Another race! 2 Blondes in a V6 5spd 99+ Stang! hehe
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Another race! 2 Blondes in a V6 5spd 99+ Stang! hehe
These 2 fine ass women came up to me at a light. We just left the club and they come up saying nice ride, blah blah blah. I was like thanks, nice Yellow stang! Anyways, they were like wanna race, I was like damn a girl run, I was like hell yea, lets do this. VSA off, popped into SS, ready for launch, light went green she got a good launch, I spun a bit, then once I hooked up, it went way back, 3-4 cars back by 60-70. She even scratched 2nd!!!
She comes up at the next light we both said good run, got respect for a girl racing!
Anyways, she was like what you got in that thing, stock, 260hp! She was like damn. Hehee. I should have gotten there #'s, oh well.
She comes up at the next light we both said good run, got respect for a girl racing!
Anyways, she was like what you got in that thing, stock, 260hp! She was like damn. Hehee. I should have gotten there #'s, oh well.
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Good Kill, I also killed a new yellow stang v6 long time ago with dealer plate and driven by a sales man.. No competition at all!! After the raced I tried to bate him at the next stoplight again, but he insist and line up behind me..
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Good kill!
I just ran into a riced out v6 stang on the beltway. Funny thing is, dude thought i was trying, he was smiling when i let him catch up. After that my gf was like BURN HIM BAD. She stuck out her tongue at dude and i downshifted to 3rd and it was all over CAI screaming! hehehe! V6 stang is a waste of our gas. 
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Re: Another race! 2 Blondes in a V6 5spd 99+ Stang! hehe
Originally posted by SilverBullet
These 2 fine ass women came up to me at a light. We just left the club and they come up saying nice ride, blah blah blah. I was like thanks, nice Yellow stang! Anyways, they were like wanna race, I was like damn a girl run, I was like hell yea, lets do this. VSA off, popped into SS, ready for launch, light went green she got a good launch, I spun a bit, then once I hooked up, it went way back, 3-4 cars back by 60-70. She even scratched 2nd!!!
She comes up at the next light we both said good run, got respect for a girl racing! Anyways, she was like what you got in that thing, stock, 260hp! She was like damn. Hehee. I should have gotten there #'s, oh well.
These 2 fine ass women came up to me at a light. We just left the club and they come up saying nice ride, blah blah blah. I was like thanks, nice Yellow stang! Anyways, they were like wanna race, I was like damn a girl run, I was like hell yea, lets do this. VSA off, popped into SS, ready for launch, light went green she got a good launch, I spun a bit, then once I hooked up, it went way back, 3-4 cars back by 60-70. She even scratched 2nd!!!
She comes up at the next light we both said good run, got respect for a girl racing!
Anyways, she was like what you got in that thing, stock, 260hp! She was like damn. Hehee. I should have gotten there #'s, oh well.
08-20-2002, 12:02 AM
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I just ran a v6 stang in my wifes new v6 accord no contest it was close a sec and i mean a sec and then i left them about 3 to 4 cars buy 120mph!!! the car still had temp tags in it not even broken in!!!! not the new accord but the car still has some balls
not the new accord but the car still has some balls
08-20-2002, 08:37 AM
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Re: Re: Another race! 2 Blondes in a V6 5spd 99+ Stang! hehe
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The V-6 is 180HP or 190HP I can't remember which. In any case it's really not impressive to beat a V-6 mustang.
The V-6 is 180HP or 190HP I can't remember which. In any case it's really not impressive to beat a V-6 mustang.
thats why i love beatin' GT's 
im naughty!naughty! tommy want wingy
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Re: Re: Re: Another race! 2 Blondes in a V6 5spd 99+ Stang! hehe
Originally posted by typeR
for that matter 260 hp from americas muscle car isnt too impressive thats why i love beatin' GT's im naughty!naughty! tommy want wingy
for that matter 260 hp from americas muscle car isnt too impressive
thats why i love beatin' GT's im naughty!naughty! tommy want wingy
You have pullies and headers and you think you can beat 99+ mustang GTs. I'm very confident with my few mods and 100% stock engine, I could take ya,
Ever race an LT1?
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The last muscle cars became extinct long before your car was around.... As was said earlier,,,, new mustangs are not muscle cars, they are ponies. I promise you, if you raced a "real" muscle car, your little acura would get slammed... Also, why are you bragging that you beat a V6, if you can supposedly beat Cobras and GT's, why would you waste your time with a V6... You seem a little arrogant, it takes far more skill to not race, than to race something that has no ranking with you... You people should learn how to understan vehicle class. If you were in a real racing situation you wouldn't be pit against half the cars you race on the street...
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Originally posted by vinnydahitman
v-6 vs. v-6??? seems comparable to me.... or did you forget that our cars only have 6 cylinders since most do a pretty good job hanging with you 8 cyl gas guzzler???
v-6 vs. v-6??? seems comparable to me.... or did you forget that our cars only have 6 cylinders since most do a pretty good job hanging with you 8 cyl gas guzzler???
I guess because it has the same number of cylinders it is comparable and the v-6 mustang should be faster than it is. Keep in mind you can walk away with a brand new V-6 off the showroom floor, $13k. That's about $1000.00 more bucks than a hyundia midsize sedan. I hope your cars are faster than such a cheap car. What about power to power? The V-6 mustang is the base model, it is a girl's grocery getter. The CL-S has 260, so does the mustang GT. You're never going to get a true comparison because the cars are totally different built for totally different things. Base model stang against CL-S because they're both 6 cylinders? I guess...
Gas Mileage:
You think your car gets better gas mileage than my V-8? You are very wrong. First off I use 87 (all times cept 100+ weather, i'm being honest) so that's about 30 cents per gallon more you're paying right off the bat. Your car features 10.5:1 compression, that is why it requires high octane. My "gas guzzler" V-8 is a whooping 9.0:1 compression. The sticker on my car is 19/28. I get about that. You honestly get better gas mileage? Keep in mind, you're paying 30*gallons in tank extra so it better be getting atleast 30 mpg around town to compete cost wise.
Research these things before you say, oh it's a v-8 thus it guzzles gas. This is just another reason why I bought a SOHC mustang instead of a pushrod engine type car.
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i can take a gt off the line in my jeep with 35 inch tires on it and the mustang wont even start pulling on me till like 40mph, i do have 4.88 gearing in it but still without my borla exhaust/headers and k & n drop in filter i only have 180 or so HP with my inline 6
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Originally posted by vinnydahitman
v-6 vs. v-6??? seems comparable to me.... or did you forget that our cars only have 6 cylinders since most do a pretty good job hanging with you 8 cyl gas guzzler???
v-6 vs. v-6??? seems comparable to me.... or did you forget that our cars only have 6 cylinders since most do a pretty good job hanging with you 8 cyl gas guzzler???
I WILL RESTATE AGAIN... Supercharged cars don't race NA cars, it's stupid, it's trying to compare Apples to Oranges...
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Originally posted by JakeCL
i can take a gt off the line in my jeep with 35 inch tires on it and the mustang wont even start pulling on me till like 40mph, i do have 4.88 gearing in it but still without my borla exhaust/headers and k & n drop in filter i only have 180 or so HP with my inline 6
i can take a gt off the line in my jeep with 35 inch tires on it and the mustang wont even start pulling on me till like 40mph, i do have 4.88 gearing in it but still without my borla exhaust/headers and k & n drop in filter i only have 180 or so HP with my inline 6
You're not stating anything that's not obvious.. It's called mechanical advantage and traction from those tires. Any vehicle configured like that will do it, not just jeeps.
08-20-2002, 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by JakeCL
i can take a gt off the line in my jeep with 35 inch tires on it and the mustang wont even start pulling on me till like 40mph, i do have 4.88 gearing in it but still without my borla exhaust/headers and k & n drop in filter i only have 180 or so HP with my inline 6
i can take a gt off the line in my jeep with 35 inch tires on it and the mustang wont even start pulling on me till like 40mph, i do have 4.88 gearing in it but still without my borla exhaust/headers and k & n drop in filter i only have 180 or so HP with my inline 6
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I too raced a V6 stang with two blondies....however it was in Delaware...
interesting thing though, i met a girl from San Antonio this week and she's hanging all week here in Dewey Beach...
from talking to her, i'd love to come out to San Antonio once to visit...
any advice??
and you mustangs...you all need to grow a pair
that is all
~GT Killer...
interesting thing though, i met a girl from San Antonio this week and she's hanging all week here in Dewey Beach...
from talking to her, i'd love to come out to San Antonio once to visit...
any advice??
and you mustangs...you all need to grow a pair
that is all
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Originally posted by JakeCL
ill send you a pm next time im in sac and we can do it im in sd for school now till at least thanksgiving, as for drag radials if you need the extra edge go for it
ill send you a pm next time im in sac and we can do it im in sd for school now till at least thanksgiving, as for drag radials if you need the extra edge go for it
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Originally posted by De03CLS
I too raced a V6 stang with two blondies....however it was in Delaware...
interesting thing though, i met a girl from San Antonio this week and she's hanging all week here in Dewey Beach...
from talking to her, i'd love to come out to San Antonio once to visit...
any advice??
and you mustangs...you all need to grow a pair
that is all
~GT Killer...
I too raced a V6 stang with two blondies....however it was in Delaware...
interesting thing though, i met a girl from San Antonio this week and she's hanging all week here in Dewey Beach...
from talking to her, i'd love to come out to San Antonio once to visit...
any advice??
and you mustangs...you all need to grow a pair
that is all
~GT Killer...
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I do agree the new Mustangs are weak, but for there price they are well worth the value. If your going to go around and say you beat a Mustang you should choose a GT, if I wasn't living up here I'd go you for a run. Hell my car is even yellow too.
I agree with you 2000GTnoExtras on alot of points well made. Although I think I get the worst gas millage here. I raced 2 chicks in a red v6 Mustang. I was threw the intersection before they new what was going on.
I agree with you 2000GTnoExtras on alot of points well made. Although I think I get the worst gas millage here.
I raced 2 chicks in a red v6 Mustang. I was threw the intersection before they new what was going on.
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Originally posted by 2000GTnoExtras
Claim "GT Killer" but ya race 6 cylinders, seems like a waste to me
Claim "GT Killer" but ya race 6 cylinders, seems like a waste to me
:spankyourmonkey:Oh no i've raced GTs too...but it seems that the only drivers that have them are little pre-pubesent 16 year old hicks who like Dale and Jeff and seem to think they can drive like them...(only making a left turn)
Mustangs are what they are and that is all
Us 6cyls can give you a good run for your money...
hell I used to spank GTs in my old VW GTI VR6...and that was a 6cyl!!!
If anyone wants a nice friendly race on the east coast...stock for stock...i'm willing...
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Originally posted by De03CLS
Mustangs are what they are and that is all
Us 6cyls can give you a good run for your money...
Mustangs are what they are and that is all
Us 6cyls can give you a good run for your money...
'03 Acura 3.2CL TYPE S, YA4163JNW Coupe 2D (6-Spd.) (w/o Navigation System) = $31050.00
Both are Base Retail pricing for my zip code and as little options as possible.
30% more money.
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Originally posted by MustangIsFaster
Actually, I can count... but you're running a supercharger on that V-6, that's the only reason why you can even "hang" with us. Take it off, then go race someone....
I WILL RESTATE AGAIN... Supercharged cars don't race NA cars, it's stupid, it's trying to compare Apples to Oranges...
Actually, I can count... but you're running a supercharger on that V-6, that's the only reason why you can even "hang" with us. Take it off, then go race someone....
I WILL RESTATE AGAIN... Supercharged cars don't race NA cars, it's stupid, it's trying to compare Apples to Oranges...
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Originally posted by vinnydahitman
Really??? i didnt know anyone in the world had a supercharged cls... kewl... can you get me in contact with that person so i can get one two and then not only hang but beat you... i understand that cylinders dont make a difference but i just think its funny that a car with 2 more cylinders generates the same amount of HP... good technology there, maybe you should have gone with pushrod
Really??? i didnt know anyone in the world had a supercharged cls... kewl... can you get me in contact with that person so i can get one two and then not only hang but beat you... i understand that cylinders dont make a difference but i just think its funny that a car with 2 more cylinders generates the same amount of HP... good technology there, maybe you should have gone with pushrod
:P :P
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as far as pricing goes....very true
personal opinion though
you like your car...i like mine...leave it at that
both are very close in performance stock vs. stock
especially the 6speeds...
comes down to who gets a better start
and please...meet me in the twisties....meet me ....in the twisties my V8 friend
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Hmmm, about the technology, you really can't say the new SOHC Mustang is low tech, both cars are very high tech, seriously.
I like the CL-S, my dad has one, I just know my car is faster. I'm not upset about it though.
As for the twisties, I met a Z3 M roadster on the way to Reno, before I got my gears, he couldn't shake my ford, going 120+ up the hill. I do have the "Bullitt Suspension" consisting of 250/600 springs, and tokico shocks and struts.
I like the CL-S, my dad has one, I just know my car is faster. I'm not upset about it though.
As for the twisties, I met a Z3 M roadster on the way to Reno, before I got my gears, he couldn't shake my ford, going 120+ up the hill. I do have the "Bullitt Suspension" consisting of 250/600 springs, and tokico shocks and struts.
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Originally posted by De03CLS
and please...meet me in the twisties....meet me ....in the twisties my V8 friend
and please...meet me in the twisties....meet me ....in the twisties my V8 friend
I have the complete Level 3 G-Trac Steeda setup, Nitto 555R -285/35/ZR18-W on ultralight alum press wheels, Strut Tower braces front and rear, trac bar on A-Arms, etc....
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I would like to see some "real" time slips from some of your Acura's..... not G-Tech, not against other known cars... Real, from the track, time slips... then I will believe
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Silver bullet sounds to me like your just a mustang hater. I tell ya what. I'll come to you..i got a truck and trailer and i'll give you a friendly race and any other import on this board. Let me know if your interested..Oh yeah..let's make this a little $$$$$$$$ race.
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I stand corrected...nice work...but if you wanna go at it anyway, I just like having some fun!
Eric4Nitrous:ahem...if I needed a trailer to get my car to a race, then I would race you...we're talking stock vs. stock here...
JakeCL: Ditto I wanna know that too!
I am done with the :flamer: flaming...
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I stand corrected...nice work...but if you wanna go at it anyway, I just like having some fun!
Eric4Nitrous:ahem...if I needed a trailer to get my car to a race, then I would race you...we're talking stock vs. stock here...
JakeCL: Ditto I wanna know that too!
I am done with the :flamer: flaming...
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I test drove the new GT's and the LS-1's before I bought my cobra. Both cars are nice with good potential. But dont forget that the LS-1 is quite a bit more expensive.
I settled on the cobra cause it offered the best of both worlds the looks of a stang and speed.
Anyone live near west Texas I would love to race one of these Acura stang killers.
I will race in my cobra, my GT or even my suped up CRX.
I settled on the cobra cause it offered the best of both worlds the looks of a stang and speed.
Anyone live near west Texas I would love to race one of these Acura stang killers.
I will race in my cobra, my GT or even my suped up CRX.
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preference for me.. I don't like the way the Camaro looks, that an F-Body GM cars are known for their chassis problems. They have constant noise, rattles, etc.. It's been an issue for years, also when you sit in one it feels like you are sitting on the ground.
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Originally posted by JakeCL
just out of curiosity why would you buy a mustang gt 260hp over a z28 310 hp for around the same price?
just out of curiosity why would you buy a mustang gt 260hp over a z28 310 hp for around the same price?
I've got a question for you, why did you buy a CL if you want to race mustangs or any cars for that matter? Do you really think you can compete?
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Originally posted by De03CLS
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I stand corrected...nice work...but if you wanna go at it anyway, I just like having some fun!
Eric4Nitrous:ahem...if I needed a trailer to get my car to a race, then I would race you...we're talking stock vs. stock here...
JakeCL: Ditto I wanna know that too!
I am done with the :flamer: flaming...
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I stand corrected...nice work...but if you wanna go at it anyway, I just like having some fun!
Eric4Nitrous:ahem...if I needed a trailer to get my car to a race, then I would race you...we're talking stock vs. stock here...
JakeCL: Ditto I wanna know that too!
I am done with the :flamer: flaming...
~E
Thank you, I consider the issue forgotten.... I don't hate Acura's, I do like the way they look... I just have a problem with attitudes, it doesn't matter the car..
--BTW.. I am not trying to yell at anyone, so no one take anything I say personally, just a nice heated debate.
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2000GTnoExtras:
can we compete? why do you think we are even having this conversation? do you think we would say anything if we didn't think we could compete...
our cars aren't really meant for the dragstrip though, they just happen to be pretty quick...
we'll never have a 11 sec luxury coupe...
but you can easily have an 11 sec Mustang...
however...we think stock vs. stock...based on experience on the streets...that we can compete...and give you a good run...
ya know the difference between a 6 sec 0-60 car and a 5.4 sec 0-60 car?
blink...hesitate...and the 6 sec car might have ya...
how old are you anyway?
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can we compete? why do you think we are even having this conversation? do you think we would say anything if we didn't think we could compete...
our cars aren't really meant for the dragstrip though, they just happen to be pretty quick...
we'll never have a 11 sec luxury coupe...
but you can easily have an 11 sec Mustang...
however...we think stock vs. stock...based on experience on the streets...that we can compete...and give you a good run...
ya know the difference between a 6 sec 0-60 car and a 5.4 sec 0-60 car?
blink...hesitate...and the 6 sec car might have ya...
how old are you anyway?
~E
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Originally posted by MustangIsFaster
you don't even know the specs on my suspension, a little arrogant to challange me in the curves, that's where my car accels.... I have the complete Level 3 G-Trac Steeda setup, Nitto 555R -285/35/ZR18-W on ultralight alum press wheels. I would walk over your little car in the curves...... Strut Tower braces front and rear, trac bar on A-Arms, etc.... so, keep talking
you don't even know the specs on my suspension, a little arrogant to challange me in the curves, that's where my car accels.... I have the complete Level 3 G-Trac Steeda setup, Nitto 555R -285/35/ZR18-W on ultralight alum press wheels. I would walk over your little car in the curves...... Strut Tower braces front and rear, trac bar on A-Arms, etc.... so, keep talking
steeda G-Trac and bullitt suspension. De03CLS, look at the bullitt, cobra, and mach 1 they handle extremely well.
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Lots to see here. San Antonio is popular for tourism. www.mysa.com might have info on tourism somewhere. But we have lots from theme parks to the Alamo, etc.