Asahi

What perch setting are you guys using with your springs. I am looking at a comptech/Neupsed combo but don't want the car to look "lowered" and wanted to make sure I had enough height flexibility.

cazzy

I have mine set to 5 (lowest setting) all the way around because I have a MT. Look at the Springs vs. Coilovers thread...there are some pictures of my car and AlterZgo's.

Asahi

WHich brings up a question. What is the difference between an MT or AT suspension wise?

cazzy

Weight! The AT's naturally sit a little lower because they are heavier.

Asahi

Yea, I read your post in the other tread..., it seems the AT sits lower. Based on your pictures which look great by the way, I would run on the 3rd or 4th perch. I don't want it to seem lowered just subtlely sporty

Asahi

Also based on my preferences does anyone thing the A-spec woudl suit me better of is this still a superior setup for the extra $175?

cazzy

Based on your comments...it seems the A-spec kit would be suffice. If you go my route and only set the spring perch to 3, then that is about the same drop the A-spec kit will give you. The + part of that is that it is fully warrantied and from what I have been told...a camber kit is not needed. You can get the A-spec kit for $600.00 from Acura of Escondido then you get a Acura Dealership to install the part. My dealership offered to match their price, so I would call your local dealer first if you decide to go that route. ***IMO, if you are planning on getting rims, I would not get the A-spec.

Asahi

No plan for wheels but what is the problem with wheels and A-spec?

I would like to get a 225/45/17 Yokohame ES100 tire.

LannyM

That size tire will fit, but it's on the small side. Even with A-Spec drop, you will have as much if not more wheel gap than stock......

Those would look good with the Koni/Comptech or Koni/Neuspeed combo.....

cazzy

Asahi...note that LannyM really held my hand so to speak throughout my suspension decision and install. He is a very informed individual to seek advice from! Thanks again Lanny +++He has a lot of pictures of suspension set ups!

Bill Hook

FWIW, I live further south than you, but I assume SE TN gets a LOT of rain also. If so, I'd take a look at Avon's Tech M500. I haven't had it for long, but I'd recommend it as a compromise tire for performance and wet weather ability; sidewall seems a little soft and I haven't bumped up tire pressures yet. I've had the ES100s (twice) and thought they were not enough for the toad stranglers that hit this area. Ecsta SPT also seems to be a good wet weather tire, so NSXtasy says on H-T, perhaps with dry handling equal or better than the Yokos.

Asahi

Ok so lets talk Comptech Springs. 155 vs 160. I spoke to my friend at Comptech that is an operations manager there and he said they changed the TSX spring cause the drop was too subtle. It is indeed the same as the TL but he said there was no difference between the 155 and 160 spring rates.

Does anyone have an opinon on which one to order?

LannyM

The 155 has some advantages over the 160, at least as far as your requirements go.

The drop is around 1.25" or so, as opposed to the 1.6"/1.4" drop of the 160. Also, you can always drop another 1/2" with the Koni's. Since you said you didn't want too lowered a look, this would be a nice range for you.

Second, you can see from pics of both of these springs that the 155 is almost entirely linear, whereas the 160 is very progressively wound. The linear spring will work better with the Koni valving, according to the tech I spoke to at Koni.

curik_euro

Hey Neuspeeders, what settings are u guys using on the front and rear? Can you guys recommend the best setting for compliant normal driving? My setup is koni+pro kits. I dont drive much like some people so I am not an expert. Thanks!

rmpage

I'm on Neuspeed Sport Springs with Neuspeed Konis. Front perch is set in the middle. Rear perches are dropped an additional 0.25". Even so, the car is visibly forward-biased. Since taking this picture I raised the front perches 1/4", which gives me an even 1.5 finger gap all around.




Note that the large amount of body rake is due in most part to the Neuspeed sport springs. While advertised as a 1.5"F/1.0"R drop, everybody has had more like 1.9F/1.4R from them. JTso went from these to the Eibach Sportline and said the drop was identical.

AlterZgo

Here's my car w/ Comptech 110-155 springs+Neuspeed Konis. The spring perch is set 1 notch below the middle at all 4 corners. I can go another 1/4" lower or I can raise it 3/4" from this height.

virtualbong

Car looks awesome AlterZgo!

Oh, I have mine set at 1 spring perch lower in the rear. The front is neutral setting.

jmathew34

have you guys with the neuspeed koni shocks had any issues with rattling or other issues???

ILoveMyHonda

Ok, let me get this straight.....how many perch setting are there on the Koni's.......and do these settings allow for more lowering of a vehicle equipped with these? I have always had Tokicos on all my past cars so this stuff is new to me.

LannyM

Koni yellows have 2 grooves front, and three rear. The front is stock height or 1/2" down. The rear is stock height, or 1/2" up or 1/2" down.

The Neuspeed Koni has 5 grooves front and rear in 1/4" increments, so there's more settings, but ultimately you can still only go 1/2" down. Even with the fairly mild Comptech 110-155 drop springs, the overall lowering range is very good, much lower than A-Spec with close to factory ride quality.

The other nice thing about the Neuspeed version is that is has a 20mm shorter strut rod, which means more suspension travel before you would bottom the strut......

jmathew34

i believe there are 5 perch settings with the Neuspeed Koni Shocks and 3 perch settings with the Koni Shocks...basically Neuspeed has more...

ILoveMyHonda

Thanks LannyM....good info......guess the Nuespeed versions would be better....so if i have a lowering of:

1.14 F and 0.75 R i can increase it to

1.64 F and 1.25 R ?

Also, does the shorted rod stroke of the neuspeed koni's mean the dampaneing is stiffer?

madmanmax3000

is AlterZgo AT or MT?

LannyM

Correct, and a 1.64/1.25 drop looks very good, without worrying about rubbing/scraping.


As far as the damping, i didn't ask the Koni tech that question, but my guess is that they wouldn't change it.

To be sure, call Koni tech. They're happy to share info on their products.....

AlterZgo

AT. If you have an MT, you would likely need to drop the front another notch to have the same lowering as on my car.

rmpage

I've said it before and I'll say it again: AZ's car is the absolute sickest TSX I've seen. God I love those wheels.

AlterZgo

Aww shucks. Thanks!

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Yeah, It's rare to see a lowered red TSX with nice rims. I've never seen one in my area.

amadeus303

iTrader: (2)

Absolutely agree on that one... seen AZ's car many times on the "other" site, but never threw in my

The drop looks perfect, and the rims are sweet. Kudos AZ!

LannyM

Modded TSXs are really rare in my area; I've never seen any TSX with rims or lowered. I did see a couple with OEM kit..........

Asahi

The Koni's are on the dining room table. The Comptech Springs (110-155 as recommended) are on the UPS truck somewhere between here and CA. My last question before I install. . . .

The folks using the Koni/Comptech combo, I have yet to get a camber kit (Slipped my mind). Then I was reading about A-spec setups and most aren't using them. Does this setup when done on the 3rd perch as mentioned really not warrant a camber kit? I do't mind negative camber in the neighborhood of -2 degree as it isn't as big a tire wear issue as most make it out to be but I have no frame of reference for what lowering a TSX does to camber.

As far as Camber Kits go, which is the preferred setup, the SPC/Comptech or the Ingalls design?

Ok, so I lied another question. For all of this trouble I have gone to so far, should I have just gotten the A-spec? I don't need a dropped look but want the 4x4 appearance gone. I have spent $795 vs just $600 for the A-spec (Which includes additional assembly pieces) and the only thing I think will be nice over the A-spec is the rebound adjustment.

LannyM

For the rear, 110-155 on the middle perch should put you in the neighborhood of the A-Spec drop. From my experience, you should be right around -2 degrees camber, which is not too excessive.

Had you gone with A-Spec, you would have found that the front is still somewhat lifted compared to the rear, so you'll have a much more even drop with this setup.

We've batted the Ingalls vs. SPC camber kit around several times. The Ingalls is maybe a little easier to put on. It's gonna boil down to personal opinion, but I went Ingalls.

LannyM

For the rear, 110-155 on the middle perch should put you in the neighborhood of the A-Spec drop. From my experience, you should be right around -2 degrees camber, which is not too excessive.

Had you gone with A-Spec, you would have found that the front is still somewhat lifted compared to the rear, so you'll have a much more even drop with this setup.

We've batted the Ingalls vs. SPC camber kit around several times. The Ingalls is maybe a little easier to put on. It's gonna boil down to personal opinion, but I went with the Ingalls kit.