Maybe this will help...

 

Crap, what's with that whole bleed the coolant system step?

Why is this thing $245-$275?

 

good luck. but i was looking for someone with an automatic to do this

sidemarker

 

where did you read that?

 

In the .pdf installation instructions for the ice box installation: bleed the coolant system after the installation.

· Refill and bleed
coolant system as
specified in factory
manual.
· Recheck all connections.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CLSter
[B]Crap, what's with that whole bleed the coolant system step?

This my question as well. Do you have to do this and if so what is involved in bleeding the coolant system. Can someone please post directions.

 

re: dyno.... Comptech has been pretty accurate with their header dynos, so that would lead me to believe that the Icebox dynos should be accurate too. Once Slyraskal does his dyno we'll all have a better idea.

As for the coolant thing... not sure what that's about. Installing a CAI has nothing to do with coolants. You simply remove the stock lines and reconnect them... no bleeding involved.... I'll have to look into that.

 

If I recall correctly with the AEM, one of the hoses that you will most likely be playing with is a coolant hose (a small one, but nevertheless a coolant hose). Could this be why they mention the bleeding of the Coolant??

 

That's what I was thinking... but I did not bleed the coolant... I just disconnected the hose, then reconnected it to the CAI after I installed it.... no bleeding necessary....

 

the manual that death_angle provided shows exactly that - a small coolant hose that apparently is being replaced with one supplied by Comptech. what I don't understand is that nobody has yet to comment on the stated need to remove the front bumper? I thought this would have received some commentary from someone by now, since this is another one of those things that many say is unnecessary (access from under the fender liner if I recall). but yeah, does the replacement of the hose require more than just adding addit fluid?

 

once again, just like Y2K3CL-S stated, i think we have to remove the bumper and there is no way around it. if there is all the best of luck for you on an easy install without removing the bumper.

if something required me to remove the bumper and it makes the "overall" installation easier, why wouldn't you want to remove it. is it that hard to remove a few screws?

 

Ok, here's the answer for the "bleeding the coolant system"

I spoke with Nate over at Comptech and he mentioned what i had originally guessed, when replacing the coolant line with the line provided by comptech in the intake kit, there is a possibility of air being trapped in the system when you hook everything back up. and as we all know air in the coolant line doesn't do jack shyt, doesn't cool anything like the coolant does.

He said they recommend doing the bleed to ensure there aren't any air pockets but if you are ok with maybe having a few trapped pockets of air in your coolant system then don't worry about it.

 

Now here's a new question, I've never bled the coolant system on my CL-S, how do you do it and is there a factory recommended coolant to use?

 

did you get the ICE box?

 

It's either on the UPS truck on it's way to my house, or it's already there, but the tracking results said it's out for delivery so that's definetly a plus.

i just have to figure out how to bleed the coolant system and if there is a certain kind of coolant to use in the event i install it tonight.

 

do not drain a thing... just clamp the hose first, than no leaks... last time I did it... few drops were leaked that is it.. and no need to remove the bumper

 

Why would you have to remove the bumper on a CLS? You don't to install the AEM, & you have to remove the same parts. With the coolant line I removed for the AEM, only a very little bit( a few drops) came out of the hose. I see no reason to "bleed" the coolant system. I never heard of such a thing. Drain & flush I have.

Also any idea on when these will be shipping? I paid for mine Tuesday I think.

 

Is there an application for the 3.0 CL?

I know cldriver had one installed in his 1st gen when he had his S/C installed, but I can't remember if there were modifications that had to be made along with the mods to make the S/C fit.

 

JamzCL... I'm pretty sure there were mods that were made for it to fit. Heck.. that whole install was custom

Anyway, just an FYI, I talked to Comptech today, they are sold out across the board. Another batch should be shipping around Wed./Thursday of next week.

Thanks again all!!

 

I just ordered an IceBox
Will I receive confirmation over e-mail or something? Shipping late next week I presume...? Thanks!

 

Thanks for the order!! You should have received an email with confirmation as well as shipping information earlier this morning. Thanks again!!

 

So far I can see the only advantage of CT over AEM is the ease of cleaning the filter Other than that ALL CAI operate on the same princiiple of extracting cold, dense air. Frankly, there is no one make performs significantly better than the other, simlply because they use the same principle I can see that CT being new caused a lot of excitement for the currently non CAI owners. I remember AEM also generated a lot of attention when it was available. My suggestion is to compare the prices and ease of installation and maintenance before your purchase. New things don't make them better

 

Actually, from the one independant dyno we've seen, the Icebox gained 16hp and 16 ft lb. of torque peak where as the best AEM/Injen dyno we've seen has been 8hp and about 6-8 lbs. of torque. Now, it's only one dyno so far... and it was a very questionable one... so it's really in the eye of the beholder at this point.

All I know is that after reading Lou's topic I want to dump my Injen and get an Icebox!!

 

Where is this dyno? The only one I've seen is the Comptech one which I beleive also includes headers. Unless I've missed it, a dyno is what everybody has been waiting for since the late, great slyraskal started this crisis. pse advise.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by juniorbean
[B]Actually, from the one independant dyno we've seen, the Icebox gained 16hp and 16 ft lb. of torque peak where as the best AEM/Injen dyno we've seen has been 8hp and about 6-8 lbs. of torque. Now, it's only one dyno so far... and it was a very questionable one... so it's really in the eye of the beholder at this point.

I find that very hard to believe given the fact they (AEM,Injen,CT) all operate on the same principle. To have CT doubles the gain in both HP and torque over the other two is amazing to say the least. Like you said the one dyno is of very questionalbe nature. It's like comparing one make of headers with the others. Unless one has a technology breakthrough, all headers do not vary significantly in gains in HP and torque. The quality of the make is a separate topic. The same principle applies to CAI. Unless one make has a technology breakthrough, you are not going to see significant difference in gains. Let alone double the gain in this case with CT cai

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tdtsai
[B]Well the CAI has a filter at the end of the tube and a CAB is essentially a shortram with a an air inlet...it's somewhat different. Not to mention that the materials used in the construction is different also.

 

Well, we didn't actually see it.... just the words of it, which is why I said it was a very questionable one

tdtsai - As for the gains.... you're right.. it is the same principal... but there's obviously room for improvement as the AEM V2 seems to do.... however, since it's so new there is no version for the Type-S... so that remains to be seen.

Personally I like the Icebox b/c of the ease of cleaning the filter. While it's not the end of the world to remove the 3 bolts in front of the driver side wheel well to get to the AEM or Injen filter, it's a lot easier to open hood and clean it in there... especially if the gains are the same or similar. To each their own I guess. I'm still undecided about replacing the Injen mainly b/c it matches the car so well

 

Juniorbean,

Check your PM.

 

tks jb ... thought I'd missed something, but wasn't sure. In as much as you are selling these, is it that difficult for you do grab one and do an a/b comparo or are they all pre-spoken for based on the enthusiasm we've seen during the past week and therefore none available that you could get ahold of?

 

Let me get this right. There is no danger with rain with the Ice box? I live in seattle.

 

They are all pre-spoken for so far! Honestly they are selling so fast that I would probably have to wait longer then everyone on the board who ordered one (from me or whoever) so far!! Plus, I would never get an item for myself over a customer. I'm placing the orders as I get them... but they are selling so hot that Comptech can barely keep up... so I'm not going to put my name into the mix just yet. I have a feeling that once they start shipping out you will see some real dynos appear on here.

 

You have an email and a PM!!

 

Also, just an update for those who ordered:

Comptech is still shooting for Friday, Feb. 28th as the ship date for the Icebox for all vendors. They should have a better idea by tomorrow if they're going to make this date, so once we are updated, I will update everyone immediately!

 

JB,

Do you know if the application for the 98-02 accord V6 will fit the 3.0 1stGen? I emailed Comptech about it two days ago and they haven't responded.

 

I'll do some digging to try to find out... i haven't received a straight answer on that myself....

 

For the First Gen Guys, re: Fitment of the Icebox:

Per Comptech - "we havent tried that one yet, but we dont think so".

That was the best answer I could get. From talking with other people the problem seems to be the hood line on the first gens. Since it slopes down harder in the nose then the new CL's it may interfere. That's not to say that it won't work for sure... but whoever orders it for the First Gen would be the guinea pig!!

 

Well, I wasn't ready to spend any more $$ on my car until I got it paid off next year, but what the hell -- Juniorbean is a great champion of the CL, even going so far as to setting up a company supporting CL accessories and doing group buys at little profit to help out the online community, so..... count me in!

I'll go to your c-c-c.net page right now and send in my info.

PS. I'm going to be shipping it to Washington state, and then driving down to pick it up bringing it up to Canada... so I'd really appreciate if the invoice you send with it has a slightly lower price on it for Canada Customs......

 

Thanks for the support!!

I sent you a confirmation email this morning regarding payment as well as the invoice thing!

Thanks again!!

 

Can you ship to P.O. Boxxes? I'm about to order, but need to know if i should give you my home addy or my p.o. box.

 

I replied to you via PM and email.. but I'll reply here just in case anyone else has that question!

Shipment will be made via UPS from Comptech, and I'm almost positive that UPS does not deliver to PO Boxes, so to be safe, we'll ship it to the street address.