Fact is, the announcing of your drawings to Scalbert only (whether serious or not) shows your sanctimonious nature more than ever before. Now, it's only my guess, but I bet there are many other people here with more CAD/milling experience than Scalbert and yourself, yet you chose to exclude that possibility. I, for one, emailed you immediately regarding the drawings because I and, and moreso one of the guys I work with, has extensive experience in this department and was willing to undertake it if the equipment we have is adequate. If not, he has already given me the number of a friend at a commercial shop that could bring those drawings to life in a heartbeat. And, I already offered to have one made for you free of charge if the drawings turned out to be correct.

But, the question is, "Are your drawings worth a damn, or are they just there to impress people?" Because, as I am well aware, an initial drawing is rarely the first and only drawing that will be necessary for a milling run--especially on something as precise as an engine component. If you were to send the entire file than I could have an expert take a look at it immediately to determine whether or not it was ready for a milling run.

What do you say? You game? Or do you just want to continue leading the members of ACL.com around by the nose like little puppy dogs? Personally, the fact that you can run a 13.X 1/4 mile etc. is totally meaningless because your CHARACTER is FLAWED and 13 seconds or not that will never change.

I doubt I'll be seeing those drawings.

Regards. JZ

 

JZ, I feel totally confident that these drawings are totally accurate and that he will provide us all with the full autocad drawings of the part...I believe this is his way of making good with everyone for his past over zealousness.

 

I have 12+ years of AutoCAD 3D design experience and an Engineering degree from Penn State to back it up if anyone needs some help with this project.

Shawn S

 

I IM him and ModeMole is very serious with his gesture.. He is not BS nor his drawings are a teaser.

The drawings would availabe for all. If your read his post again, he mentioned that this would be the case. It is not for Scalbert only. He asked soopa to host the drawing files.

Another member a CNC specialist offered me a free cut , an offer I can not refuse. I would dyno the unit and post my findings.

ModeMole did no show up today with his drawings, so what... big deal, we have been waiting for the freaking RES for more than 8 months now.... we can wait a week or so...

Now, if you get your hands on the drawings, can you send me a FREE cut....

 

Shawn,

From the initial 3D views, what do you think?

 

The drawings look good, but I don’t know how accurate the measurements are that were taken from the part.

It’s a simple piece really, if I had the proper dimensions, I could probably draw that up in 2-3 hours.
Calculating the proper airflow will be the real test.

I may pull mine off this weekend to take a look inside.
I have the perfect test MULE….It’s not my car in about 3-4 weeks.

Shawn S

 

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Give him a chance... Time will tell (we're only talking about a few days here).

I hope that most people realize that the drawings are NOT part 1 of a guaranteed cheaper and better Doug (AKA Syncivic) clone.

Syncivic tested his pre-production unit and it still needs to get built (per his satisfaction [pricing/fit/longevity/quality]) and he did want to "verify"/"validate" the operation of the unit over a range of conditions (and with different setups).

This project should be take for what it is -- one part of a do-it-yourself experiment.

 

The drawings are only relevant if you are to use CNC machining. Otherwise, with standard milling all you would need is the gasket as a template. Also, if you do not have direct access to CNC machining or can not do the milling, I suggest you wait as this would cost more than what Doug is offering. You would easily rack up $250+ in shop charges to do this.

But beyond the simple manufacturing of this spacer, which the drawings are far from complete, this is still just a concept and not proven. Heck, I found out last weekend that by simply increasing volume didn't do anything (but there may have been other issues). So until it is tried and tested I wouldn't suggest people go out and get a $40 - $60 chunk of aluminum and hunt down a machinist.

BTW, anyone with a scanner and a simple CAD program can make this, just scan the gasket and import it!!!

I have a piece in transit which is 9.5" X 15.3" and is surface ground to 1.003". This cost me $40 + $9 shipping and I have everything ready to cut and then mill it down which might be ready this weekend. But I'm a bit pessimistic about it working now, but at least I'm just using my time and little $$; imagine spending $200 on shop time and there end up being no benefits.

 

I apologize for being hot-headed about this. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

One other thing that nobody has mentioned is that Doug has put in for a patent for this piece. I'm quite sure he won't be too happy about all of these home-made mystery mods being produced--although legally nothing is wrong as long as they are not being sold.

From what I understand, the casting of a precision piece such as this is a very difficult undertaking, and it is no wonder that Doug is having considerable difficulties with it. Almost universally, the cast comes out at a different size than the mold due to cooling etc. and without super high-end computers running materials simulations it is very difficult to do this kind of work.

 

Oh god, it is happening all over again...

 

Just have the critical surfaces milled. There are calculations you can do to determine the amount of shrinkage. Pick up a Manufacturing Processes book at the library. Just my .02

 

I'm with you. I can't believe it.

Hey guys, I got a bridge for sale!

 

Hey guys, the last post from about the RES indicates that all molding and casting issues have resolved.

Now, they indicated it would take 60 days or less for test... Still no new updates....

No complains till April 6, 2002 The day the NE Dragway strip officially opens...

 

I am very surprised, my plate of aluminum showed up today. From WI to GA in two days with UPS Ground. Maybe I can get a rough cut done tonight...

 

My wife needs this so she will beleive me after I get out of a cold shower.

 

i can have one made out of titanium if need be
i also would like to look at the cad drawings, a friend in the business has some software to project airflow, stress, all sorts of things against machined parts