xaznperswaesonx

Yokohama AVID V4S
or a Toyo all season? Not sure which one yet. Recomendations?

dwest1023

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41324

xaznperswaesonx

its a bit out of my price range for the bridgestone

xaznperswaesonx

recomendation on Toyo tires? all season with light snow usage. I get discount on Toyos. so its either yok avid or toyos

WFC

I just put four Toyo Versado LX in the stock 215/50/17 on last Friday. I paid a little under cost at $157 per tire. You can find them online for about $105 a piece but remember you'll have to add shipping and mounting/balancing charges. So far I have about 150 miles on them and they seem to have decent traction for an all season. I think the ride is a little rough, but here in Cleveland the roads are terrible, especially in the winter. It's a AA 400 rated tire so wet weather traction should be good along with tread life. Other than that, it's a bit early to give a reasonable opinion.
http://www.treadepot.com/group/VERS.html

xaznperswaesonx

so anyone else have used Toyo Versado LX?

xaznperswaesonx

$702.39 out the door cost for Yokohama YK520.. good price?

projectsx

you should check out the new yok S-DRIVE very good tire . you can get those under $150 each mounted and balanced.

xaznperswaesonx

arent he Sdrive a summer tire?

Red@8

Yup!

xaznperswaesonx

Toyo Versado LX
Yok avid v4s
yok yk520

if all was same price which is recomended?

Still Water

Yokohama AVID V4S

Love 'em. Compared to the OEM Mich's, night 'n day. I'm here in SacTown area too and with all the rain we've had not even a little slip or slide. They give me great feedback in heavy water and handle as if on dry pavement. No flat spots in the morn, stopping grip is great and they run smooth & quite. The car seems to tramline less while still responsive to the wheel input. They can react differently depending on the air pressure but that's only really come into play on hard cornering with low pressure (soft sidewalls). I've got about 8k+ on them and have not noticed any real drop-off or noise increase. I ordered (1-day) thru a Big-O because of service & warranty coverage. I could have paid less if I hunted around but ended up paying about $750+/- if I remember correctly.

PS - If you're into looks they've got an aggressive tread pattern and look great from behind. I guess that makes me a butt man.

xaznperswaesonx

from my undrestanding .. yk520 is basically a avid v4s with different tread pattern and newer internal design.

i do like the v4s .. but yk520 is suppose to be better yet i've read differently through feedbacks.

The versado is new so i was wondering anyone else can chime in on this situation.

Michael921

I have read a lot of posts on various TSX forums and the best overall reviews seem to be for the Yoko Avid A4S and my favorite Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS.

If you are trying to save some bucks try finding tires shops such as America's tire or even your local Bridgestone/Firestone Store's which I believe both of them match internet pricing. The same goes for any tire you should choose. Good Luck!

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=0

WFC

I thought I would chime back in and give an updated review on the Versado LX as I now have over 1000 miles on them. Keep in mind that we have terrible roads here in Cleveland. 215/50/R17 on a scale of 1-10 compared to OEM Michelin:

Steering Response: 7
Road Noise: 8 (City) 5 ( Freeway @ 60 mph+)
Comfort: 5
Wet Traction: 7
Light Snow: 4

Recommend: No.


I don't particularly care for this tire. My OEM's were shot and I thought the ride quality could only get better, but I was wrong. If you so much as run over a bubble gum wrapper with these you're going to feel it. I will note that the road noise on the freeway is from the right front tire only and it's an extremely high pitched sound. They do seem to kick up a lot of small road debris, as I constantly hear crap hitting my fender well. This is simply an unbiased opinion, take it for what it's worth. Remember that these are all seasons, so don't think you're gonna push to the limit and get away with it, but as far as comfort and ride quality, they're terrible. Bad thing about tires is you never know until it's too late. Hope this helps out.

xaznperswaesonx

so i guess its between the AVID and the yK520

bluefang08

Yokos for sure, I would say the AVIDS.

coronad0

Yarr ... I just picked up the Versado's at Treadepot.com for $128 ... free shipping. I live in Colorado and my Avid V4s are getting pretty bald and I've put about 32k on them. I don't drive her hard these days and after a few other reviews from some online tire sites figure these can't be that bad ... so I'll have to check out what WFC has said above ...

The snow is getting pretty constant here but not too heavy and I don't feel I need a true snow tire (plus I'm a cheap ass) and these had pretty decent reviews for light snow grip, which is what I need right now. I will say the load rating for tires that the TSX needs is kind of a killer when it comes to tire selection ... I noticed nearly same size tires that are under the 93 load index were almost always $20 to $30 cheaper than the tires we need ... lame.

coronad0

-- Toyo Versado Update --

So, I've put about 1300 miles on the Versado's and I like them so far ... You have to remember as WFC said above, these are "luxury touring tires", they are not racing slicks, nor summer smoothies, they're built to last you a while as long as you are not pulling 8g corners around town.

On the highway I thought they were very smooth, very quiet. There's a section of highway, about 5 miles worth, just South of where I live that just got repaved, I opened the windows to get some good road and wind noise in and I could barely hear the tires rolling ...

We had some snow about 4 days ago, maybe an inch to and inch and a half, and on slightly uphill stops, they bit quit well and I could only get the TSA to turn on with a quick flooring of the pedal (which would happen with any tire). There was a mix of hardpack and ice on one section into work, around a corner as well, and I couldn't get the car to slip out ...

For the price I paid and what I was looking for in a tire, I think the Toyo's are hard to beat. I'll give an update after this summer season.

WFC

I am not disagreeing with the above opinion regarding snow, but we have been getting some consistant bad weather here in Cleveland and with as little as an inch of snow (which is nothing here) my VSA and ABS are constantly engaging. Could there be another reason for this other than the tires? Just curious. Thanks.

Jimmay

I have never owned any of those tires. Have you ever used tire rack??? They have some good reviews. Im going to go with BFGoodrich Traction T/As or Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge on my Rl. They had decent reviews and rating for all types of conditions.

www.tirerack.com

xaznperswaesonx

yes i have used tire rack .. and the YK520 is only avail from discount tire/america tire only and read all the reviews of both the avid and yk520. i ended up getting the yk520 and so far .. i'm fairly happy. no point in spending the same amount of money on older technology (avid tire )

and imo ... i wouldnt use all season tire for snow application when the snow level is too high to the point the tire cant even touch the ground. so i say more than 1/2 inch .. i'd go dedicated winter tires, bc that's whats winter tires are for.

Beestang

I put a set of Toyo Versados on my '01 TL about 1,000 miles ago, and am so glad I did. They're far superior to the original equipment Michelins that came with the car, and even better than the Toyo Proxes TPT's they replaced. The ride is so quiet and smooth, and the car really seems to hug the road. These are by far the best tires I've ever owned. Looking forward to trying them in the tough Ohio winter...

xaznperswaesonx

since thread is resurrected, kind of. I'll chim in on the Yok YK520. For a tire that is rated 520 tread wear. The grip is freaking amazing! Extremely happy with the purchase. had it for about 15k miles on it. Tread wear is great, i recently had it checked, 7 7 7 ( outer| middle| inner), on the tread depth meter. And I drive like the car was stolen. I need to stop though, going through so much gas. After the car was lowered on Nuespeed konis .. i went through 3 tank of gas in a week!

Next tire I'm going for is the Bridgestone Potenza 960s pole position or the Potenza g019 grids for all season, and the Potenza 760 sport for summer.

nj2pa2nc

replaced the OEM Michelin tires in April at 74,000 miles with Yokohama Avid v4s tires-hate them. Lose traction on wet roads, very noisy and gas mileage went down. My car has almost 91,000 miles.

Savio

For those with the Yokos 520s, how is the road noise? Is it any worse than the michelins?

Tread Depot

Working in the tire industry for as long as I have it was hard for me to determine what tire to put on my vehicle when the OEM tires wore out. I ended up putting the Toyo Versado's on my vehicle this past spring and I am extremely happy I did. I drive 30 miles each way to work and the tire has proven to be extremely quiet on the highway. I would definitely recommend this tire to anyone who is considering it.

06Carbon

I live in the Denver area and had my choice down to michelin Alpen winter tires or the Yoko 520s. Tried to make my origional michelins make it to 50k but picked up a nail 5 miles into a 400 mile Rocky mountain tour. Decided on the Yoko 520's due to price which was $670 out the door and siped from Discount tires. The siping was $15 per tire and since I didn't get winter tires when asked if I wanted them I said Uh... OK. Discount tire claimed the mileage and noise would be uneffected by the siping. It's been so long since the OEM tires were new I can't say really if these tires are that much quieter but there is a great difference now as the OEMS got ugly noisey at the end. My first impression is that these tires hold the road and handle well. The comfort of the ride is like new if memory serves. They are not perfect as major road imperfections are sometimes jarring but over all for the price I am quite happy at 1K mike. I will update at 10K.

hydronos

I got the toyo proxes 4's about 5 months ago...the handling def. improved over the stock michelins and they are going strong i love the tread pattern...if you have stock rims get 225/45/17 its a little wider tire which i say gives me better handling

millarduck

I had a nail and subsequent flat on my stock Bridgestone EL42. While the tire dealer had the tire off for a patch, they noticed the belts were seperating, then found all 4 were seperating @ 27,000 miles. I ended up with Toyo's based on the cost $145 installed, as well as my good experience with the Toyo TPT Proxes on my BMW 530i. The dealer I bought them from is a family friend and sells BFG and Michelin. He thought the Toyos would meet my needs of 4 season traction and highway mileage without breaking the bank with the $250 Michelins. I am in sales, and travel in the Northeast. Performance for me is, good handling, quiet on the highway, no hyrdoplaning on the NJ Turnpike when it rains, and getting out of my development when it snows. He told me that the Versados would not handle as well as the EL42's on dry roads at extreme cornering, but would handle better in wet and snow. I will update as well my progression with these tires.

earbuckle

I would suggest also looking at the Michelin Primacy MXV4, which comes in 215-50x17 95V XL, perfect for the TSX. TR just had a $119 special, but that has now ended and a new $70 rebate (on 4) has been added. Price is back up to $169, still much cheaper than MXM4 and comparable to the Toyo Versado and others mentioned.

Both TR and Consumer Reports rank the Primacy MXV4 as the top GT all-season tire.

I just put them on my 2006 TSX and am very impressed. Noise, ride, handling are all first rate. Waiting for winter's first snow to provide the acid test. The old MXM4's, with 60,000 miles, were scary last winter!

Earl

jswim99

I've had the Yoko V4Ses for about 20k miles and I have to say I'm not very happy with them. More road noise than stocks (and my winter tires!), flat spots on cold mornings, and my gas mileage goes down about 2-3 mpg with these on the car. Traction does seem to be better than the stock Michelins, but I run winter tires as well, so I haven't really tested them in snow and ice. Next time I buy I'll try a different tire.