Snow/Slush/Rain Tires ????
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Snow/Slush/Rain Tires ????
HI, I'm probably gonna be getting a TSX soon (waiting for the 05 like everyone else...lol)....and was reading up on the traction that the stock tires provided...which seems to be not THAT great...
I go to college in Pittsburgh, and if anyone knows the weather there, its :shit: ... Rain, slush, Snow, slush, rain, black ice....etc. Occasionally its sunny....
As such, I was looking around for some good all-season tires, leaning towards better traction in bad weather....any recommendations??? I've read up a bit on the Michellin Pilot Alpin PA2 and the Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3 DSST. I am going to stick to 17" (stock size)....and its not possible for me to keep TWO sets of tires (i.e. Snow set and dry set).....
Also, Pittsburgh has quite a few hills, nothing OUT there...but they're there....and the road conditions arent great but the roads do get plowed and snowed "sufficenty"....any recommendations...espically from TSX Pittsburgh or PA owners..??
I go to college in Pittsburgh, and if anyone knows the weather there, its :shit: ... Rain, slush, Snow, slush, rain, black ice....etc. Occasionally its sunny....
As such, I was looking around for some good all-season tires, leaning towards better traction in bad weather....any recommendations??? I've read up a bit on the Michellin Pilot Alpin PA2 and the Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3 DSST. I am going to stick to 17" (stock size)....and its not possible for me to keep TWO sets of tires (i.e. Snow set and dry set).....
Also, Pittsburgh has quite a few hills, nothing OUT there...but they're there....and the road conditions arent great but the roads do get plowed and snowed "sufficenty"....any recommendations...espically from TSX Pittsburgh or PA owners..??
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For true all weather performance the ONLY tire that is truly safe for all four seasons is the Nokian WR. At this time you'd have to go with a 225/45R17(either H or V speed rating available) however, I suspect the 215/50R17 will be coming out soon.
Here comes the sales pitch so take it for what you will. The WR is the only all weather tire in north america, what seperates this from all other all season tires is the fact that the WR has the mountain snowflake symbol on it. This symbol is given only to tires that pass winter testing(a regular M+S symbol is not the same thing), what makes the WR different is that fact you can leave it on year round(it comes with a 50k mile waranty), it will handle great, ride good, offer superb wet traction(thanks in part to an advanced thermo-silca tread compound) and unparalleled winter traction. It has a lot of "bells and whistles" as I call them, including the DSI(driving safety indicator) and the info pin. It features jointless nylon belts which gives the tread a boat hull shaped foot print and of course is directional. And the icing on the cake, it has a 30 day free test drive so if you don't like it for any reason in the first 30 days they will take them back(some dealers may not offer that, but you should ask for added security)
I am not only a Nokian dealer, so as bias as my statements may have sounded this is my personal opinion based on over 10 years in the biz. As you can see I run Bridgestone touring tires on my TSX and have a set of 16" wheels off a TL which I will be using in winter with Nokian Hakkapeliitta 2 snow tires. When it comes to winter tires Nokian is the king.
Here comes the sales pitch so take it for what you will. The WR is the only all weather tire in north america, what seperates this from all other all season tires is the fact that the WR has the mountain snowflake symbol on it. This symbol is given only to tires that pass winter testing(a regular M+S symbol is not the same thing), what makes the WR different is that fact you can leave it on year round(it comes with a 50k mile waranty), it will handle great, ride good, offer superb wet traction(thanks in part to an advanced thermo-silca tread compound) and unparalleled winter traction. It has a lot of "bells and whistles" as I call them, including the DSI(driving safety indicator) and the info pin. It features jointless nylon belts which gives the tread a boat hull shaped foot print and of course is directional. And the icing on the cake, it has a 30 day free test drive so if you don't like it for any reason in the first 30 days they will take them back(some dealers may not offer that, but you should ask for added security)
I am not only a Nokian dealer, so as bias as my statements may have sounded this is my personal opinion based on over 10 years in the biz. As you can see I run Bridgestone touring tires on my TSX and have a set of 16" wheels off a TL which I will be using in winter with Nokian Hakkapeliitta 2 snow tires. When it comes to winter tires Nokian is the king.
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She said: it's GINORMOUS!
had dunlop sp5000s on my civic si last winter and it gripped very well. continential extreme contact is also very good - my bro has it on his wrx. i'm getting a set of snow tires for the tsx...i spend a lot of time in VT/NH boarding.
tireguy: will look into the nokian wr
tireguy: will look into the nokian wr
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The best solution is to get a set of performance summer tires and a set of snows. It costs more up front but over the life of your car it really doesn't cost much more. I'm taking a serious look at the Toyo Garit HT for the winter: http://www.toyocanada.com/products/GaritHT.html
The Nokian's are also great tires as TireGuy suggested.
If you still want to go for all season tires, many of our members are using Toyo Proxes 4 with good results: http://www.toyocanada.com/products/Proxes4.html
The Nokian's are also great tires as TireGuy suggested.
If you still want to go for all season tires, many of our members are using Toyo Proxes 4 with good results: http://www.toyocanada.com/products/Proxes4.html
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Originally Posted by saury316
....and its not possible for me to keep TWO sets of tires (i.e. Snow set and dry set).....
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I'm taking a serious look at the Toyo Garit HT for the winter: http://www.toyocanada.com/products/GaritHT.html
I've used the Bridgestone Blizzacks in the past which are excellent in the snow able to get around in 6+ inches with out fail.
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why comprimise? get a real good winter only tire set, and when stocks wear out, get a real good high performance summer (also great in the rain) set. all weather tire are a joke... IMO.
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Originally Posted by Viking
What size tires and what kind of rims are you going to use for the winter set up? I hate the plain steel rims cause they make the car look like crap and the hubcapps always end up popping off. Just curious b/c I will need them for this coming winter.
I've used the Bridgestone Blizzacks in the past which are excellent in the snow able to get around in 6+ inches with out fail.
I've used the Bridgestone Blizzacks in the past which are excellent in the snow able to get around in 6+ inches with out fail.
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Originally Posted by DEVO
why comprimise? get a real good winter only tire set, and when stocks wear out, get a real good high performance summer (also great in the rain) set. all weather tire are a joke... IMO.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I've got a second set of OEM rims for winter duty. Check out ebay because I got a set of 4 for just over $300.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
It was USD of course and I had to pick them up in CT.
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Originally Posted by fdl
ahh..pickup is key cuz shipping would be a bitch. Still a great deal though.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I've got a second set of OEM rims for winter duty. Check out ebay because I got a set of 4 for just over $300.
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Nokian WR - is a great choice ...last winter we used em ...
besides Acura/Honda has ASC...it will help you much...
hm mi dont have any idea about model which will be safe on snow and good performance at summer...
For instance Nokian Haka Q becomes sticky and very very soft when temp is above 10 C...but when snowy winter - it is the best choice...!!!
M.
besides Acura/Honda has ASC...it will help you much...
hm mi dont have any idea about model which will be safe on snow and good performance at summer...
For instance Nokian Haka Q becomes sticky and very very soft when temp is above 10 C...but when snowy winter - it is the best choice...!!!
M.
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Originally Posted by Tireguy
For true all weather performance the ONLY tire that is truly safe for all four seasons is the Nokian WR. At this time you'd have to go with a 225/45R17(either H or V speed rating available) however, I suspect the 215/50R17 will be coming out soon.
I've been using NRWs (predecessor to the WR) for the past couple of years. Think of these as winter tires that you can actually run all year. If handling in snow+wet is more important than handling in the dry, WRs are definitely the way to go.
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What's everyone's recommendation for the best performance summer tires that also offer good wet/rain traction? I've heard good things about Toyo Proxes...
I had Nitto NT-450's on my old car...but they were absolutely horrendous in the rain...bad bad traction...
I'm also thinking of buying rubber, because the stock tires tend to squeal alot when cornering quickly or just moving quickly from a stop...
I had Nitto NT-450's on my old car...but they were absolutely horrendous in the rain...bad bad traction...
I'm also thinking of buying rubber, because the stock tires tend to squeal alot when cornering quickly or just moving quickly from a stop...
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Originally Posted by Maximus
Nokian WR - is a great choice ...last winter we used em ...
besides Acura/Honda has ASC...it will help you much...
hm mi dont have any idea about model which will be safe on snow and good performance at summer...
For instance Nokian Haka Q becomes sticky and very very soft when temp is above 10 C...but when snowy winter - it is the best choice...!!!
M.
besides Acura/Honda has ASC...it will help you much...
hm mi dont have any idea about model which will be safe on snow and good performance at summer...
For instance Nokian Haka Q becomes sticky and very very soft when temp is above 10 C...but when snowy winter - it is the best choice...!!!
M.
I completely agree with your comments about the hakka Q they are great and are fairly stable considering the amount of sipeing the tire has- however in warmer weather they tend to sway a lot and cause tread squirm which equates to heal and toe wear. Once a wear pattern sets into a hakka Q there is no fixing it, they become loud and would drive a sane person out of there mind! They have fixed all of these problems with the hakka 2 and increased winter traction, I am consistantly amazed at just how good the hakka 2 is across the board. I had a customer come in just last week and he put 20k miles on his hakka 2's in one season and just came back from cape cod(about 4-5 hour drive from here, each way) and he did this in July on his snow tires!! And they wore great, I was truly shocked.
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