, 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by Nighthawk CL-S
They average low 14s and I think one dude got a high 13 stock. 14.1-14.2 seems to be the average for auto Z's, for the 6-speed high 13s.
They average low 14s and I think one dude got a high 13 stock. 14.1-14.2 seems to be the average for auto Z's, for the 6-speed high 13s.
for average numbers, i'd say mid 14's for the auto, low 14's for the 6mt. very low 14's.
06-19-2003, 09:06 PM
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Auto vs auto: If I'm running upper 14s with a FWD detuned version of the same motor (255hp VQ35DE), the new Z with its 287hp VQ and RWD should run low 14s consistently.
06-19-2003, 09:14 PM
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most auto max's don't run as quick as you have.
i stand by my above statement for average times on stock Z's.
i've run w/ them before. and i'll be at the strip w/ at least 2 6mt track models in september. so, we'll see.
i stand by my above statement for average times on stock Z's.
i've run w/ them before. and i'll be at the strip w/ at least 2 6mt track models in september. so, we'll see.
06-19-2003, 10:09 PM
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The Auto Z runs low 14's (~14.2-3) most of the time according to most track times on the Z board. The torque and closely spaced tranny make it pretty fast. My friend has an Auto Z and I race him all the time with my Manual Z. It's fairly close.
Allmotor: I don't believe they have H/Cams available for the Z yet. From many of the dyno's I have seen, the Z gets approx 240-245hp at the wheels. The 250+ hp is probably from a Z with an Intake or Exhaust only.
BTW just for a reference, my Z feels significantly faster than my old Auto CLS that ran a ~14.4 in the 1/4
Allmotor: I don't believe they have H/Cams available for the Z yet. From many of the dyno's I have seen, the Z gets approx 240-245hp at the wheels. The 250+ hp is probably from a Z with an Intake or Exhaust only.
BTW just for a reference, my Z feels significantly faster than my old Auto CLS that ran a ~14.4 in the 1/4
06-20-2003, 12:11 AM
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What's the point in racing an NA 350Z with a S/C'd CL-S... that's like someone in an S/C'd 350Z wanting to race an NA CL-S?
Yes... its fun to spank some of these cars on the freeway or wherever if your car is significantly quicker... but to have real bragging rights... I think the race should be more fair.
Yes... its fun to spank some of these cars on the freeway or wherever if your car is significantly quicker... but to have real bragging rights... I think the race should be more fair.
06-20-2003, 12:16 AM
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well, if it was your friend who owned the 350Z, wouldn't you race too?
06-21-2003, 03:38 AM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
What's the point in racing an NA 350Z with a S/C'd CL-S... that's like someone in an S/C'd 350Z wanting to race an NA CL-S?
Yes... its fun to spank some of these cars on the freeway or wherever if your car is significantly quicker... but to have real bragging rights... I think the race should be more fair.
What's the point in racing an NA 350Z with a S/C'd CL-S... that's like someone in an S/C'd 350Z wanting to race an NA CL-S?
Yes... its fun to spank some of these cars on the freeway or wherever if your car is significantly quicker... but to have real bragging rights... I think the race should be more fair.
Everytime he shifted he fell further behind.
06-24-2003, 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Red Rider
It was fair, the light turned green and we both went for it Everytime he shifted he fell further behind.
It was fair, the light turned green and we both went for it
Everytime he shifted he fell further behind.
For the record, that was me, and before my car was past the break-in period and before I knew how to launch it. I'll wager you a decaf Grande light-foam Latte that I'll keep up or surpass you next time we try.And don't forget who you were struggling to match pace with on the first two legs of the last twisty run...:P
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06-24-2003, 02:20 AM
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go for a venti.
06-24-2003, 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
most auto max's don't run as quick as you have.
i stand by my above statement for average times on stock Z's.
i've run w/ them before. and i'll be at the strip w/ at least 2 6mt track models in september. so, we'll see.
most auto max's don't run as quick as you have.
i stand by my above statement for average times on stock Z's.
i've run w/ them before. and i'll be at the strip w/ at least 2 6mt track models in september. so, we'll see.
06-24-2003, 03:51 PM
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maybe you did run a 14.67. but the average time of an auto max isn't gonna be that good.
doesnt anybody understand what the word average means
not the best, not the worst, but average.
doesnt anybody understand what the word average means
not the best, not the worst, but average.
06-24-2003, 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
maybe you did run a 14.67. but the average time of an auto max isn't gonna be that good.
doesnt anybody understand what the word average means
not the best, not the worst, but average.
maybe you did run a 14.67. but the average time of an auto max isn't gonna be that good.
doesnt anybody understand what the word average means
not the best, not the worst, but average.
06-24-2003, 09:53 PM
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i would buy into high 14's. my best guess would be 14.8-15.0.
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06-25-2003, 11:57 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by H@mmerm@n
[B]Humbug! For the record, that was me, and before my car was past the break-in period and before I knew how to launch it. I'll wager you a decaf Grande light-foam Latte that I'll keep up or surpass you next time we try.
......i dont think you will beat him...........ssssuuuuppppeeerrrccchhhaaarrggeeerr r....you wont win
[B]Humbug!
For the record, that was me, and before my car was past the break-in period and before I knew how to launch it. I'll wager you a decaf Grande light-foam Latte that I'll keep up or surpass you next time we try.......i dont think you will beat him...........ssssuuuuppppeeerrrccchhhaaarrggeeerr r....you wont win
06-25-2003, 12:29 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by azzkiker23
[B]
We'll let you know after we run again this weekend...
[B]
Originally posted by H@mmerm@n
Humbug! For the record, that was me, and before my car was past the break-in period and before I knew how to launch it. I'll wager you a decaf Grande light-foam Latte that I'll keep up or surpass you next time we try.
......i dont think you will beat him...........ssssuuuuppppeeerrrccchhhaaarrggeeerr r....you wont win
Humbug!
For the record, that was me, and before my car was past the break-in period and before I knew how to launch it. I'll wager you a decaf Grande light-foam Latte that I'll keep up or surpass you next time we try.......i dont think you will beat him...........ssssuuuuppppeeerrrccchhhaaarrggeeerr r....you wont win
06-25-2003, 02:15 PM
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i doubt you will either Mike. i raced a 6 speed at the strip, left him at the light, and he could not reel me in. he ran a 1/10 sec. quicker et than i did, but i was gone.
whoever wins gets a venti of their choice, and a lb. of coffee from me.
whoever wins gets a venti of their choice, and a lb. of coffee from me.
06-25-2003, 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
i would buy into high 14's. my best guess would be 14.8-15.0.
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i would buy into high 14's. my best guess would be 14.8-15.0.
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