'03 CL-S 6MT vs. '05 350Z Automatic
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'03 CL-S 6MT vs. '05 350Z Automatic
A buddy of mine picked up a 2005 brickyard red 350Z, automatic, that came with the factory upgraded performance exhaust. We kept joking about racing and eventually today we were driving home and we decided to race a few times from a roll. I wasn't going to race him from a dig because he's got the automatic, so not really fair.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
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Originally Posted by M.J.H.
A buddy of mine picked up a 2005 brickyard red 350Z, automatic, that came with the factory upgraded performance exhaust. We kept joking about racing and eventually today we were driving home and we decided to race a few times from a roll. I wasn't going to race him from a dig because he's got the automatic, so not really fair.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
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Originally Posted by crippler22
Why were you affraid to race him from a dig? A manual tranny is an advantage in most all driving situations. Especially drag racing unless you are bracket racing or you suck. Good kill I like seeing the look on 350Z drivers faces after they been owned by the SS.
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Originally Posted by M.J.H.
A buddy of mine picked up a 2005 brickyard red 350Z, automatic, that came with the factory upgraded performance exhaust. We kept joking about racing and eventually today we were driving home and we decided to race a few times from a roll. I wasn't going to race him from a dig because he's got the automatic, so not really fair.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
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Originally Posted by crippler22
Why were you affraid to race him from a dig? A manual tranny is an advantage in most all driving situations. Especially drag racing unless you are bracket racing or you suck. Good kill I like seeing the look on 350Z drivers faces after they been owned by the SS.
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Originally Posted by Oakroadsteve
The 350 would have taken you out of the hole by at least a car. I have some experience with these cars and they are very strong from a dig. It is after 20 mph or so where the Cl's have the advantage
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Originally Posted by M.J.H.
A buddy of mine picked up a 2005 brickyard red 350Z, automatic, that came with the factory upgraded performance exhaust. We kept joking about racing and eventually today we were driving home and we decided to race a few times from a roll. I wasn't going to race him from a dig because he's got the automatic, so not really fair.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
Three times from a roll I was about a 1/2 car in front of him! I was impressed, he didn't believe my CL-S was STOCK, lol. First gear we started about 15-20 MPH and I started with my revs right around 4-5K and just punched it and chirped 2nd. Then from around 30 MPH I dropped it into 2nd and pulled on him again.
AEM intake with K&N swapped in filter going on in the next week.
I understood him saying it would not be fair to the auto out the dig. Making it more fair for both hey did rolling start.
Thats a great kill, I have hit a 350 around here, its great because they think that car is so fast, get all pissed
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Originally Posted by crippler22
I have some experience with them as well. My experience is every one I race I beat by 2 cars. Except for the auto I beat it by 2 1/2. They are great roadcourse cars but in a drag race they are only average.
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Originally Posted by crippler22
I have some experience with them as well. My experience is every one I race I beat by 2 cars. Except for the auto I beat it by 2 1/2. They are great roadcourse cars but in a drag race they are only average.
I back up my statement and experiences with the C&D, MT, R&T road tests that show the 350Z to be a 14.0 Quarter mile car. Don't the Cl's run 14.9 to 14.5.
If you have some good bolt on's than I understand your dominance over the Z's.
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Originally Posted by Oakroadsteve
You beat them from a dig??
I back up my statement and experiences with the C&D, MT, R&T road tests that show the 350Z to be a 14.0 Quarter mile car. Don't the Cl's run 14.9 to 14.5.
If you have some good bolt on's than I understand your dominance over the Z's.
I back up my statement and experiences with the C&D, MT, R&T road tests that show the 350Z to be a 14.0 Quarter mile car. Don't the Cl's run 14.9 to 14.5.
If you have some good bolt on's than I understand your dominance over the Z's.
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Originally Posted by crippler22
You are right but I don't have a CL-S I drive an Impala SS with a LS4 V-8. Which using the those magazine road tests would put the SS and 350Z about even. That makes it a drivers race, and those magazine times are conservative with the SS. Average times I have seen by owners are 13.9 in the 1/4. Refer to LS1tech.com. I have beat every 350Z right out of the hole at launch. Torque is a wonderful thing when you learn how to use it.
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Originally Posted by Oakroadsteve
You beat them from a dig??
I back up my statement and experiences with the C&D, MT, R&T road tests that show the 350Z to be a 14.0 Quarter mile car. Don't the Cl's run 14.9 to 14.5.
If you have some good bolt on's than I understand your dominance over the Z's.
I back up my statement and experiences with the C&D, MT, R&T road tests that show the 350Z to be a 14.0 Quarter mile car. Don't the Cl's run 14.9 to 14.5.
If you have some good bolt on's than I understand your dominance over the Z's.
All of the 1/4 mile times I have seen for the Z are high 14"S 14.9 thats the 6spd.
Stock CLS-6 14.3 stock.
Always wins, every Z I have raced, another point for team CLs-6
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Originally Posted by crippler22
Why were you affraid to race him from a dig? A manual tranny is an advantage in most all driving situations. Especially drag racing unless you are bracket racing or you suck. Good kill I like seeing the look on 350Z drivers faces after they been owned by the SS.
btw guys, crippler is cool so please lay off.
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Originally Posted by Jrezo
All of the 1/4 mile times I have seen for the Z are high 14"S 14.9 thats the 6spd.
Stock CLS-6 14.3 stock.
Always wins, every Z I have raced, another point for team CLs-6
Stock CLS-6 14.3 stock.
Always wins, every Z I have raced, another point for team CLs-6
Drive wheels? RWD > FWD.
HP/TQ? 260/232 < 287/274
WT? 35xx = 35xx
It looks to me, like driving skill being equal, a 350Z should smite a CLS, but that's just my logic.
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Originally Posted by 01clsstock
Is this sszine?
Ya, crippler is fine. Especially since he is from my stomping grounds. Us Pittsburgh people only have unbiased opinions, thats why everyone loves us. Especially when it comes to football, beer, and cars.
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Originally Posted by Benb18a
Are you sure you don't have that information backwards? All the results I have seen for Zs are in the 13.9-14.2 range. An auto CLS is supposed to run a 14.8, I HIGHLY doubt the 6 speed tranny will make up a half second. Let's compare.
Drive wheels? RWD > FWD.
HP/TQ? 260/232 < 287/274
WT? 35xx = 35xx
It looks to me, like driving skill being equal, a 350Z should smite a CLS, but that's just my logic.
Drive wheels? RWD > FWD.
HP/TQ? 260/232 < 287/274
WT? 35xx = 35xx
It looks to me, like driving skill being equal, a 350Z should smite a CLS, but that's just my logic.
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i am so smart S M R T
Originally Posted by pits200
Ya, crippler is fine. Especially since he is from my stomping grounds. Us Pittsburgh people only have unbiased opinions, thats why everyone loves us. Especially when it comes to football, beer, and cars.
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Originally Posted by Benb18a
Are you sure you don't have that information backwards? All the results I have seen for Zs are in the 13.9-14.2 range. An auto CLS is supposed to run a 14.8, I HIGHLY doubt the 6 speed tranny will make up a half second. Let's compare.
Drive wheels? RWD > FWD.
HP/TQ? 260/232 < 287/274
WT? 35xx = 35xx
It looks to me, like driving skill being equal, a 350Z should smite a CLS, but that's just my logic.
Drive wheels? RWD > FWD.
HP/TQ? 260/232 < 287/274
WT? 35xx = 35xx
It looks to me, like driving skill being equal, a 350Z should smite a CLS, but that's just my logic.
The times I have witnessed for the stock Z 6MT (VQ35DE not HR) is in the 13.8-14.2 range as well. My old 02 Maxima 4AT ran 14.7s consistently along with many other 3.5L Maximas and Altimas running similar times WITH auto trannies. There is NO WAY that a competent racer would only post a 14.8 sec ET with a 5AT Z or G35 let alone a 6MT.
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I agree my quote for the Z 6mt was a little slow. But there are guys talking about CLS-6 running 14 flat with just an intake. 6speed has a much better gear ratio and a 1/2 second quicker is not far fetched.
auto Z vs CLS-6
CLS-6. I am not suprised that he beat that Z in a run
and a G35 come on. I know there are some CL-s auto's that have smoked G35s. I have never ran on one but I know that they are slower then the Z.
auto Z vs CLS-6
CLS-6. I am not suprised that he beat that Z in a run
and a G35 come on. I know there are some CL-s auto's that have smoked G35s. I have never ran on one but I know that they are slower then the Z.
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Originally Posted by Jrezo
I agree my quote for the Z 6mt was a little slow. But there are guys talking about CLS-6 running 14 flat with just an intake. 6speed has a much better gear ratio and a 1/2 second quicker is not far fetched.
auto Z vs CLS-6
CLS-6. I am not suprised that he beat that Z in a run
and a G35 come on. I know there are some CL-s auto's that have smoked G35s. I have never ran on one but I know that they are slower then the Z.
auto Z vs CLS-6
CLS-6. I am not suprised that he beat that Z in a run
and a G35 come on. I know there are some CL-s auto's that have smoked G35s. I have never ran on one but I know that they are slower then the Z.
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"Nissans tend to be slower in real world times" (Spirit Quote)
Back to the Z and yes you agree that the G35 is slower and definatly if its auto.
Once again I am saying I am happy for his win and not suprised.
Not impressed with the Z, in my opinion LOL
Back to the Z and yes you agree that the G35 is slower and definatly if its auto.
Once again I am saying I am happy for his win and not suprised.
Not impressed with the Z, in my opinion LOL
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Originally Posted by Benb18a
Are you sure you don't have that information backwards? All the results I have seen for Zs are in the 13.9-14.2 range. An auto CLS is supposed to run a 14.8, I HIGHLY doubt the 6 speed tranny will make up a half second. Let's compare.
Drive wheels? RWD > FWD.
HP/TQ? 260/232 < 287/274
WT? 35xx = 35xx
It looks to me, like driving skill being equal, a 350Z should smite a CLS, but that's just my logic.
Drive wheels? RWD > FWD.
HP/TQ? 260/232 < 287/274
WT? 35xx = 35xx
It looks to me, like driving skill being equal, a 350Z should smite a CLS, but that's just my logic.
That is correct..check Car & Driver, Motor Trend and Road & Track. The range is 13.9 to 14.1 or 14.2. From the 30 mph on is where the CLs might have the ad.
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Does anybody have a dyno of a stock 350Z just for fun? I'm so confused. I would think a car with 290+ horsepower would be able to take ours. Does Nissian fib on their hp #'s?
Can someone lay it all out for me?
Can someone lay it all out for me?
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Originally Posted by Jrezo
I agree my quote for the Z 6mt was a little slow. But there are guys talking about CLS-6 running 14 flat with just an intake. 6speed has a much better gear ratio and a 1/2 second quicker is not far fetched.
auto Z vs CLS-6
CLS-6. I am not suprised that he beat that Z in a run
and a G35 come on. I know there are some CL-s auto's that have smoked G35s. I have never ran on one but I know that they are slower then the Z.
auto Z vs CLS-6
CLS-6. I am not suprised that he beat that Z in a run
and a G35 come on. I know there are some CL-s auto's that have smoked G35s. I have never ran on one but I know that they are slower then the Z.
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
Does anybody have a dyno of a stock 350Z just for fun? I'm so confused. I would think a car with 290+ horsepower would be able to take ours. Does Nissian fib on their hp #'s?
Can someone lay it all out for me?
Can someone lay it all out for me?
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