MDX-S

I'm a bit new hear gang, well officially that is......I'm one of the guys who is working with Doug behind the scenes to produce the products you want so badly. Although Doug will talk with Tim regarding the official marketing of this offer...I will tell you the proposal and if your interested, tell Tim:

$2500.00 buys you:

NEW race-prepped short block assembly displacing ~3.5L.
10.85:1 compression High Performance Pistons.
Weight matched rods with radiused crank journal oil ports.
Modified (volume enhanced) oil pump.
Full upper end gasket set (FR/RR heads and plenum)

Above listed components are completely assembled and packaged for drop shipment to you/installer for your -S heads to be bolted on, headers, and installation into your ride. The shipped product includes a 12 month unlimited mileaage warranty and you keep your removed block if any issues (resale, vin#, lease rtn) arise....there are no core charges as all parts are new. This warranty is a no questions asked (for the first one) NEW replacement assembly and does not include labor or additional damage.

With some quality head to intake port matching/cleaning and some minor exhaust port work, this package will produce upto the original 315HP of Doug's GEN I 3.5L cars. Doug is considering the release of the GEN II's exclusive cylinder heads on an exhange basis (cost control) for those of you seeking even more HP.

This offer is being made to dispell the myth's of price gouging for the original 3.5L variants and is a project for only quality technicians (not normally found in your buddies garage). Package includes ECU learn / break-in proceedures.

Our current project car is a RES (mule) equipped 3.5L 6-speeder with MMII on board......and hopefully a jackshaft driven vortech supercharger to huff up the top end in the near future. Hell, I gotta have fun to ya know

typeR

sounds good to me...but let me be the first ask...mdx-S sounds like you are doug....you dont have to be shy here....we're ready to have you back on board...

MDX-S

Not Doug, but he's not to far from me, as a mater of fact I can see him "playing" with a CAD 3D model in his office (another late night)....he does no what I'm doing, however, not quite word for word though.

typeR

well this is really inticing to me....Ive dreamed of up grading to the 3.5 since doug first mentioned it to us a year or more ago...then it seemed just out of range price wise for me...but as i have a close friend with a paint and body shop...that loves to work on engines in his spare time(he's currently dropping in and auto tranny into an 80's camaro that was a manual...see he's not shy when it comes to this type of work...the long winded version of this may very well make this affordable for me...now add RES and MMII for 500$ more and im in like flyn
tell doug Steve said hi...and would you ask him or can you answer ...can the LSD from the '03 6mt be fitted into the auto '01 typeS????? while im at it wouldnt a higher stall convertor be of big benefit here as well????

JRock

300/260 on the dyno??

If not, what does it dyno?

What does it dyno with aftermarket CAI, headers, and the RES?

Sounds like potential to be quite powerful if it's 300/260 without CAI, headers, RES.

typeR

last question...do either of you have any comment on a light weight 0 balance non TVD or harmoincally balanced crank pulley...UR as seen in my sig...i ve had it for a month or so and my engine feels smoother than ever...might there be any concern...this was a 9 page disscussion last month...

Zapata

Doug, MysteryMan....

jts1207

probably a stupid question but will this work with the s/c

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Forget about the 3.5 Upgrade, let us talk RES and MM#2, Let us get those being shipped first!
Thanks.

ItalianStallion

so am i readin correctly? the 3.5L upgrade for $2500? and this would put out 300hp/260trq, at the crank or on the wheels? this sounds REALLY freakin cool. tell me more!

Ashburner

What the hell is going on here? Are the horsepower gods yanking our chains???

-Ash

danny25

I wonder if our auto tranny can take that much power.

AcuraTLSFan

I live in Cali, this seems to be a real eye catcher! for $2500! This seems really worth it. Do you know how much it would be to ship this across the US (estimite)? And i'm not an expert mechanic or anything, but how much would it cost to install this thing?

Jeff914

thats a good point, will the stock auto transmission be able to handle the increase in power?

Red Rider

So many good questions, how about some answers. Would it make CARB cert ?

acuraboy_RENAMED

are u serious!!!!

that's an f#%^ing awesome deal. you can't even touch a used 3.5 from a salvage MDX for less than 2Gs. oohh ohh ohhh...i want one. shshwheeeet

EricL

AS IS -- NO!

You have to ask the "guys" -- Doug and friends, but he said the "original" engine mods were NOT going to be CARB'd due to cost issues.

You could try finding someone who did the mods and hitting a "smog pre-check" (not to be confused with a smog test station) to see if the "guys" who looked over the car would:

1. Get clean enough numbers to pass it.
2. Pass a "visual inspection".

I don't see why it wouldn't pass #2 -- although they were crawling all over my wife's 95 Altima (it passed with near 0 numbers for all emission outputs [HC/NO/CO]), but the guy was crawling all under and over the engine looking for any "funny" looking parts and mods. The test sheet is more ridiculous than ever (I’m surprised he didn’t pull out some light fiber scope to start hunting around in the sparkplug holes and dipstick…

(What the heck is wrong with just meeting the emissions... This is one of the most retarded operations going... If you brought in a engine that blew all zeros, but had a part they could clearly see that didn't belong, it would be "a problem"... Other states just want to know that the gas numbers on the dyno are ok...

(Hey, how about just setting the standards and not saying how to do it....)

Chief F1 Fan

There's quite a few of us here who would say our STOCK engines produce too much power for the autostick as evidenced by the daily questions of how to get my tranny fixed, it just puked.

Dom418

Sounds Cool.. but one dumb question.

Does the package include the Headers??? (I doubt it does) If so what would be the price w/o the headers.

Thanks.

Dom

RaptorCLS

sounds like kewl stuff....but with cali being all anal about the smog crap.....not sure if i should get it.dammit..hmm...maybe I can bribe a smog tech..hahaha

AcuraTLSFan

U can bribe them aslong as you know them...but now Cali is doing that stupid random test center smog check...so their isn't an easy way around those money blood sucking govn't mother FU$kers!

Mike

This sounds really cool, but alas, I live in Cali.

Doug, you'll need to develop some traction bars for our cars!!!

cnatra

If I had a 6spd I would definitley be planning on the 3.5L BUT
I doubt the slushbox could handle the HP.

Red Rider

The original guy who did the 3.5 had an auto and drove it hard with no problems if i recall.

H@mmerm@n

:sqnteek:

scalbert

Hrmmm, maybe that $2k I saved by not getting the Nav can get immediately applied!!!! Or do I just wait for the blower...

ItalianStallion

now i guess the question is, do i want speed? or looks?
3.5L Upgrade
or
Chromies.
Decisions decisions.

Zapata

3.5L!!!!!! Get the blower later. Since the parts of the 3.5 kit will be stronger you'll want to add the SC to that instead of the stock parts

Davediego

any chance of fitting this to a 99TL?

scalbert

heheh, maybe...

But the issue here is the installation. I can install the blower myself fairly easily in an afternoon. But the 3.5L would require the engine to be pulled, heads swapped, etc. I don't know if I want to tackle this and have the car down for days if not a week. So I would probably have someone do it which would tack on about $1500 more. Now we are nearing the price of the blower.

For just about the same amount between the blower the 3.5L upgrade you will get more power from the blower, two to three times as much. Now it would be nice to do both, but I don't see myself spending that much on this car.

Zapata

True but if you ever decide to do the 3.5 coversion it'd be better to have it done first rather than the blower since you'd have to disassemble the blower kit. You are correct.....blower will give you everything the 3.5 will give I'd just love to show those GTP boys what a REAL engine will do when blown >;] SHit you're talking 340hp 300 ft lbs/trq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then you could ride on with plates that say:

v8kller
smlblk
m3kllr

MDX-S

If you read the post carefully, the kit does not include headers or CAI. The HP/TQ figures assume these basic add-ons.

These power measurements are "crank based" with Dyno readings in the 235-240 range, or about 10 less than the 3.5L Gen I motors produced. This package is designed around bang for the buck and is more torque oriented than peak power, and your 3800+ Lb sleds need the torque much more than the peak
H-power! Torque will show about 205-210 lb/ft (dyno) from 3000-5500 RPM.

If you want a blower, then opt for the 9.6-10.0:1 range piston choices. Aluminum Rods are available if your wallet can squeeze out $1200.00 additional (good for ~30lbs of boost pressure) and forged aluminum slugs (9.0:1) with anti-det architecture will set you back another $750

The moral is, assess what you want, weigh it against what you can afford, and buy accordingly. We want to give you a bear bones torque monster that is FUN to drive at a good price. Comptechs S/C is a twin-screw or similar and boost will not be on hand at throttle tip-in. In the racing world, we say there's no mistakin displacement! "IF" the S/C produces more peak HP on your cars it will have to chase down the 3.5 at the top end and I doubt that will be before the 80MPH range.

Hope this helps

ItalianStallion

SFLA
miami right?
if i were to get this how much would install cost? and would the dealer be an option for install? seeing as it is acura parts this doesnt violate my 4yr 100,000mi warrenty does it?

scalbert

I do agree with the concept of this upgrade and it is certainly something I am considering. It is very compelling and one that allows you a complete sleeper!!!

But I do want to comment on the use of the Eaton Gen IV blower. Having hand ported an M90 blower before, installed an S-Ported unit, swapped countless pulleys on them and have worked on test systems at the manufacturing plant in Athens, GA. I do feel I know something about them.

Boost is realized immediately in these designed blowers particularly with the integral bypass valve. This allows for essentially displacement on demand. As soon as the throttle is opened boost is realized as quickly as the standard throttle response. This also allows for basically the same boost throughout the rev band simply raising the torque curve just as the 3.5L upgrade would.

But as mentioned, the 3.5L upgrade is silent and hidden adding an additional appeal to it.

astro

I'll paypal you next week.

I want two sets of pistons...one high, and one low compression.
how much? when is it ready?

ItalianStallion

astro never stops upgrading.
when you thought a 3.2 TLS with countless pimp points was enough, he needs a 3.5 TLS. you never cease to amaze me.

upon upgrading i think it would be appropriate to take off the 3.2 and replace it with a 3.5 from RL. thatd be phat ass.

YuppieCL

sound interesting...
i'll take 4 for $1390 :P
i dunno if its worth it... any word on the quarter mile.

CLpower

Yes, i too would be interested in a set of pistons and rods how soon will they be ready to ship?

typeR

MDX-S...he's serious just so you know...the guy has about 40K in sight and sound in his TL-S...astro dont play....

MDX-S

TALK TO TIM, WE SELL THROUGH HIM!!!