Neuspeed Koni Yellows Group Buy, interested?
04-06-2006, 02:31 AM
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OK, Let's get some organization here.....
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Nobody is signed up for anything at this point.
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Before I can discuss pricing, I need to know how many of what we are talking about.
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No pricing will be posted in any thread anywhere.
The best way I have found to guage interest in a buy or sale is by getting emails from people. So if you are interested in this deal at all, send me an email. The address is marcus@heeltoeauto.com. In the email indicate the who/what/when that relate to you you....as in:
Who are you
What do you want
When you want it
You all want prices. I know. I am not going to release any until I get 'enough' emails. Maybe you think 'why bother.' Fine. Don't email me, and this won't go through. You all know what these parts sell for under normal circumstances. If you can't afford them at regular price, there is not going to be a magical fairy dust that instantly cuts the price in half. The fact of the matter is, the price is going to be what it is, but it depends on how many kits we are talking about.
So, send some emails people.
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Nobody is signed up for anything at this point.
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Before I can discuss pricing, I need to know how many of what we are talking about.
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No pricing will be posted in any thread anywhere.
The best way I have found to guage interest in a buy or sale is by getting emails from people. So if you are interested in this deal at all, send me an email. The address is marcus@heeltoeauto.com. In the email indicate the who/what/when that relate to you you....as in:
Who are you
What do you want
When you want it
You all want prices. I know. I am not going to release any until I get 'enough' emails. Maybe you think 'why bother.' Fine. Don't email me, and this won't go through. You all know what these parts sell for under normal circumstances. If you can't afford them at regular price, there is not going to be a magical fairy dust that instantly cuts the price in half. The fact of the matter is, the price is going to be what it is, but it depends on how many kits we are talking about.
So, send some emails people.
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04-06-2006, 03:13 AM
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Email sent Marcus. I am local to you so will be able to pick up, let me know asap. I'm looking to get this kit within the week. Thanks!!!
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04-06-2006, 03:31 PM
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I sent e-mail to you marcus, and I just want to confirm it...are we talking about the same kit as this :
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=52|AC&type=2<ype=ns_impo rt&p_id=1934
If we are, then count me in.
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=52|AC&type=2<ype=ns_impo rt&p_id=1934
If we are, then count me in.
04-06-2006, 04:24 PM
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Cool!
Anyway just to inform you guys [since nobody actually put the part number], the kit will include these thing :
Kit includes the following:
1 - 55.20.52 NEUSPEED Race Spring Kit
1 - 8041-1322LSP3
1 - 8041-1322RSP3
2 - 8041-1329SP3
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Anyway just to inform you guys [since nobody actually put the part number], the kit will include these thing :
Kit includes the following:
1 - 55.20.52 NEUSPEED Race Spring Kit
1 - 8041-1322LSP3
1 - 8041-1322RSP3
2 - 8041-1329SP3
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04-06-2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
I thought we are just doing the shocks...no springs???
can Marcus confrim this please? since he's the vendor, please post pics and specs of the EXACT item..
can Marcus confrim this please? since he's the vendor, please post pics and specs of the EXACT item..
http://www.ingallseng.com/cars/honda.html
Everyone say this is the best manufacture for camber kit.
04-06-2006, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by liuhendy
Dude,were talking about a kit...that's why we talking about Neuspeed and Koni. Koni makes the suspension and neuspeed makes the spring, anyway since you guys going to get this, you guys need camber kits...can I suggest we do GB for Ingalls camber kit as well?Information can be found at :
http://www.ingallseng.com/cars/honda.html
Everyone say this is the best manufacture for camber kit.
http://www.ingallseng.com/cars/honda.html
Everyone say this is the best manufacture for camber kit.
And camber kits were never mentioned either, we don't want to ask for too much. Mr. Heeltoe is doing us a huge favor by looking into the Koni's.
04-06-2006, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kaikai114
I got the cash in hand too, if the price is fair, I'll put down a deposit. I am actually looking for the Neuspeed Super Cup Kit (neuspeed sport springs + koni shocks in a set). The listing price on neuspeed website is $600, please let me know how much you are able to get it for. Thanks Marcus.
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http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=52|AC&type=2<ype=ns_impo rt&p_id=1934
If the cost for the suspensions like $500, I'll go with the kit, which will cost me around $100 more. Please clarified Marcus.
04-06-2006, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by liuhendy
I thought we are talking about the kit?You guys can see it at
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=52|AC&type=2<ype=ns_impo rt&p_id=1934
If the cost for the suspensions like $500, I'll go with the kit, which will cost me around $100 more. Please clarified Marcus.
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=52|AC&type=2<ype=ns_impo rt&p_id=1934
If the cost for the suspensions like $500, I'll go with the kit, which will cost me around $100 more. Please clarified Marcus.
Everybody else is getting Neuspeed Koni Yellow shocks only, and that is what the thread started with originally. I have decided to get the kit since I'll be needing springs as well. My apologies if I caused any confusion. If you have any other needs other than the shocks, please email MrHeelToe directly that way it's easier for him to keep track of everything. MrHeelToe is working very hard to get all of us what we want, and we're just here to keep things organized and easier for him.
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04-06-2006, 07:23 PM
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Koni's are good struts for the $$$. Koni's have a lifetime warranty too.
Some of TEIN's offerings for the TSX are not worth the money they are asking for. I'm sorry ~1400$ for a twin-tube damper/coilover (TEIN Type Flex) is totally NOT WORTH IT.
I'd rather have H&R coilovers (which are mono-tube) over SS'.
Buddy Clubs or D2 coilovers over the TEIN Type Flex's.
Some of TEIN's offerings for the TSX are not worth the money they are asking for. I'm sorry ~1400$ for a twin-tube damper/coilover (TEIN Type Flex) is totally NOT WORTH IT.
I'd rather have H&R coilovers (which are mono-tube) over SS'.
Buddy Clubs or D2 coilovers over the TEIN Type Flex's.
Originally Posted by 03pcoupe
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You can get a set of Neuspeed Race springs and the SP3 shocks for $600 shipped on the Neuspeed website, thats much cheaper than the Teins. Supposedly compared to the Teins, the adjustable dampening ability of the Konis will allow you to get a smoother, more OEM like ride, if thats what you want. But performance-wise the Teins are stiffer and would be better for racing/tracking, however, the Konis can be adjusted to be very stiff also. With the Koni shocks, you can only get about +/- .55 inches of additional HEIGHT adjustability, versus the Teins which have a much larger range of height adjustability. Overall, the best bang for the buck, IMHO, would be lowering springs and the Koni SP3 shocks, for ride comfort and cost, also I am not really interested in height adjustments.
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Yes, the Neuspeed/Koni (SP3) version, with its shorter shafts, are meant to be used in conjunction with lowering springs.
You can get a set of Neuspeed Race springs and the SP3 shocks for $600 shipped on the Neuspeed website, thats much cheaper than the Teins. Supposedly compared to the Teins, the adjustable dampening ability of the Konis will allow you to get a smoother, more OEM like ride, if thats what you want. But performance-wise the Teins are stiffer and would be better for racing/tracking, however, the Konis can be adjusted to be very stiff also. With the Koni shocks, you can only get about +/- .55 inches of additional HEIGHT adjustability, versus the Teins which have a much larger range of height adjustability. Overall, the best bang for the buck, IMHO, would be lowering springs and the Koni SP3 shocks, for ride comfort and cost, also I am not really interested in height adjustments.
kaikai114-
Yes, the Neuspeed/Koni (SP3) version, with its shorter shafts, are meant to be used in conjunction with lowering springs.
04-06-2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
I thought we are just doing the shocks...no springs???
can Marcus confrim this please? since he's the vendor, please post pics and specs of the EXACT item..
can Marcus confrim this please? since he's the vendor, please post pics and specs of the EXACT item..
04-06-2006, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX420J
I think they are the same price. at tire rack they just raised the price to 150.00 each shock by them selves at neuspeed they are 600.00 for the shocks and springs plus they have more adjustability.
04-06-2006, 09:57 PM
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Wow, step out for a few hours and look what happens!!!
You are trying to compare the FLEX kit with a spring and shock combo. The FLEX have a threaded body, corrosion resistant coating, upper pillow mounts, and full length damper height adjustment. They are in a whole other league.
Compare Koni Yellows and Springs to The Tein SS, at $899 shipped. That is more realistic. I sell Tein too and think they are great. They actually very reasonably priced. Saying they are overpriced is borderline ignorant. For the record, the only reason why I am offering this GB is because you guys are asking for it.
As far as what is included, I will be getting anything you want from Neuspeed in this promotion. Hell, get a short shifter and strut bar too if you want.
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Originally Posted by drkangel348
Yeah I'm not saying TEIN's are bad. I just think that they're just a tad overpriced.
Compare Koni Yellows and Springs to The Tein SS, at $899 shipped. That is more realistic. I sell Tein too and think they are great. They actually very reasonably priced. Saying they are overpriced is borderline ignorant. For the record, the only reason why I am offering this GB is because you guys are asking for it.
As far as what is included, I will be getting anything you want from Neuspeed in this promotion. Hell, get a short shifter and strut bar too if you want.
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04-06-2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by liuhendy
Yeah...so it's like getting the spring for free or cheap....so why not guys?I'm down for the kit, since I need the spring as well. is it possible for some to get the kit, and some get the shocks only?
However, did you see how low these race springs lower the car? It looks like this setup will really slam it.
04-06-2006, 10:51 PM
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I know the neuspeed page lists the kit as having the neuspeed RACE springs. I was wondering if it would be possible to get the kit with the less aggressive SPORT springs since both springs are listed at the same price. Thanks
04-07-2006, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by liuhendy
Dude,were talking about a kit...that's why we talking about Neuspeed and Koni. Koni makes the suspension and neuspeed makes the spring, anyway since you guys going to get this, you guys need camber kits...can I suggest we do GB for Ingalls camber kit as well?Information can be found at :
http://www.ingallseng.com/cars/honda.html
Everyone say this is the best manufacture for camber kit.
http://www.ingallseng.com/cars/honda.html
Everyone say this is the best manufacture for camber kit.
04-07-2006, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jackacc
Actually, that is a good point, depending on the cost as compared to just the neuspeed koni struts alone, that is a good deal. And if Marcus doesn't mind what products we get from Neuspeed, you are all set.
However, did you see how low these race springs lower the car? It looks like this setup will really slam it.
However, did you see how low these race springs lower the car? It looks like this setup will really slam it.
04-07-2006, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
Learn how to read the thread from page 1 buddy. damn noobs...
04-07-2006, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nader-tsx
I know the neuspeed page lists the kit as having the neuspeed RACE springs. I was wondering if it would be possible to get the kit with the less aggressive SPORT springs since both springs are listed at the same price. Thanks
We are only taking serious bidders on this GB only. If you got cash/money in hand, read pg 2 and follow the instructions given by MrHeelToe. It'll be easier for both you and him.
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04-07-2006, 04:22 AM
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Coming from Buddy Club Racing Spec coilovers, I think it all depends on what your "needs" are. Coilovers are great for people that want spirited driving on a daily basis or take their cars to racetracks often. Nothing can beat the performance aspect of a full coilover system like TEIN Flex or BC Racing Spec. They offer the widest range of adjustments available. Downside to them is spring rate being higher than most suspension systems out there, which makes ride stiffer generally speaking, not always.
With koni yellow setup, you'll be able to adjust the ride height, but only within 0.55" & -0.55". And you will have to remove the whole strut suspension to readjust ride height unlike Teins and BC you can just lift car up and adjust. But good side of the konis are, very close ride comfort to that of stock suspension. So it all comes down to what you need/want. Nothing is truly more superior than the other, Teins and BC are much more expensive because of the extra adjustability/flexibility they offer.
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With koni yellow setup, you'll be able to adjust the ride height, but only within 0.55" & -0.55". And you will have to remove the whole strut suspension to readjust ride height unlike Teins and BC you can just lift car up and adjust. But good side of the konis are, very close ride comfort to that of stock suspension. So it all comes down to what you need/want. Nothing is truly more superior than the other, Teins and BC are much more expensive because of the extra adjustability/flexibility they offer.
KC
04-07-2006, 05:15 AM
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^ 
since i ain't tracking this car (maybe once or twice) i decided to go this route. You gotta know what you guys want...
and to answer some people's concern about the camber kit, NO, you don't need one, even though on the site it says highly recommended, it's not necessary. I've lowered my car over 1.5" front and back for over a year, it's fine. People get camber kit because they want to reduce the tire wear at the rear wheel, since after you lower, you will have negative camber thus causing the tire to be uneven on the road. It's all a personal preference. Me, i don't give a damn about the stock tires, so i never got one. Though I am planning one soon because I don't want to ruin my good summer tires when i get some rims~
since i ain't tracking this car (maybe once or twice) i decided to go this route. You gotta know what you guys want...and to answer some people's concern about the camber kit, NO, you don't need one, even though on the site it says highly recommended, it's not necessary. I've lowered my car over 1.5" front and back for over a year, it's fine. People get camber kit because they want to reduce the tire wear at the rear wheel, since after you lower, you will have negative camber thus causing the tire to be uneven on the road. It's all a personal preference. Me, i don't give a damn about the stock tires, so i never got one. Though I am planning one soon because I don't want to ruin my good summer tires when i get some rims~
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Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
Wow, step out for a few hours and look what happens!!!
You are trying to compare the FLEX kit with a spring and shock combo. The FLEX have a threaded body, corrosion resistant coating, upper pillow mounts, and full length damper height adjustment. They are in a whole other league.
Compare Koni Yellows and Springs to The Tein SS, at $899 shipped. That is more realistic. I sell Tein too and think they are great. They actually very reasonably priced. Saying they are overpriced is borderline ignorant. For the record, the only reason why I am offering this GB is because you guys are asking for it.
As far as what is included, I will be getting anything you want from Neuspeed in this promotion. Hell, get a short shifter and strut bar too if you want.
Marcus
You are trying to compare the FLEX kit with a spring and shock combo. The FLEX have a threaded body, corrosion resistant coating, upper pillow mounts, and full length damper height adjustment. They are in a whole other league.
Compare Koni Yellows and Springs to The Tein SS, at $899 shipped. That is more realistic. I sell Tein too and think they are great. They actually very reasonably priced. Saying they are overpriced is borderline ignorant. For the record, the only reason why I am offering this GB is because you guys are asking for it.
As far as what is included, I will be getting anything you want from Neuspeed in this promotion. Hell, get a short shifter and strut bar too if you want.
Marcus
04-07-2006, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kaikai114
Coming from Buddy Club Racing Spec coilovers, I think it all depends on what your "needs" are. Coilovers are great for people that want spirited driving on a daily basis or take their cars to racetracks often. Nothing can beat the performance aspect of a full coilover system like TEIN Flex or BC Racing Spec. They offer the widest range of adjustments available. Downside to them is spring rate being higher than most suspension systems out there, which makes ride stiffer generally speaking, not always.
With koni yellow setup, you'll be able to adjust the ride height, but only within 0.55" & -0.55". And you will have to remove the whole strut suspension to readjust ride height unlike Teins and BC you can just lift car up and adjust. But good side of the konis are, very close ride comfort to that of stock suspension. So it all comes down to what you need/want. Nothing is truly more superior than the other, Teins and BC are much more expensive because of the extra adjustability/flexibility they offer.
KC
With koni yellow setup, you'll be able to adjust the ride height, but only within 0.55" & -0.55". And you will have to remove the whole strut suspension to readjust ride height unlike Teins and BC you can just lift car up and adjust. But good side of the konis are, very close ride comfort to that of stock suspension. So it all comes down to what you need/want. Nothing is truly more superior than the other, Teins and BC are much more expensive because of the extra adjustability/flexibility they offer.
KC
The way Twin-Tube dampers are designed they will wear out overtime because they are designed to be cheap to produce.
You can read the comparison between mono-tube and twin-tube dampers here.
People have reported that H&R coilovers will last you as long as the life of the car.
Springs on the other hand.... You can get springs made by Ground Control/Eibach with specific spring rate that meet your criteria. I'm not comparing Flexs to Koni's, I'm just saying paying 1400$ for Twin-Tube dampers is outrageous. Most people think TEIN = the best coilovers you can buy, which is not so for the TSX.
I'll admit though the TEIN Type Flexs springs do have a very nice linear spring rate.
TEIN Type Flex's are great coilovers just not the best.
The Buddy Clubs are VERY nice coilovers.
04-07-2006, 10:41 AM
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Benz_05_TSX, I thought you have the Mugen Coilovers? Or is it my memories cheating me...
drkangel, now you're making me want to keep my BC coilovers
how long usually does konis last? i'm guessing the life time guarantee is just a marketing gimick...
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drkangel, now you're making me want to keep my BC coilovers
how long usually does konis last? i'm guessing the life time guarantee is just a marketing gimick...KC
04-07-2006, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kaikai114
With koni yellow setup, you'll be able to adjust the ride height, but only within 0.55" & -0.55". And you will have to remove the whole strut suspension to readjust ride height unlike Teins and BC you can just lift car up and adjust. But good side of the konis are, very close ride comfort to that of stock suspension. So it all comes down to what you need/want. Nothing is truly more superior than the other, Teins and BC are much more expensive because of the extra adjustability/flexibility they offer.
KC
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Be careful here....Teins in general are not this way. The FLEX are, yes. But the SS and Basic are very comfortable systems that are great for daily driving. It is almost better to cite the model of Tein you are talking about rather than the name Tein itself.