Hello all,

As some of you may (or may not) know... I have been working on getting a little business together to support the online community. Well, it's coming along slowly but surely. I'm ready to actually dive into this thing, and I figured what better way to launch then to do a Group Buy on the Icebox. I have received all of the approvals to do this... so enjoy. Below are the details:

Comptech Ice Box - $245 shipped
Please indicate Year, CL or TL, model (Type-S or Premium) and manual or Auto.

Price is good from today until February 28, 2003. If you place your order by 3pm eastern Mon-Fri we will process the order the same day. Upon ordering you will receive a confirmation email from us.

If you go to my site linked below you'll see the Paypal link (it's a work in progress, so be gentle ).

http://www.c-c-c.net/Group_Buys.html

On the site I have that NY State residence will be charged 4% sales tax. That is the state tax... I will pay your county tax. It sucks that I have to do this, but I do. If you are from NY and you would like to pay via Money Order to the address on the site I can and will waive the tax. Please email or PM me if you want to send payment via Money Order so I know that payment is on the way.

Any questions, please let me know. I have meetings this morning... but will check the site through-out the day. Thanks!!

 

Dean has them for $240 Shipped.

 

Actually, last check (I called him) was around $250-$255 shipped

 

Hey guys,

Juniorbean is correct in that the pricing at $240 shipped is going to end as of tomorrow from me--they are going up to $255 shipped. We have an agreement with Comptech to not advertise pricing less than 10% off list--Comptech let us get away with it for a while, but now we have to come back in line with others.

Juniorbean called me to talk about this already and he is a great guy!! I wish him all the luck in the world with his new business venture. As they say "it's all good."

Thanks
Dean

PS: Thanks for all the kind words, I do try to help everyone out when I can.

 

so this means that the ICEBOX actually is a real production item, and is being shipped as we speak?

 

hey dean does that mean the special pricing on the swaybars shipped to ca is also going up from the price u quotes me a few weeks ago?

 

actually they have already shipped. Mine was shipped out yesterday and should be here today or tomorrow. i got mine directly from comptech though, they emailed me and saved the last type s intake for me (luckily)

 

Yup

 

slyraskal - then we expect to see glowing reports from you b4 the weekend since you may be one of the first to receive/install. I know many are waiting to hear first-hand impressions about this. I suppose you could use that portion of Colima to open it up unless they've drastically changed that strecth of road from over your way into Whittier

 

What is an icebox? Is it the Comptech equivalent of like, say the AEM CAI? Do you need and air bypass for the Comptech?

 

No bypass valve needed. A CAI is a long tube with a filter at the end. A CAB is what the stock box is like except no resonator.

 

Oh i know plenty of open stretches to test it out on the road! >;] :devil:

but i'm going to actually try to get a dyno run of it by the end of this week or perhaps on saturday.

I just checked the shipment and my intake is on the ups truck heading down the I5 as we speak. so unfortunately it will be here tomorrow I'll probably leave work early tomorrow so i can squeeze in a dyno run before i install the intake, and do one after for comparison.

 

So what's the difference between the stock box, the icebox and the cai? Can the resonator be removed from the stock box then? What are advantages/disadvantages from the three options?

What's it take to install the icebox?

 

The stock air box has a lot of "flaws" in it's design that inhibits maximum air flow, not to mention the size of the piping. Comptech's design, much like the CAIs open the opening to 3inchs which allows more air in and with the smoothness in the interior of the box and/or CAI, it allows air to just be sucked in without anything obstructing it. The advantages of jsut removing the stock resonator is minimal if none. The CAI puts out like 10whp and the icebox basically should do the same. The CAI has the fear of hydrolocking due to the location of the filter whereas the filter on the Icebox is higher up thus it's a natural "bypass valve" design. Putting a bypass valve on the CAI, while may save your engine, will cause you to lose 1-2hp and introduce warm air into the engine which theoritcally defeats the purpose of a CAI.

Edit: Oh as far as installation...if you can install a CAI by yourself, you can do an airbox. It's not that much more difficult. And one more thing, the plastic design of the Icebox allows for better heat dissappation than the aluminum or whatever the CAIs use.

 

Anyone know what the Icebox will sound like? Will it make the car a lot louder than stock?

 

From what I've been reading with other cars... it will be louder then stock.. but quieter then a CAI....

 

Is the Comptech website up-to-date? They have only one model shown, and it says "does not fit type-s".

Also, what type of filter is inside? I assume a Comptech, but is it a flat one or cone?

 

Are you planning on before and after dynos or are you just going to see what you put down once it has already been installed?

 

before and after runs is what i'm shooting for.

and since this is my first engine mod, we'll be able to see just how effective the icebox is by itself.

 

I don't believe the comptech site is up to date, they haven't added the type s intake yet.

and yes the filter is comptech, and i believe it is flat. We'll know tomorrow when i get mine.

 

Well I'm looking forward to your results and comments, slyraskal. Hopefully it outperforms the AEM, or at least gives similar gains, since I prefer this design over the CAI design, especially when in conjunction with a bypass valve.

 

Is there going to be a heat-shield keeping heat from the engine away from the ice box?

 

i agree. My hopes are to outperform the AEM as well. so keep your fingers crossed

 

there is no need for the heat shield. the plastic casing that houses the filter provides adequate if not better shielding than other methods like the aluminum shield that i believe injen uses.

someone earlier in this thread wrote that it dissipates heat better than alluminum which i agree with as well.

 

I think gains will be similar.. if not slightly better then the AEM. Guess only time will tell.

BTW, to those who have placed orders already... thank you!!

 

Plastic, in general, is a lousy conductor of heat -- and/or cold. OTOH, copper and aluminum are excellent conductors. It's not really the dissipation. It has to due with how much "heat capacity" a material has and how it conducts it. Two puffs on intake air and the plastic is cool. If you heat up some copper or aluminum, it is going to transfer (and or dissipate) heat well, but it also "hangs on" to the heat energy.

Seems like a small issue, but the plastic negates the need for a heat shield...


You don't see any radiators being made out of plastic (and I'm not talking about the end caps they use to save weight -- that's were they get the name "plastic radiators"). They are made out of brass, copper, and aluminum.

 

So the CT Icebox is basically a stock box that has a bigger pipe so you can get more air in? And that easier breathing should give you some HP gains? And I'm assuming this icebox sits pretty much in the same location as the stock box (unlike the cai that's routed to the bottom for the air to come in)?

???

 

In my opinion it will be louder than stock with the resonator but same as stock w/o resonator and probably quieter.

 

Quieter would be nice in my opinion. I prefer to be a stealthfully quick car.

 

FYI: the comptech site now shows icebox for cl-s http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/330145cl.html

 

is there a dyno sheet that proves that the CT icebox outperforms aem/injens cai?

i currently have the aem cai. i really dont see how this CT intake will be any better then a true cai...

CAI cooler air goes through filter then into a tube and straight into the intake manifold

ICEBOX air goes through a tube then into a box then into a filter then into another tube and then into the intake manifold.

sidemarker

 

"Fits: 01-03 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
(does not fit 6-speed model)"

Help me out here... are they or aren't they available for us 6-Speeders!?

 

very important question!

 

sorry guys http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/330142cl.html just for u 6 speeders


and install sheet for accord v6 if ya havent seen it http://www.comptechusa.com/instructions/ins089.pdf

 

oh and : http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dy...spd_icebox.pdf

dyno on 6speed, thou its confusing cause on page 1 whp graph it dosent mention anything but the icebox, but on page 2 the torque graph it says headers, downpipe & mufflers installed.

 

i dont trust comptechs dynos.

anyone have a dyno from another car with a icebox installed??

sidemarker

 

It shows up to 14hp gain for the type S, would it have more or less gain on the CL-P's??

 

over at aem it shows a graph for the auto cl-s gaining 15 hp from the cai.

while the manual only gained 9.6 hp. but they show a graph for short ram with max gains of 10.5.


http://www.aempower.com/application/...pplication.htm

 

I look at any of the manufactures dynos with a jaundiced eye, Comptech, AEM... all of them.

 

i should have the dyno with my icebox on thursday.

i got my dyno done today with the complete stock setup.

my best run was 219.1 hp at around 6200rpm
and 203.6 ft-lbs torque at around 4200 rpm and that' stock.

after i get my dyno done with the icebox i'll post the graphs of the before and after for you guys.