60' Times suck.. any techniques?? help??
11-06-2003, 07:41 AM
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60' Times suck.. any techniques?? help??
ran a 15.1 /w 2.56, brake torqued ~2k, SS
15.1 /w 2.48, brake torqued ~1200, gateshift
im on stock michelins. goin to the track again on friday. need some help. should i jus ease into the gas, until traction hits then floor it? or will i lose too much time off the start.
also, do ppl do burn outs /w the stock tires?? ive heard it both ways.
15.1 /w 2.48, brake torqued ~1200, gateshift
im on stock michelins. goin to the track again on friday. need some help. should i jus ease into the gas, until traction hits then floor it? or will i lose too much time off the start.
also, do ppl do burn outs /w the stock tires?? ive heard it both ways.
11-06-2003, 07:55 AM
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Burnouts are uesless with non-drag radial tires...
The trick is to feather it off the line... Pouring on the gas will spin the tires, ESPECIALLY the stockers. Be patient initially getting out of the hole.
The trick is to feather it off the line... Pouring on the gas will spin the tires, ESPECIALLY the stockers. Be patient initially getting out of the hole.
11-06-2003, 09:48 AM
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Yea, Commerce isn't know for anything close to consistant traction. But with those short times and what you launched at, are you sure you were getting wheel spin?? Or could you have been bogging the launch??
With the the essentially stock (performance wise) TL-S and with the front pressure dropped to about 25 PSI; you should be able to launch harder out of the hole. Try with VSA On and see if it flashes to confirm wheel spin.
BTW, I'm heading up there next week, the 14th, to try get some times in with my CL-S6SC before the track closes. You heading up then??
With the the essentially stock (performance wise) TL-S and with the front pressure dropped to about 25 PSI; you should be able to launch harder out of the hole. Try with VSA On and see if it flashes to confirm wheel spin.
BTW, I'm heading up there next week, the 14th, to try get some times in with my CL-S6SC before the track closes. You heading up then??
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11-06-2003, 10:13 AM
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scalbert: yea im sure i was gettin wheelspin, i could hear it and feel it (i started slidin sideways right before it gripped) that's why i thought i was havin TOO much wheelspin off the line. and im goin up there, tomorrow night (fri). prolly cant make it next weekend tho, but man would i luv to see ur 6sp SC in action. whew! i bet u suprise alot of ppl up there. what have u been runnin with ur setup?? low 13's?? i rarely see any modded TL/CLs in Atl.
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Maybe the track was extra greasy that night. 
I installed the blower last March but haven't made it to the track yet. I wanted to get some runs in with the basic blower set up before I add the other items I am working on.
I installed the blower last March but haven't made it to the track yet. I wanted to get some runs in with the basic blower set up before I add the other items I am working on.
11-06-2003, 05:48 PM
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Re: 60' Times suck.. any techniques?? help??
Originally posted by skim
also, do ppl do burn outs /w the stock tires?? ive heard it both ways.
also, do ppl do burn outs /w the stock tires?? ive heard it both ways.
11-06-2003, 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by skim
scalbert: yea im sure i was gettin wheelspin, i could hear it and feel it (i started slidin sideways right before it gripped) that's why i thought i was havin TOO much wheelspin off the line. and im goin up there, tomorrow night (fri). prolly cant make it next weekend tho, but man would i luv to see ur 6sp SC in action. whew! i bet u suprise alot of ppl up there. what have u been runnin with ur setup?? low 13's?? i rarely see any modded TL/CLs in Atl.
scalbert: yea im sure i was gettin wheelspin, i could hear it and feel it (i started slidin sideways right before it gripped) that's why i thought i was havin TOO much wheelspin off the line. and im goin up there, tomorrow night (fri). prolly cant make it next weekend tho, but man would i luv to see ur 6sp SC in action. whew! i bet u suprise alot of ppl up there. what have u been runnin with ur setup?? low 13's?? i rarely see any modded TL/CLs in Atl.
11-06-2003, 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by typeR
here's the deal...forget the light forget the race...just try leaving like you would at a light ,like you wanted to leave hard but w/o spin...you feed it throttle...dont floor it and dont ,TB....you wanna roll into it...alittle hit then a pause then feed it the rest
here's the deal...forget the light forget the race...just try leaving like you would at a light ,like you wanted to leave hard but w/o spin...you feed it throttle...dont floor it and dont ,TB....you wanna roll into it...alittle hit then a pause then feed it the rest
forget about R/T. but don't wait too long, you'll red light
11-07-2003, 09:19 PM
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rollin on stocks is hard at the track, drop em to 20-23 psi up front
if you can run 15.1 off those shitty 60' your car must be runnign pretty strong
what were the weather condiotions??
if you can run 15.1 off those shitty 60' your car must be runnign pretty strong
what were the weather condiotions??
11-07-2003, 09:36 PM
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I would say that the lowest you should go with the fronts is 28 psi. I tried going lower to help with spin & hop and it helped the launch a tiny bit, but it killed my mph. The only thing you can do is get lots of practice and see what works best for your car.
11-08-2003, 01:18 AM
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temps ~60degrees all night, cool, crisp air. so i thought id definately get into the 14's /w the intake. i think imma hold the gears a lil further too next time, maybe 7200rpms....
11-08-2003, 08:55 AM
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I usually run the fronts around 20-23, like Darrin said. My best is 2.20, and the last couple nights at the track have been mostly 2.2x, and 14.3 - 14.4, with a 14.2 thrown in. Stock tires, btw. I have DRs, now, but the track is closed, so I'll have to wait for next year.
11-08-2003, 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by skim
temps ~60degrees all night, cool, crisp air. so i thought id definately get into the 14's /w the intake. i think imma hold the gears a lil further too next time, maybe 7200rpms....
temps ~60degrees all night, cool, crisp air. so i thought id definately get into the 14's /w the intake. i think imma hold the gears a lil further too next time, maybe 7200rpms....
11-08-2003, 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by typeR
the shifts have to come the moment before fuel cut...if yi=ou are ever to get a good time,you'll have bumped the rev limiter alot in trying
the shifts have to come the moment before fuel cut...if yi=ou are ever to get a good time,you'll have bumped the rev limiter alot in trying
I smack the limiter more than I'd like, but...
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Originally posted by Bulldog01
I usually run the fronts around 20-23, like Darrin said. My best is 2.20, and the last couple nights at the track have been mostly 2.2x, and 14.3 - 14.4, with a 14.2 thrown in. Stock tires, btw. I have DRs, now, but the track is closed, so I'll have to wait for next year.
I usually run the fronts around 20-23, like Darrin said. My best is 2.20, and the last couple nights at the track have been mostly 2.2x, and 14.3 - 14.4, with a 14.2 thrown in. Stock tires, btw. I have DRs, now, but the track is closed, so I'll have to wait for next year.
11-08-2003, 02:42 PM
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i wanna see how much the auto benefits from dr's
i wanna see how much the auto benefits from dr's
11-08-2003, 02:56 PM
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i predict both of our cars get new transmissions in '04.
11-09-2003, 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by typeR
well stick around kiddies ,im working on something where i just may have a set of SSR comps..my 555R's will go back on along with the UR pulley and just maybe the uni chip just in time for some cold weather testing....i predict 13.4 at 104 with a 1.9 60'
well stick around kiddies ,im working on something where i just may have a set of SSR comps..my 555R's will go back on along with the UR pulley and just maybe the uni chip just in time for some cold weather testing....i predict 13.4 at 104 with a 1.9 60'
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