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Amp Install
Just thought I'd drop a quick post about the Amp install I did a few weeks ago. This may help some if deciding to go the amp route.
This is in with the stock head unit and stock speakers. IMO, the system sounds about 250% better. It even helped the low end, sharpening the response. But my primary objective was for more volume which I have definitely acheived. I have the gain at only about 30% and at full volume the speakers are about to blow. But I don't turn it up there often.
What I am really surprised about is how well it sounds. There is no hissing as I would of expected at least a little. But just clear sound that is crisper and attains higher volumes than before.
This is hooked up after the factory amp using the speaker level inputs on the Pioneer Amp. I will eventually replace the factory speakers but wanted an incremental step to determine how quickly I should make the purchase.
This is in with the stock head unit and stock speakers. IMO, the system sounds about 250% better. It even helped the low end, sharpening the response. But my primary objective was for more volume which I have definitely acheived. I have the gain at only about 30% and at full volume the speakers are about to blow. But I don't turn it up there often.
What I am really surprised about is how well it sounds. There is no hissing as I would of expected at least a little. But just clear sound that is crisper and attains higher volumes than before.
This is hooked up after the factory amp using the speaker level inputs on the Pioneer Amp. I will eventually replace the factory speakers but wanted an incremental step to determine how quickly I should make the purchase.
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So give us the good info. Like how did you wired the speakers and stuff.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:
So guess us the good info. Like how did you wired the speakers and stuff.
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So guess us the good info. Like how did you wired the speakers and stuff.
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As for the speakers leads, I just cut them and spliced in. Taking each channel output from the factory amp into the speaker level input of the Pioneer. The the output of the Pioneer back to the other side of the cut wire that fed the speaker.
I located the amp there to keep it out of the way and because the factory amp is almost right behind the Pioneer. So just about two feet of speaker wire was needed per channel, one foot into the Pioneer and one foot back.
Took me about an hour total and the Amp cost about $230 on-line.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scalbert:
Really just basic. I ran the power from the battery and found a good ground lug. I used the factory amp remote turn on and just tapped it.
As for the speakers leads, I just cut them and spliced in. Taking each channel output from the factory amp into the speaker level input of the Pioneer. The the output of the Pioneer back to the other side of the cut wire that fed the speaker.
I located the amp there to keep it out of the way and because the factory amp is almost right behind the Pioneer. So just about two feet of speaker wire was needed per channel, one foot into the Pioneer and one foot back.
Took me about an hour total and the Amp cost about $230 on-line.</font>
Really just basic. I ran the power from the battery and found a good ground lug. I used the factory amp remote turn on and just tapped it.
As for the speakers leads, I just cut them and spliced in. Taking each channel output from the factory amp into the speaker level input of the Pioneer. The the output of the Pioneer back to the other side of the cut wire that fed the speaker.
I located the amp there to keep it out of the way and because the factory amp is almost right behind the Pioneer. So just about two feet of speaker wire was needed per channel, one foot into the Pioneer and one foot back.
Took me about an hour total and the Amp cost about $230 on-line.</font>
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Thats what I was thinking. Anyone know how to do that, as in what the wire codes are?
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hey wat color wire is the remote on/off for the amp? when i turn my amp off it don't turn off right.
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can the tl owner bud in here? thanks...
scalbert, thats wild. i didnt think your be able to power 2 ohm speakers with an aftermarket amp. thats great. how would you describe the improvement?
where is the amp for the sub located? behind that panel?
WebToker, i ran new wires to all my door speakers. its irritating to do. i wont bother giving you the wire colors since they MIGHT be different from the cls
you cant bypass the factory amp, its in the hu. the one in your trunk is for the sub. or correct me if im wrong with the cls
remote wire should be blue, no?
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scalbert, thats wild. i didnt think your be able to power 2 ohm speakers with an aftermarket amp. thats great. how would you describe the improvement?
where is the amp for the sub located? behind that panel?
WebToker, i ran new wires to all my door speakers. its irritating to do. i wont bother giving you the wire colors since they MIGHT be different from the cls
you cant bypass the factory amp, its in the hu. the one in your trunk is for the sub. or correct me if im wrong with the cls
remote wire should be blue, no?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mr tl:
can the tl owner bud in here? thanks...
scalbert, thats wild. i didnt think your be able to power 2 ohm speakers with an aftermarket amp. thats great. how would you describe the improvement?
where is the amp for the sub located? behind that panel?
WebToker, i ran new wires to all my door speakers. its irritating to do. i wont bother giving you the wire colors since they MIGHT be different from the cls
you cant bypass the factory amp, its in the hu. the one in your trunk is for the sub. or correct me if im wrong with the cls
remote wire should be blue, no?
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can the tl owner bud in here? thanks...
scalbert, thats wild. i didnt think your be able to power 2 ohm speakers with an aftermarket amp. thats great. how would you describe the improvement?
where is the amp for the sub located? behind that panel?
WebToker, i ran new wires to all my door speakers. its irritating to do. i wont bother giving you the wire colors since they MIGHT be different from the cls
you cant bypass the factory amp, its in the hu. the one in your trunk is for the sub. or correct me if im wrong with the cls
remote wire should be blue, no?
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Ok, Mr. TL, I have told you over and over the CL and the TL don't have the same system. ;P Now, can anyone tell me the wire codes for the factory amp?
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I posted the Audio Schematics here:Schematics
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS:
hey wat color wire is the remote on/off for the amp? when i turn my amp off it don't turn off right.
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hey wat color wire is the remote on/off for the amp? when i turn my amp off it don't turn off right.
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Thanks Shawn, you rock. This is exactly what I needed. Any chance I could get you to post the wire info for the head lamps and floods?
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12in Sub with AMP/Dynomated Trunk/Sub control under dash/
Clifford G4 Solaris Alarm
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12in Sub with AMP/Dynomated Trunk/Sub control under dash/
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Correct me if I am wrong Shawn, from the looks of page 22-148, I can just bypass the amp right? I wonder if that will affect the navi.
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12in Sub with AMP/Dynomated Trunk/Sub control under dash/
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Damn, Shawn u got all da hookupz. thnx for da post.
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Comptech Headers soon now that I have a JOB again. hehe
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load.
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My CL "Electrical Troubleshooting 2001" P/N 61S3M00EL PL 1100.2000.06.1 book has the stereo in section 150? It shows the Control switch B+ as being YEL/WHT to the rear amp.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:
So did you run the speaker wire to the speakers? What I need to find out is if anyone knows what wires are coming out from the stock amp to the speakers.
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So did you run the speaker wire to the speakers? What I need to find out is if anyone knows what wires are coming out from the stock amp to the speakers.
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I can bring my manual back in Monday, scan the page with the wiring codes and post it for ya. Give me until noon on Monday and I'll post it to my companies site for access.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by empeters:
I'm surprised you didn't bypass the factory amp completely?
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I'm surprised you didn't bypass the factory amp completely?
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Actually, now looking at the diagram the above statement is incorrect. Hrmm, I'm going to test the inputs to the amp and see what the level is. A change might be in order
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS:
hey wat color wire is the remote on/off for the amp? when i turn my amp off it don't turn off right.
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hey wat color wire is the remote on/off for the amp? when i turn my amp off it don't turn off right.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mr tl:
scalbert, thats wild. i didnt think your be able to power 2 ohm speakers with an aftermarket amp. thats great. how would you describe the improvement?
where is the amp for the sub located? behind that panel?</font>
scalbert, thats wild. i didnt think your be able to power 2 ohm speakers with an aftermarket amp. thats great. how would you describe the improvement?
where is the amp for the sub located? behind that panel?</font>
The Amp I put in is for 2 - 8 Ohm speakers, so it wasn't an issue.
As for the improvement, significant and certainly more defined. What appears to be the most significant, besides the definite volume level increase, is the low end. It seems that the Pioneer is able to drive the 6x9's much more efficiently. The response from them is soo much sharper, I was truly surprised.
And as a result (many of you will understand this) my wife even made a comment on how much better it sounded. This should not be taken lightly...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn S:
I posted the Audio Schematics here:Schematics
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I posted the Audio Schematics here:Schematics
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That's AWESOME Shawn, this link should go straight into the FAQ's/Links Section
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Any chance I could get you to post the wire info for the head lamps and floods?</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scalbert:
And as a result (many of you will understand this) my wife even made a comment on how much better it sounded. This should not be taken lightly...</font>
And as a result (many of you will understand this) my wife even made a comment on how much better it sounded. This should not be taken lightly...</font>
amen to that my brother
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do the tweeters have their own wires coming out of thestock amp. the reason i'm asking is because i plan to change the door speakers and tweeters this weekend and was just wondering where the crossover for the stock tweeters are now. are they built in into the stock speakers or tweeters, are they somewhere in the trunk by the amp, cuz obviously, when i buy component speakers, i will be using the crossovers that come with the speakers i buy. thanks!
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