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Old 08-23-2001, 08:08 PM
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15k service - cure for what ailed my CL

Just picked it up from the dealer after having the 15k service and my opinion....they must have switched cars on me.

Whoever said the 15k service was just an oil change is mistaken. It now feels as tight and smooth as the day I first drove it off the lot. It's amazing what having no rattles does to your perception of a car. Everything is perfect about the car now.

Sunroof rattle...gone
Brake shudder...gone
erratic shifting...gone
funny idle like it's going to die...gone

Just the slightest touch of the gas will throw you back in the seat, and this is below 2nd stage induction and VTEC. The brakes feel so much stronger and smooth.

If you're getting near the service interval and wonder if you should do it, pony up the bucks. It was worth it to me!
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Davo - what's listed on the service invoice, besides what you listed. Just curious....

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Old 08-23-2001, 08:10 PM
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How much is the 15K?? I'm at 14500 right now.. I'm about ready for it soon..

I don't have the manual in front of me.. what's included in the 15K service??
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I told you so ! I am a firm believer that cars these days should be serviced by the dealership, especially during warranty ! I too felt as though I had a brand spanking new car, tight, no shudder, smooth, like new ! :p
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For us California folks, I think it's in the neighborhood of $175.00, but I could be wrong.....
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I have the list of everything that's done at each service interval, at home. I'll jot it down tonight and let you fella's know.
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Originally posted by mackdaddy:
<STRONG>Davo - what's listed on the service invoice, besides what you listed. Just curious....

Jim</STRONG>
Besides oil & filter under parts they added KREX oil additive and KREX fuel additive. To fix the sunroof, they installed "Honda squeak reduction tape" per TSB 00-032.

2nd page...Maintenance performed-
Overall visual inspection
Lubed all hinges, locks, and latches
Rotate & balanced tires (they did a cross F-R rotation this time)
Adjust parking brake
Inspected brake lines, pads, rotors, and calipers
Inspected front & rear suspension
Inspected inner & outer C.V. boots
Inspected exhaust system
Adjusted accessory belt
Performed Acura vehicle campaigns
Final inspection during road test
Washed and vacuumed vehicle
(other misc. checks not worth mentioning)

The bottom line with tax was $177.19 which is a deal to me if it makes me happy with my car again.
Old 08-23-2001, 08:24 PM
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Are you guys sure it isn't because you just got out of the Crappy Integra Loaner they gave you. Every time I would take my Legend in I would notice that it felt tighter and quieter than when I dropped it off. Even when I only had an oil change!
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They gave me a new RL loaner.
Old 08-23-2001, 08:26 PM
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Good deal!

I think my 15k service helped my tranny a bit. It became a tad smoother. I'm coming up on the 30k service and I'm looking forward to it. I have a slight tick in the engine that I think will go away with a valve adjustment. Plus there's lots of other stuff done at that service. I need to start shopping around for a good Honda/Acura independant in Phoenix so I don't have to go to Tucson for this service!
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Originally posted by Jake:
<STRONG>Are you guys sure it isn't because you just got out of the Crappy Integra Loaner they gave you. </STRONG>
Positive! With all the day to day stuff I was putting up with, I could tell a huge difference. It wasn't just mental, and the 2001 Integra they gave me was loaded and really nice.
Old 08-23-2001, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Fabvsix:
<STRONG>For us California folks, I think it's in the neighborhood of $175.00, but I could be wrong.....</STRONG>

i'm in CA and mine is free it's cuz i bought that stoopid thing where you get all your normal maintenece free for one year/15k

so i havent paid a dime yet and i'm almost at the end of my free stuff. i'm at 13k so i'm looking forward to the 15k soon.
Old 08-23-2001, 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by davo-cls:
<STRONG>

Besides oil & filter under parts they added KREX oil additive and KREX fuel additive. To fix the sunroof, they installed "Honda squeak reduction tape" per TSB 00-032.

2nd page...Maintenance performed-
Overall visual inspection
Lubed all hinges, locks, and latches
Rotate & balanced tires (they did a cross F-R rotation this time)
Adjust parking brake
Inspected brake lines, pads, rotors, and calipers
Inspected front & rear suspension
Inspected inner & outer C.V. boots
Inspected exhaust system
Adjusted accessory belt
Performed Acura vehicle campaigns
Final inspection during road test
Washed and vacuumed vehicle
(other misc. checks not worth mentioning)

The bottom line with tax was $177.19 which is a deal to me if it makes me happy with my car again.</STRONG>
Not to cause any trouble, but all the rattles/squeaks should be fixed free anyway. As far as lubing the vehicle, the dealerships should do that for free as well (at least mine does). Plus, each time I bring it in for an oil change they always do the inspection of CV boots, exhaust, etc... That only takes a few minutes...

Moral of the story, you really don't need to pay the $175 for 15k service. But hell, if you got the money, it can't hurt. I just bought a $2,000 kangaroo leather motorcycle racing suit and I am gonna spend another $1000 on tires tomorrow, so I have to be a little tighter with my money and can't blow $200 on a service from the dealer that provides perceived peace of mind...
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I don't see anything in the list of things they did to your car that is:
1) Worth $175.00
2) Cause your car to be stronger
3) Cause your tranny to work better
Are you sure they didn't give you some wacky weed?
PS - my 30K service was $141.00 and that included tranny fluid replacement. I think that was high also, but since I did 15K and 22.5K myself (less tire rotation) I sprung for it (my overpriced piece of mind).

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Old 08-23-2001, 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Technique:

Not to cause any trouble, but all the rattles/squeaks should be fixed free anyway.

It was fixed under warranty and didn't cost me anything. I delayed making a special trip to the dealer until my service was due.

Plus, each time I bring it in for an oil change they always do the inspection of CV boots, exhaust, etc... That only takes a few minutes...

Sure, it's just a quick visual while it's up on the rack. The 15k checklist had 38 items on it. More than just a quick look while up there. 3 hours in fact.

Moral of the story, you really don't need to pay the $175 for 15k service. But hell, if you got the money, it can't hurt.
Maybe, but if one of those more extensive checks fixed something, or prevented me from having to make a special trip to the dealer then it was worth it. I'm not going to bitch and whine about spending $30k on a car and then can't justify a yearly $150 service. A regular oil change and tire rotation usually runs about $65. The rest is just labor cost for the inspections. No "perceived" piece of mind here. I'm quite sure how much better the car is after this service. I didn't have to make one trip for the brakes, one for the transmission, one for the sunroof, etc. and maybe it will save me a future unexpected trip. It's called preventive maintenance, it not it'd be called faith or luck.
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i am going to have my 15k service done next tuesday..and i really want the transmission fluid changed...and they will do that too..
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Originally posted by Technique:
<STRONG>

Not to cause any trouble, but all the rattles/squeaks should be fixed free anyway. As far as lubing the vehicle, the dealerships should do that for free as well (at least mine does). Plus, each time I bring it in for an oil change they always do the inspection of CV boots, exhaust, etc... That only takes a few minutes...

Moral of the story, you really don't need to pay the $175 for 15k service. But hell, if you got the money, it can't hurt. I just bought a $2,000 kangaroo leather motorcycle racing suit and I am gonna spend another $1000 on tires tomorrow, so I have to be a little tighter with my money and can't blow $200 on a service from the dealer that provides perceived peace of mind...</STRONG>
WTF kangaroo leather?! Thats disgusting man!!!
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Originally posted by Iridium130:
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WTF kangaroo leather?! Thats disgusting man!!!</STRONG>
And cow leather isn't? Its all treated animal skin. Kangaroos aren't exactly endangered.
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Next best thing to POSSUM leather...that's what that is !

Originally posted by Iridium130:
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WTF kangaroo leather?! Thats disgusting man!!!</STRONG>
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Originally posted by Iridium130:
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WTF kangaroo leather?! Thats disgusting man!!!</STRONG>
HAHAHA. Shit, I didn't mean to start some sort of animal debate. Kangaroo leather is the lightest and strongest leather. The racers use it. Anyway, my apologizes go out to the little 'roos down under, but they are gonna save my ass if I fall. :-)
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Originally posted by davo-cls:
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Besides oil & filter under parts they added KREX oil additive and KREX fuel additive. </STRONG>...snip...snip
Hey thanks I was wondering what those additives were. Krex(?), does anybody have any info on these items?

Car runs smooth but it always has. For the record my bill came to $200@ ParkAvenue. This did include tranny fluid though.
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I too just had my 15k service done. Would have only been about $180, except I had them do a 4-wheel alignment [$89].

The actual cost of 15k maint. stuff was $75, seems kinda of high for routine inspections during a oil-chg. tire-rotation etc.

P.S. I had vibrations on my front wheels & had to get the rotors turned [under warranty].

The maint. seem to help keep things tighter, but should there be things coming loose at only 15k??

Just my thoughts, [never had much to say before now].

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Old 08-24-2001, 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Al Uminum:
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Hey thanks I was wondering what those additives were. Krex(?), does anybody have any info on these items?

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I did a word search on KREX and found out that Infiniti and Lexus dealers also use KREX products. The stuff for the engine oil is called Graphite and is supposed to be a super lubricant. They have the fuel system cleaner, and also a transmission lubricant. It must be good for higher quality dealerships to use/recommend it.
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15,000 mile service at motorworld (includes transmission service) 101.00 including tax
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