My koni shocks and spring install on a '06 tsx
I had time to take out the OEM springs and struts this weekend, but got tired after installing the front shocks and lowering springs. I planned to install the rear parts too, but then something else happened that night.
Parts: -- Koni yellow shocks -- Tein lowering Springs i forgot to take pictures earlier of how to take out the bottom part of the strut/spring, but i'll explain how to put it back in Socket wrench sizes used: 12MM 14MM 17MM 3/4 for the spring compressor i pulled out the strut tower out first https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16551 I took off the 5 nuts on top, under the hood https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16552 there was other stuff to unbolt and take off, but i forgot to take those pictures... onto the spring compressor! https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16553 i compressed the spring with the tools i rented from autozone. They are those two metal clamps squeezing the spring on both sides https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16554 after compressing the spring, i loosened out the nut in the center. It was pretty hard to take it off, you have use a hex key and a wrench and budge it https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16555 or if you have some good tools, i used a socket wrench! https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16556 now it's loose, time to pull that nut off https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16557 nut is off the tower https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16558 I pulled the ring off that sat under the nut https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16559 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16560 pulled off the top hat https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16561 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16562 separated the compressed spring from the strut https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16563 there's a black washer that sits right on top the boot cover https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16564 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16565 pulled off the black washer, took a couple of pics of the same stuff because my phone camera is kind of blurry https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16566 I pulled off the boot cover and I see the bus stop https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16567 there's a washer sitting right above the the bus stop https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16568 removed the washer https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16569 the strut is now naked! https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16570 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16571 going back to the top mount, i removed that rubber piece that sits in the middle https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16572 then i took off the rubber parts from the cylinder https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16573 these are the parts that are used for the konis https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16574 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16575 i put that rubber part onto the new cylinder https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16576 here is the koni shock i'm going to use https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16577 slippin on the bunk stop was kind hard https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16578 I had to force it a bit to fit through that little welded piece https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16579 clipped in the white plastic washer right above the bunk stop https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16580 slipped in the two washers, the biggest washer sits on bottom closer to the bunk stop https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16581 picture with the cut boot, ready for the spring and top mount https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16582 the spring and top mount is on https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16583 two nuts were provided and i didn't tighten all the way in the picture, but it's ready to be installed back onto the car now https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16584 these are the bolts and nuts that are going to be put back on for the koni shock. I have already inserted the shock back in the car. https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16585 this is the other side of that nut with the picture right above this one https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16586 this bolt holds in the shock. It breaks pretty easily... i'd be gentle with it. https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16587 this is how it looks under the hood with the koni shock installed. I can adjust it to how firm or soft the ride is https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16588 picture of the tein springs https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16589 stock struts were kept on the side Photos before the drop: https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16592 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16591 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16590 photos after the drop: https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16593https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16594 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16595 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16596 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16597 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16598 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16599 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16600 and then later that night, i happened to hit a damn bump/pot hole on the road pretty hard: https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16601 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16602 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16603 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16604 i left the car there over night as the shock shot down the mount. :( I was on the way to a car meet at the Happy Tea house on westheimer... so sad. I didn't even make it to the meet. the next day i towed it home and took a closer look at it: https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16605 looks like it's bagged or air ridehttps://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16606 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16607 https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16608 the bunk stop was up at that same position with the white washer, but i pulled it down https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16609 holy crap.... that piece fell off when i hit the bump. I can't mount it back on the car no more. https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16610 this is the driver side shock with the plate on Now i'm back on the factory suspension again. I wonder if i could get the shock fixed. So much time has been put into this. It takes forever to compress the springs by hand! my back hurts like hell too haha |
Not sure this had anything to do with the failure but the install was a little wrong. The white split washer goes on first under the bump stop. You should have trimmed out the lower nub on the bump stop. I'm not sure why cut the top of the dust boot off but the small washer goes on after the bumpstop then the dust boot then the large washer. I know on my setup the front konis had alot more thread engaged on the front. Like there was to much slack in your setup. The front top bolt needed to be tightened more I think to 22 foot lbs.
I do however feel your pain when it comes to the pain in the ass spring compressor. |
when i did my install, i just enlarge the dust boot cover hole so it'll slide over the koni.
The bump stop, i cut in the middle of the bump stop and reused the smaller portion. The bigger portion was thrown out as it was near impossible to get the bigger portion to slide over the welded portion on the piston of the shock. I even read the instruction on where to cut but they didn't explain it well. |
Wow...nice writeup + pictures. But wow...the plating, falling off is really unbelievable...see what koni can do. Good luck.
Originally Posted by CarbonDetails
(Post 11057029)
Not sure this had anything to do with the failure but the install was a little wrong. The white split washer goes on first under the bump stop. You should have trimmed out the lower nub on the bump stop. I'm not sure why cut the top of the dust boot off but the small washer goes on after the bumpstop then the dust boot then the large washer. I know on my setup the front konis had alot more thread engaged on the front. Like there was to much slack in your setup. The front top bolt needed to be tightened more I think to 22 foot lbs.
I do however feel your pain when it comes to the pain in the ass spring compressor. |
i'm a noob at this as you can tell haha
Thanks nubasaurs for all the help. I'd give you good feedback if this was ebay ahha and i guess i meant bump stop instead of bunk, bus |
contact koni to see if they will help you out.
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wats the rim size, 17 or 18
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i think i might've figured out why you front strut broke, but this is a theory; idk if it's actually like this...
since you didn't install the rears and they were at stock height and spring rates, the fronts had more pressure put on them. which would probably cause the mounting plate to break off. idk, it's a theory. so i guess next time before driving around, make sure you install everything the same day? |
Originally Posted by Nubasaurs
(Post 11066438)
i think i might've figured out why you front strut broke, but this is a theory; idk if it's actually like this...
since you didn't install the rears and they were at stock height and spring rates, the fronts had more pressure put on them. which would probably cause the mounting plate to break off. idk, it's a theory. so i guess next time before driving around, make sure you install everything the same day? |
I contacted koni and the tech said i didn't tighten that bolt enough; the bolt is holding in the strut on the horse shoe. I believe that's the problem because the treading did trim out. That bolt kept turning when i stuck back on the OEM strut... so the weight of the car had pushed that plate off once i hit that bump on the road. Turns out i still can use the shock without the plate. I just gotta pinch the screw tightly. Sooooo.. poor installation i guess.
https://acurazine.com/forums/picture...ictureid=16586 rim size: 18x8.5 +45 offset tires: 235/40 They're aspecs from the TL |
thought TL a-spec are 18x8 45 not 18x8.5???
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i have no idea. i bought them from a fellow az member and he told me he pulled it off his TL.
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Originally Posted by tool001
(Post 11102310)
thought TL a-spec are 18x8 45 not 18x8.5???
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The problem looks to be incorrect install and tightening procedure. The suspension should be preloaded before tightening the bolts.
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Originally Posted by rtea2008
(Post 11057769)
i'm a noob at this as you can tell haha
Thanks nubasaurs for all the help. I'd give you good feedback if this was ebay ahha and i guess i meant bump stop instead of bunk, bus |
yeah.. old ass bump but did you guys have to cut bump stops or you guys simply leave it as is?
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if I recall correctly, I think the installer cut the bump stops.
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the instruction from koni was to cut the bump stop. the boot cover you'll have to enlarge the hole for it to fit.
the OP just didn't install the set up correctly. i have this set up for about 2 years and i take bumps like i normally would with stock suspension and no problem. each shock down at the bottom has a crevice area to where the bolt that holds the shock to the fork can slide through to tighten. and dont be afraid to tighten it hard. use air tools is best. |
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