350z vs CL-S ?? does the cl stand a chance?

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:11 PM
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I also think these VS threads are whack cause everyone is getting things confused. Track is track street is street. You can not compare what 1 CLS does to 1 car it's racing when it's tracked prepped. You can't use slicks on the streets.
It's not a far comparison.
Get your car done race the Z street to street then post the results. I'll still say the Z will win.
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I can barely outhustle a 6spd Altima Sedan (07) driven by someone of equal skill (though I havent tried since my recent upgrades). That VQ rendition is FF with 260 poniies.

Equal skill vs equal skill behind the wheel:

350z clutch vs CL-P = greusome slaughter
350z auto vs CL-P = slaughter
350z clutch vs CL-S auto = slaughter
350z auto vs CL-S auto = slaughter
350 auto vs CL-S clutch = might have a chance
350z clutch vs CL-S clutch = 350 by a length or two
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2 weeks and we'll have the "slaughter footage"
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Even if you win, congratulations, you now have bragging rights about beating an automatic(luls) HR with some amateur bolt ons and an inexperienced driver......In a straight line.











Apples to oranges my friend.
But hell, a win is a win I guess.

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dyno ricers are what we've been getting.
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nah, I doubt many of them have seen a dyno in person, nonetheless made proper use of one.

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Had an E36M3 come flying up on me in the fast lane today where I was cruising my 40 mile daily stretch of expressway at the normal 80mph. I started to get over to let him by when I saw him, but it wasn't quick enough and I heard him kick down to pass on the right. "Aw, hell no." I thought, and snicked it into fourth. I ran the open expressway up to 100 before I backed off, but he didnt clear the front bumper of my car. I dunno about running one from a dig, but it didnt have enough in the tank to overtake me at 80.
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I would have just let him go. No need to be doing 100 on public roads. I run into that all the time. I'm already going 20 over & some asshat decides I'm too slow & passes me on the right. F them. Let them crash or get arrested for reckless driving.
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Feeling froggy this morning or I would have done the same. Don't waste my time or roll the dice on buzzy cavaliers - just testing the throttle on a worthy adversary.

Speed limit is 75 through there, and at 6 in the morning it's wide open. Mr. Valentine 1 takes care of the rest.
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Onese1f : amateur driver or not it's auto... it takes a miracle to F that up. and I'm auto too.. so it's more relevant to my car.

And a 350z should beat a CL either way and i wanna do the opposite.

Don't be mad cause I can have fun going in a straight line beating ppl.

Cl aint a track car, is a boat, and is automatic; so what am i supposed to do. Have a race backwards?

P.S parts should b here according to tracking numbers this week.. race B next week, HOPEFULLY i can get a dyno in there!
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
I also think these VS threads are whack cause everyone is getting things confused. Track is track street is street. You can not compare what 1 CLS does to 1 car it's racing when it's tracked prepped. You can't use slicks on the streets.
It's not a far comparison.
Get your car done race the Z street to street then post the results. I'll still say the Z will win.
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Even if you win, congratulations, you now have bragging rights about beating an automatic(luls) HR with some amateur bolt ons and an inexperienced driver......In a straight line.











Apples to oranges my friend.
But hell, a win is a win I guess.
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
Onese1f : amateur driver or not it's auto... it takes a miracle to F that up. and I'm auto too.. so it's more relevant to my car.

And a 350z should beat a CL either way and i wanna do the opposite.

Don't be mad cause I can have fun going in a straight line beating ppl.

Cl aint a track car, is a boat, and is automatic; so what am i supposed to do. Have a race backwards?
You can still F an auto up. The only benchmark you're going to be able to set, is that with which you are comparing yourself to. The scenario you are setting up is like me competing in a horse race, against a thoroughbred race horse with a handicapped jockey. Savvy?

So you're trying to beat all 350z's? Or just this one? (See above)

I'm not mad at you for having fun in racing in a straight line, I drag every once in a while....with a drag worthy car, although the statement "I guess you just have to make due with what you have" doesn't quite work. I want to be an astronaut, I'll guess I'll just have to build a ship out of this box I have.

"Cl aint a track car, is a boat, and is automatic;" - I think you said it best.

Forgive me, not trying to sound like an ass (which I'm sure I am), I'm just trying to find the method to your madness. I would try to give some sound advice, but I'm trying not to have an aneurysm.

Good luck though, if you do decide to go through with it. Maybe race something else as a benchmark?
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well heres what i say to everyone ... yep i didnt have the average CL S but i beat lots o cars back then... bolt on 350s no match M3 E46 no match... i got some video of 3 G eclipse V6 withcustom turbo and rousch III with upgrade pulley and bolt ons ...i beat vetts im talking LS2 and SS camaros ... street and track the place where most of these cars lost is from a dig LS2 are faster than i was from a roll but i got out like a bitch and busted many an 8s dream of rice pudding for desert ... count to 5 as fast as u possible can ... ok ... that probablly took .7 to .8 tenths of a second ... thats how much faster the above mentioned car may be than this guys CL ... you know how easy it is to F up just alittle and it adds up to you counting to 5 as fast as u possibly can ? back in the day everyone told me who i couldnt beat ... and i beat them all ... im not saying i never lost thats not the point ... im saying all the cars that are supposed to be faster than mine was ... flroida is different than penn. 13.30 here might be be a 12.9 at engilsh town ...u can dyno race and speculate all you want ... but put 2 guys behind the wheel one car can be a full second slower and still win 3 out of 5 ... thats my story and im sticking to it
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I'm just talking about the scenario. The simple fact that I can beat that car and it being 07 is good enough to me. This car doesn't look fast nor do people give it credit and that allows people to underestimate you.

I like the 350z and it'd be jokes to beat a guy who you didn't know in the cl and he's thinking to himself wtf which is why I wanna beat it.

This thread was about whether or not I could beat a 350z period, regardless of equal mods.
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i beat 350z all day its the driver i dont care what the other person is pushing, i beat 350z all day g35 all day they're overrated. ill take one from a dig and ill take one rolling. if a 350z is beating you imo you cant drive because if you drop it into 4th rolling 80 then yea you cant drive it right. i drop it into 3rd going 80 and 2nd rolling 40 burning out.
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Shave 40lbs off your driveline and see what happens when you snick into 4th at 80.

The 7mph burst in 3rd gear isn't worth the shift time.
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Originally Posted by victorvu
i beat 350z all day its the driver i dont care what the other person is pushing, i beat 350z all day g35 all day they're overrated. ill take one from a dig and ill take one rolling. if a 350z is beating you imo you cant drive because if you drop it into 4th rolling 80 then yea you cant drive it right. i drop it into 3rd going 80 and 2nd rolling 40 burning out.
"I beat 350z all day its the driver i dont care what the other person is pushing, i beat 350z all day g35 all day they're overrated."


You just made my day.
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well then i guess the CL is underrated... funny how that works.. Over-rated on paper due to the S.A.E crap and supposedly we don't have 260hp to start with, yet the CL can keep up with other cars that (on paper) should on be able to merk it

WIERD stuff... i'll say
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"""""""""""""Originally Posted by victorvu
kills:
1) SSM CL-s auto
2) many 350z
3) many G35,
4) Srt4,
5) Srt8 300c,
6) g37,
7) srt8 jeep grand cherokee.
8) 1999 civic coupe jdm gs-r swapped
9) 1998 ek hatchback w/ itr swap.

loss: turbo'd eg coupe.

me=bonestock """"""""""""""""""""

Wow, your bonestock and your 260Hp car can beat 425Hp cars?
Ok, Were all idiots!
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This was taken out of the "List Your Kills" thread.

Carful who you listen too. There are a lot of people who think they have the fastest car in the world.

Some of these people are full of shit. The only way some of these cars are getting beat by CLS's or CL6's is BECAUSE THEY DID NOT KNOW YOU WERE RACING THEM. Like this guy, Vic, his cls is bone stock! Do you really think he beat all these cars in his list? Let him say what ever he wants. He is full of shit.



And don't forget all the CL-P's here that regularly beat 350Z's and G35's.



Just calling BS when I see it!!!!!!
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uh huh you call it bs but i call it i beat them. go ahead talk shit if u were there u would see. when you pull up next to me and i beat you by 6 cars you wont call it bs either. i dont see g35 and 350z running 1/4 under 14.3
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btw i put it into 3rd going 80 all the time and its still holding up and what my car has 167,000 miles and the tranny is still good. go ahead flame i got people on here that will vouch. oh btw i beat a 6speed cl-s with comptech headers and greddy exhaust with aem cold air by 3 cars tell me im wrong then.
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omg guys you really need to calm down i can say i beat g35 auto g35 6spd is like neck to neck. 350z is faster than g and its lighter and also it has 300hp+ engine in a 07 i belive so i think i dont have to say anything more. but thats still up to driver i know i drive stick good. but for 07 Z no way sorry guys even 6 speed lightly moded just no way.

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if CH46ESeaKnight thinks he knows his shit he doesnt know shit. come see me and ill teach you how to drive.
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
omg guys you really need to calm down i can say i beat g35 auto g35 6spd is like neck to neck. 350z is faster than g and its lighter and also it has 300hp+ engine in a 07 i belive so i think i dont have to say anything more. but thats still up to driver i know i drive stick good. but for 07 Z no way sorry guys even 6 speed lightly moded just no way.
LoL..........
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I own a A/T 02 CL-S with mods in my sig. My dad owns a A/T 2005 Touring 350z(287hp version).

I've Raced the Z before....I can tell you the Z is the faster car. The cars are pretty even, but the Z is faster. The Z wins from a dig, wins from a 30 punch, and easily wins from a 70 punch on the highway. The only race I won was the 50mph punch and I was only like a half car ahead. I won a race from a dig with only me in the CL-S and two of my friends in the 350z weighing in at 575lbs together....not very fair considering I weigh 145lbs

O...I also raced an 05 or similar G35 from a 50-100mph roll and also only beat it by a half car and thats from our best scenario.

I don't think you stand a chance with an 07 350Z. Don't even think about a 370z...ever lol

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Sigh....

I believe you Victor.





I was going to wait to tell everyone this, but I beat a Bugatti Veyron yesterday in my CL.
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yesterday i beat blue prius on the highway from 40mph roll
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tru well I plan on beating that 350z, n/a b4 he sells the thing cause he's a broke mothaaa. lol but he's asking too much$ so i'll have about a yr to get fully bolted, with ecu upgrade/tune...

so i gotta get my mods asap...


Funny how I asked a simple ? and everyone went apeshit over it. But still I think I'll fine a way to beat him... not by a bumper. Thats a tie in my mind cause it's so close who gives a crap. I'm talking about a car length minimum.
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Two weeks ago I lined up with a Porsche at a light. I took off and beat him to the next light.



Ok, he was parked.
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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight
"""""""""""""Originally Posted by victorvu
kills:
1) SSM CL-s auto
2) many 350z
3) many G35,
4) Srt4,
5) Srt8 300c,
6) g37,
7) srt8 jeep grand cherokee.
8) 1999 civic coupe jdm gs-r swapped
9) 1998 ek hatchback w/ itr swap.

loss: turbo'd eg coupe.

me=bonestock """"""""""""""""""""
....... sorry......

Please tell me that this was meant to be a joke VIC.
Honestly if your car could beat all of those then the CLS doesnt even need mods. Im finding it VERY hard to believe what was posted
Originally Posted by Onese1f
Sigh....

I believe you Victor.





I was going to wait to tell everyone this, but I beat a Bugatti Veyron yesterday in my CL.
Me too
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yesterday i beat blue prius on the highway from 40mph roll
HOw?!?!?! last time i tried against a Prius it beat me by at least 5 car lengths. Then we came to a light, i pulled next to it and the old lady driving it laughed
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srt8 300c and jeep???? 450 hp now that sounds a lil fishy you beat them. Were they racing you in reverse? cause then you MAY have a chance. Those cars are monsters!


edging out a 350z i can see. g35 yes, MAYBE g37 MAYBE, but an SRT-4 is frigggin QUICK, and so is EVERY other SRT model.

Matter of fact I'd like to see our cars beat any SRT model.

I'd say the SRT caliber is the ONLY chance a CL would have.

Anthracite you either have a MUTANT CL or you've been dreaming too much. SRT 300 can run 13s even if it is pulling a trailer LOL.

Not that I'm trying to B rude, it just, I nor anyone else can see you merking allll those different whips.

ANd this tread was about me beating a 350z with like 2 mods...and I mean beat it by like a car length... nothing crazy. And even that is a question.

But hey if you aint lying or dreaming, props to you. You car is mental
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
Anthracite you either have a MUTANT CL or you've been dreaming too much. SRT 300 can run 13s even if it is pulling a trailer LOL.

Not that I'm trying to B rude, it just, I nor anyone else can see you merking allll those different whips.
Are you talking to me?
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wrong name... i didn't look to see u quoted Victorvu

that's who is was meant 4, my bad
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Let me step in and add my 55 cent. You couldn't beat a A\T skyline 350 in a 1\4 mile run, even if you had a CLS-6. Look at the numbers and do your research be for you post something like this LOL....
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Is this guy funny or what....
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^^^^^ LOL... better pick one up....
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