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Old 11-02-2007, 12:46 PM
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it confuses me too. lol.
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you didn't make those? explain
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Thanks for the info CleanCL
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i did make them... i just dont remember off the top of my head the pattern, id need to go back under the hood and check out what i did.
Old 11-02-2007, 06:37 PM
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I'd be forever grateful if you could do a DIY on the VSA delete.
Old 11-02-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gc86
and NO RT has nothing to do with the 1/4 end result time.
Old 11-03-2007, 02:50 PM
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Whats so funny? i've gotten a 1 second RT and it didn't change my 1/4 time from the previous run.
Old 11-03-2007, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gc86
Whats so funny? i've gotten a 1 second RT and it didn't change my 1/4 time from the previous run.
Sometimes things like that happen...but you had to make up that 1 second somewhere along the track...you just drove better the second time.
Old 11-03-2007, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBlayz142
Sometimes things like that happen...but you had to make up that 1 second somewhere along the track...you just drove better the second time.
the clock doesnt start until r/t is established ! you can sit there all day ...until u make that light go green does the count start ! u might wanna go to a track some day ...
Old 11-03-2007, 06:26 PM
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Permanently disable VSA, and what happens if the next owner gets in an accident? Just hope they don't find out you disabled a safety feature?

Even if you hook it back up, plaintiff's counsel may contend you didn't get it right.
Old 11-03-2007, 06:28 PM
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John there are two clocks, one for your reaction time to the green and one for the car which is activated when your front tires leave and break the beam. Say you and your buddy have identically quick cars and both run run the same time, but he sits there one full second after the green comes on. Your times will be the same, say 14.50 but the rule is first to finish wins. So therefore the reaction time clock simply tells you (as a driving aid) how quick you were to react to the green. Leave too soon and you get a red light, leave .001 sec after it illuminates and you'll likely smear your friend and faster cars as well, because FIRST TO FINISH WINS! Hope this helps.
Old 11-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fish008
YProve that list with tests from identical magazines so their test procedures are identical. You just made a list and unless you can prove it, its just a list.

Here is your slower M3 SMG (sequential MANUAL GEARBOX) (which is an automated MT, not a slushbox) http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...mw-m3-smg.html Slower by 0.3 seconds to 60 I might add and that. If you don’t believe me that those automated manuals are still MTs read this.
Dude, come on. Magazine tests are not the most reliable source of info, considering they only test one production car, and neither does your point about that BMW, due to the same idea that it is one of many produced. Some are slower, some are faster the point is you are wrong and just live with it. dear lord. I'd say lock this thread but it has a useful point, so why don't you go start another thread in Car Talk about this AT vs MT shit so we don't have to listen to it anymore.
Old 11-04-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBlayz142
Sometimes things like that happen...but you had to make up that 1 second somewhere along the track...you just drove better the second time.
You sir are an idiot, enough said.
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Originally Posted by typeR
the clock doesnt start until r/t is established ! you can sit there all day ...until u make that light go green does the count start ! u might wanna go to a track some day ...
Many tracks do this, and many do not. Drag racing is a race against the clock, and I don't know people who don't factor their RT into their total time. It's a valid part of the race that really takes a lot of skill and can help a slower car beat a faster car in some situations. I guess the guys in the NHRA should just sit at the tree all day using this logic.
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You sir are an idiot, enough said.
Again, not all tracks do this, sir.
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Originally Posted by JohnBlayz142
Many tracks do this, and many do not. Drag racing is a race against the clock, and I don't know people who don't factor their RT into their total time. It's a valid part of the race that really takes a lot of skill and can help a slower car beat a faster car in some situations. I guess the guys in the NHRA should just sit at the tree all day using this logic.


Again, not all tracks do this, sir.
you are right, it's a race against the clock. is the winner who crosses the finishing line first, or the one who puts up the fastest time? because the guy who crosses first may not have the better time. RT is just how fast you react to the green light. if you are just trying to get a good time, that has no bearing at all in your 1/4 time. you can line up next to someone, they can leave, finish w/ a 14.5, and THEN you leave you can put up a 13.5...
Old 11-04-2007, 03:30 PM
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Clean CL is exactly right, FIRST TO FINISH WINS, reaction time only measures you against the tree. Yes you can beat a top fuel dragster if he leaves 10 or 11 seconds after you do. You turn a 15.0, he does a 15.1 you win.
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Originally Posted by ChucksCL-S
Clean CL is exactly right, FIRST TO FINISH WINS, reaction time only measures you against the tree. Yes you can beat a top fuel dragster if he leaves 10 or 11 seconds after you do. You turn a 15.0, he does a 15.1 you win.
i think you misunderstood...
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Originally Posted by JohnBlayz142
Many tracks do this, and many do not. Drag racing is a race against the clock, and I don't know people who don't factor their RT into their total time. It's a valid part of the race that really takes a lot of skill and can help a slower car beat a faster car in some situations. I guess the guys in the NHRA should just sit at the tree all day using this logic.


Again, not all tracks do this, sir.
all NHRA/IHRA cert. tracks do this and yes R/T has everything to do with who wins the race and NOTHING to do with what time you run period...none will ever have more passes on the CL than me with over 500 ...BTW i have also cut atleast one .500 light on a sportsman tree many .501 s and tons in the .5**... on the track and on the street ive beaten alot of faster cars by cutting alight, but it has never improved or hurt my time ...
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The CL drag master has spoken.
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