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Old 01-24-2001, 07:46 PM
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AEM CAI not due till 3 months

I got some info about the AEM CAI. They guy at my local performance shop said he called about the cl CAI and the told them not avail. for another 2 or 3 months. WTF is the deal w/ AEM. all they have to do is friggin resize the damn pipe.

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I vote we riot and storm their factory and make our own. I'd say it will take us 2 weeks max. I tell you they are stockpiling the CAI for their own use.
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Actually, I think all they have to do is move the mounting brace thing...I just installed the 98-00 Accord's on my 3.0 and I heard it is the same deal with the CL-S and CL-P. It seems really easy to fix that, but they have so many other products in line other than our intakes....I couldn't wait so I just bought the accord's

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Haven't they been saying 3 months for over 3 months now? Really how hard can it be?
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I say fuck AEM and lets go with Xephyrs Polished CAI.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:
I say fuck AEM and lets go with Xephyrs Polished CAI.


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Hell YEAH. Xephyr's is polished too.

go Xephyr, go Xephyer...

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tw1112:
Actually, I think all they have to do is move the mounting brace thing...I just installed the 98-00 Accord's on my 3.0 and I heard it is the same deal with the CL-S and CL-P. It seems really easy to fix that, but they have so many other products in line other than our intakes....I couldn't wait so I just bought the accord's

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As I have mentioned time and time again, just cut off 9 Inches, of the pipe...



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Why do that when we can get a polished one cheaper?

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WebToker,

Good point. Xephyr's Polished CAI is more reasonable; however, I believe AEM's K&N Filter also has a velocity stack built into it, thus allowing smoother air flow to the TB. If Xephyr can incorporate that into his CAI, he'll definitely have a good product. I believe he can do that by incorporating a RS Akimoto Funnel ram stack. What do you think Xephyr?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:
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I didn't say not to, the topic was about the AEM intake which the above is.

I got it for a couple of reasons. First I have made many home intake kits, all have worked well, but there have been some shortcomings like appropriate support for the filter. I ruined one 9" K&N cone when it had begun rubbing an edge in the engine compartment. I found it after it was about an inch large. Also, since it is essentially what AEM will be supplying there was no need to wait. I can cut some metal and it will still appear as though it were designed for the car.

I even have the CARB sticker for it...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scalbert:
I didn't say not to, the topic was about the AEM intake which the above is.

I got it for a couple of reasons. First I have made many home intake kits, all have worked well, but there have been some shortcomings like appropriate support for the filter. I ruined one 9" K&N cone when it had begun rubbing an edge in the engine compartment. I found it after it was about an inch large. Also, since it is essentially what AEM will be supplying there was no need to wait. I can cut some metal and it will still appear as though it were designed for the car.

I even have the CARB sticker for it...
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Off topic warning:

Hmmm... Are you saying that one could just take the Accord unit and use the CARB # with the CL-S (can't be that easy, can it?)

Has anybody ever had them "run" some Carb numbers of aftermarket parts at a smog check in California?




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No worries for this broke & stoned mo-fo! By summertime it'll be out and I'll be ready to partake in pure power passion in my new CL... Type S without a doubt.

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200+ $ for a CAI is rediculous...did i mention mine cost 75$ with a REAL K&N

so what if i have zip ties

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scalbert:
As I have mentioned time and time again, just cut off 9 Inches, of the pipe...
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Scalbert...I have a 98 3.0 so the bolting area is different for my car compared to yours. BUT..I know that you can do that...the reason that I have yet to do that is because I don't have an adequate tool to do the job. What did you use to cut the pipe and was it hard?


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CLpower:

so what if i have zip ties

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HAHA Yeah I remember that! It works though! I would have done the same but I got a deal on an AEM CAI for $150 after shipping and stuff.


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According to a local shop in the SF bay area, AEM will be releasing a cold air induction and a short ram in about a month or so for the Type-S.

Another alternative for those who want a carb approved short ram from aem, the short ram from the 3.0L 98 accord will fit with a slight nodification. Also I am assured that even with the modification the short ram should retain its CARB approval.
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FDAO,

Here is a quote from K&N, NOTE: This is not my research into velocity stack filter however as CAI offer the most gain at higher RPM and Speed Bands it does give another perspectice....

"Whenever possible, performance enthusiasts should install a K&N 360 degree open-element filter. A correctly sized conical or round filter will deliver 100 percent air flow with no measurable restriction. And, as we have learned, providing the engine with all of the air it needs promotes optimum performance. In a high speed application, a K&N filter will straighten the air which counteracts turbulence. Straight cut velocity stacks, for example, pose a unique problem. Exposed to the outside air, velocity stacks experience a phenomena that actually hinders performance at high speed. We are referring to stacks and air horns that protrude through the hood and extend into the air stream so the direction of the air rushing over the car is at a perpendicular angle to the length of the tube.

Air moving rapidly over these stacks create turbulence inside the opening. At high speed, the rushing air tends to create a partial vacuum inside the tube. The condition is counterproductive to air flow. The phenomena also effects open carburetors. The higher the ground speed, the greater the problem. Vacuum created by the engine is trying to coax air into the cylinders and the high speed air flowing over the open end of the stack is causing resistance.

Reversion creates other problems. In an automotive application, reversion refers to reversed air flow, or in simpler terms, it's when air in the intake runner reverses direction for a split second. The condition is caused when a burst of pressure escapes into the intake runner from the cylinder during valve overlap. Studies have shown reversion creates resonance shock waves inside the tubes which exit the open end of the tube at various rates depending on engine speed. It has also been proven that these shock waves interfere with each other when the stacks are in close proximity. Installing a free-flowing air filter on top of each stack or over the carburetor air horn eliminates these conditions.

How? The solution is simply explained. The filter creates a plenum over the opening. Air entering the filter is slowed, smoothed and straightened. The filter then becomes an endless source of calm, clean air. Shock waves dissipate within the confines of the plenum without interfering with the shock waves emitted from an adjacent stack. "

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[insert Xephyr CAI advertisement here]



J/p around, I don't think I would be able to justify the price difference between AEM and Xephyr with the performance so I just picked up Xephyr's now. Plus he's obviously put a lot of time/effort into these projects, so might as well help out a fellow member...

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Damnit I post as quickly as I can but Xephyr somehow posts before me. > That's what I get w/ a damn 56k lol...

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I'd get his but I gotta get it locally and install it myself. Cause my parents for one reason or another will go nuts if they find out. So I can get an AEM locally and with cash and install it myself on the weekend other wise I'd get his or make my own.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by [DWI]:
I'd get his but I gotta get it locally and install it myself. Cause my parents for one reason or another will go nuts if they find out. So I can get an AEM locally and with cash and install it myself on the weekend other wise I'd get his or make my own.</font>
Idea : Have it shipped to a FRIENDS house, go to his house for the weekend, and install it then. Not too hard, eh? My parents were initially against it at first, but eventually they relented when I said I'd use my own money to buy the darn thing.




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Everyone (DWI/BlackCL):

This install is very easy and even people without any mechanical inclination will be able to install it in under 1.5 hours. This is allowing 1 hour to remove your factory intake assembly. The installation of the Xephyr Performance CAI after removal of stock intake will take no more then 15 minutes.... My installation FAQ does NOT require removal of the bumper as other installation do. You will remove a total of four 10mm bolts, and 4 plastic fasteners. There are four plastic clips under the front driver side splash guard (under the car). Two 10mm bolts under the hood that are easy to reach, and two under the car after the four plastic clip fasteners are removed in a slightly more difficult location to reach. However, the installation FAQ lists step-by-step instructions and photo's of where ALL of the bolts are. Realistically the entire process can be done in under 30 minutes if you read the installation FAQ prior to the install. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A PROFESSIONAL INSTALL. This is a 100% NON-INVASIVE & NON_DESTRUCTIVE process. It can be reversed at any time for service in under 30 minutes once you are familiar with the car. Also the Xephyr Performance CAI can be switched to a Short-Ram setup in less time via the quick release clamps (No bolts to remove, just four plastic fasteners). More information will be published (Install instructions & installation process online on Monday 1/29/01 at www.XephyrPerformance.com/Installation.htm

Hope this helps shed some light on the process!

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I already ordered my Xephyr CAI!!!

I am sick of AEM bull$hit. 3 months...yeah for like the past 10 months what the hell is that crap!

Like scalbert said, all he had to do what cut some pipe, how hard is that for them to figure out?!?!?!

So screw them and everybody support a fellow member who is dedicated to our happiness and is results driven. Xephyr - here is a shout out to you for producing a quality product and supporting us. Good luck and I look forward to getting my CAI!


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by avengerjr:
I already ordered my Xephyr CAI!!!

I am sick of AEM bull$hit. 3 months...yeah for like the past 10 months what the hell is that crap!

So screw them and everybody support a fellow member who is dedicated to our happiness and is results driven. Xephyr - here is a shout out to you for producing a quality product and supporting us. Good luck and I look forward to getting my CAI!


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Yeah, that'll show AEM for making us wait a gazillion years for them to make a damn pipe.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Iridium130:
Yeah, that'll show AEM for making us wait a gazillion years for them to make a damn pipe.

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My thoughts exactly


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What are the benrfits of CAI over Ram air? Sorry I'm new to these improvements.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Iridium130:
Idea : Have it shipped to a FRIENDS house, go to his house for the weekend, and install it then. Not too hard, eh? My parents were initially against it at first, but eventually they relented when I said I'd use my own money to buy the darn thing.


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And how do I pay for it? It isn't like I have a CC laying around you know. If he was nearby I could run over and pick one up but cross country. Oh well I'll probibly end up installing it at a freinds.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by [DWI]:
And how do I pay for it? It isn't like I have a CC laying around you know. If he was nearby I could run over and pick one up but cross country. Oh well I'll probibly end up installing it at a freinds.</font>
Money order. Go to a local post office or bank and for a couple bucks they will make a money order for you. You can mail that to him via regular mail or certified mail and when he receives it, he could immediately ship out(money orders are just like cash, they dont need to be cleared like checks). Contact Xephyr, I'm sure you two can hammer something out...

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Good idea now all I have to do is find a friend who will take delivery of it. shouldn't be too hard.

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I've said it time and time again. Screw AEM.... you'll end up waiting 50 times longer than you should. My friend had to wait a year when he got his Civic Si... he finally got so ticked off that he got an Iceman instead. My bet is that Comptech makes either a CAI or a supercharger before AEM finishes their CAI.

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Dont forget about me Time To Market = Competetive Advantage LOL

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by [DWI]:
Good idea now all I have to do is find a friend who will take delivery of it. shouldn't be too hard.

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uhh...you weren't being sarcastic, right? It's hard to tell on the 'net...

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No no sarcasm there it is a good Idea only problem is I gotta find a freind who will take delivery and his parents won't care. Maybe I can get my cousin to do it he lives by himself. Thanks for the idea though

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